fat tony said:
The government has clearly forgotten they exist at our sufferance, and they were chosen to represent our wishes. This whole thing of a ruling class makes mockery of democracy, and for 1 person to have the power to remove the freedom and choices of an entire nation is utter nonsense. The hung parliaments in England and Australia have shown the populace had to vote, but wanted neither in power. That's the trouble with Bicameral systems, no legitimate third choice.... Who wants to start the Sensible Party with me?
Well as I understand things, the very nature of the system means that it's not going to change radically/reform it's entire structure through bureaucracy because the people in power or who benefit from the system would pretty much have to agree to step down.
People laugh at the USA and our right to keep and bear arms, but this is the kind of situation it exists to deal with. If the goverment goes that far against the will of the people a civil insurrection is inevitable. If the military winds up backing the goverment (a craps shoot since it's totally made up of volunteers) it might be able to stop a popular revolt, but by the time it's over the country will be a third world hellhole. I mean sure, civilians with Small Arms aren't going to say be able to take out tank visions or supersonic jets, but if you bomb New York City (the harbour of which is a major asset to the US) into rubble to stop a popular revolt, and do the same thing in other major places, what exactly will the goverment wind up in control of? It certainly won't be the most powerful nation in the world, and the authority of the victors will amount to little internationally, because it's not like they are going to command respect from atop a pile of ruins.
I don't think there is enough anti-goverment sentiment in the UK for a popular revolt to begin with to be honest, but to be honest if there ever was I don't think it much matters, and plans like forming a party that will "change everything" are always doomed to fail because an inherantly broken system is still broken no matter who is using it.
In the end it comes down to both whether you hate what is going on enough to actually get up and do something about it, at the risk of your life and freedom, and of course whether or not you have the abillity to actually do anything if you wanted to. It's always the hard part, getting people to stand up and act with you (or to act alone, hoping it's the spark that ignites something), but even getting that far depends on there being some chance of being able to do anything.
I feel sorry for you guys in the UK, really I do. Right now us Americans foolishly sit on our keisters and won't rally for anything really (despite other people around the world seeing us as fanatics), however if we ever did, there is a lot we could actually do. Any one of us could walk into a goverment building with a firearm and cut loose (though it rarely happens, obviously). In the UK, as I said there isn't much you can do except get up hat in hand and humbly request change while the powers that be take that hat defecate in it.
