British Police Create Game For Anti-Rape Campaign

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Wait, what? Is it about getting someone to sleep with you willingly? Is it a game where you snipe rapists? I don't understand.
Maybe you castrate all the rapists.....or something
Stealth game, perhaps?
 

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I think there was a highschool that did something like this, for the girls. And I think there was an elementary school developing a game to teach kids about how to protect themselves from molestation.

I dont know...these games seem to be about as creepy as the acts they attempt to protect people from.
 

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the fact that they have to make a game to raise awareness about rape....i dunno but that kinda says something...
 

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Also sad that this gets about 99% less media attention than when a comic does a JOKE about rape.

Seems comedy about rape offends the Daily Mail readers far more than actual rape, because of course to them, those girls shouldn't be wear heels and short skirts and going out drinking, they should be married and in the kitchen.

what's worse, Jimmy Carr saying 'I'm doing my bit to reduce sexual assaults in my local area, I'm going to stay in this weekend and watch telly', or actual rape?

On another note. I saw the guy in the flyer/game cover/ ad/ whatever,and thought, even if he's innocent, just because of how he looks, I want still to castrate him with a pair of old bricks. What an absolute swaggering bellend. I've only glanced at him for half a second and already know I could spend the rest of my life punching him without getting bored. The girl's not much better, do only girls in short skirts and heels get raped then? (I know it's probably more likely, but if they're pushing the thing about people you know being likely to be the ones who attack you, using two typical clubby fuckknuckles to be your characters won't help.)
 

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I wonder if it'll be as popular as the Rap against Rape music video.

Al I can really see of this game is a screen with two possible options to one question;

Is rape bad?

A) Yes
--> Correct, you win!

B) No
--> The police are on their way.
 

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My local police force as it goes...

And erm, no I don't see how this will help, they need to focus their efforts on demonizing the binge drinking culture if they want to prevent these "ambiguous rapes". I'm not saying anyone deserves to get raped if they are paralytic and stumbling around in a mini-skirt leading drunk horny guys on or anything but the most this campaign will achieve is making it less of a suprise to them...
Binge-drinking IS demonised and so it is taboo and awesome. Smoking, petty crime, carrying a knife yadda yadda yadda. Ignorance and self-focussed behaviour result in these issues. They think only of themselves and never even consider other people.
It is demonised by rational and peace loving adults and the occasional wise youth. I live in the Thames Valley and I can assure you it seems that 85% of young people aged 13-30 see binge drinking as a perfectly normal and acceptable past-time which is the root of the problem. It is not even remotely considered taboo by any of these people... I sometimes wish our society would try and hold itself responsible. Dubai have got it right if you ask me...
Im one of those people. Guess what. We only 'binge drink' when we get the chance because we figure we might as well take the oppurtunities when they present themselves, because most of the time we are prevented by some fairly arbitrary laws which seem to suggest that the government thinks that people magically become more likely to be mature as soon as they are 18. Most of the immature/stupid people I know are not likely to chance for some considerable time. Most of the mature/responsible people I know have been that way pretty much forever.
Drinking is a perfectly normal and acceptable past time. I know people's parents who will happily go and get wankered on occassion. They aren't stupid or ignorant people. They just like having fun.
Also, don't try the 'why can't you have a good time without drink' argument. Its like saying to somebody who enjoys football 'why can't you have a good time without football.' They can. They probably frequently do. But that doesn't mean they aren't going to go to a game if they get invited.

The reality is that most 'young people' will occassionally 'binge' drink. For the majority, binge drinking actually just means 'going to a party/pub etc, getting pleasantly drunk, having a good time and then going home.' True, some people do just drink until they pass out... but if that happens, they aren' really harmind anyone but themselves. Like everything, there is a minority of idiots that typically become aggressive/otherwise out of order when drunk. And they stay in packs, cause a nuisance and get loads of attention from the media who can then cash in on the 'binge drinking epidemic.'

Id introduce some kind of card with 'marks' on it. You cause trouble whilst drunk, you get a black mark. Get one black mark, and a limit is imposed on how much you can buy. Get two, you get a temporary ban on buying drink, and so on. Id also make it mandatory that ALL drinks are paid for with this type of card, and individuals can only have one at a time. Then either remove or drastically lower the age limit. Or introduce a system where as you get older, you are allowed to buy a greater weekly/monthly quota of alcohol. Break people in slowly.
 

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What kind of society do we live in where we have to remind people not to rape?
The kind of society where most men don't realize that a woman saying no means no.
 

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someonehairy-ish said:
Raven said:
manythings said:
Raven said:
My local police force as it goes...

And erm, no I don't see how this will help, they need to focus their efforts on demonizing the binge drinking culture if they want to prevent these "ambiguous rapes". I'm not saying anyone deserves to get raped if they are paralytic and stumbling around in a mini-skirt leading drunk horny guys on or anything but the most this campaign will achieve is making it less of a suprise to them...
Binge-drinking IS demonised and so it is taboo and awesome. Smoking, petty crime, carrying a knife yadda yadda yadda. Ignorance and self-focussed behaviour result in these issues. They think only of themselves and never even consider other people.
It is demonised by rational and peace loving adults and the occasional wise youth. I live in the Thames Valley and I can assure you it seems that 85% of young people aged 13-30 see binge drinking as a perfectly normal and acceptable past-time which is the root of the problem. It is not even remotely considered taboo by any of these people... I sometimes wish our society would try and hold itself responsible. Dubai have got it right if you ask me...
Im one of those people.

Id introduce some kind of card with 'marks' on it. You cause trouble whilst drunk, you get a black mark. Get one black mark, and a limit is imposed on how much you can buy. Get two, you get a temporary ban on buying drink, and so on. Id also make it mandatory that ALL drinks are paid for with this type of card, and individuals can only have one at a time. Then either remove or drastically lower the age limit. Or introduce a system where as you get older, you are allowed to buy a greater weekly/monthly quota of alcohol. Break people in slowly.
Damn, I can't help but think that's a pretty good idea.

We already have 'pay as you go' debit cards, one of those linked to your verified age and ID, and able to be 'marked with demerits', that solves underage drinking, with all the crazy types of ID there are out there, and in the end, only punishes the stupid, violent troublemakers. I know it's a fiddly step, but a photo ID, it's no use if stolen, might actually be useful for other things, and yes, you could lower the age to 15 or 16, but only alowing 2 units a day, so that they could have a glass of wine with dinner if out with family, or could have a single pint when the football was on...so there's not the desperate rush to get smashed into oblivion on your 18th birthday.

I'd suggest making this a whole new thread however, I feel it has enough discussion value to merit it, while not wanting to see this one derailed.

Also, according to Cameron, binge drinking is more than 3 units a night. that's not even 2 pints of beer. I consider binge drinking getting 'can't walk properly' smashed.

someone who has 2 pints 2 or three times a week isn't a problem, they're just a convenient extra number used to back up some dodgy statistics.
 

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Im one of those people. Guess what. We only 'binge drink' when we get the chance because we figure we might as well take the oppurtunities when they present themselves, because most of the time we are prevented by some fairly arbitrary laws which seem to suggest that the government thinks that people magically become more likely to be mature as soon as they are 18. Most of the immature/stupid people I know are not likely to chance for some considerable time. Most of the mature/responsible people I know have been that way pretty much forever.
Drinking is a perfectly normal and acceptable past time. I know people's parents who will happily go and get wankered on occassion. They aren't stupid or ignorant people. They just like having fun.
Also, don't try the 'why can't you have a good time without drink' argument. Its like saying to somebody who enjoys football 'why can't you have a good time without football.' They can. They probably frequently do. But that doesn't mean they aren't going to go to a game if they get invited.

The reality is that most 'young people' will occassionally 'binge' drink. For the majority, binge drinking actually just means 'going to a party/pub etc, getting pleasantly drunk, having a good time and then going home.' True, some people do just drink until they pass out... but if that happens, they aren' really harmind anyone but themselves. Like everything, there is a minority of idiots that typically become aggressive/otherwise out of order when drunk. And they stay in packs, cause a nuisance and get loads of attention from the media who can then cash in on the 'binge drinking epidemic.'

Id introduce some kind of card with 'marks' on it. You cause trouble whilst drunk, you get a black mark. Get one black mark, and a limit is imposed on how much you can buy. Get two, you get a temporary ban on buying drink, and so on. Id also make it mandatory that ALL drinks are paid for with this type of card, and individuals can only have one at a time. Then either remove or drastically lower the age limit. Or introduce a system where as you get older, you are allowed to buy a greater weekly/monthly quota of alcohol. Break people in slowly.
When I say binge drinking, I do mean the extreme cases and not the kind of circumstances that you enjoy a tipple for example. And I'm not criticising anyone's method of having a "good time" each to their own. I personally love a few drinks but dislike being drunk and loathe being around drunken twats getting too rowdy and thinking they're funnier than they really are. My solution? I don't go to clubs at the expense of missing on a little social life.

But I find it remarkable the amount of young people who simply aren't interested in an alternative to spending yet another night in a club and spending obscene amounts of money in the process. To me that's sad and indicative of the times we live in but that's another story.

What I do resent though is having the same unruly, loud and obscene behaviour of the local "fucknuckles"- (Sense of Tumour's awesome phrase^^) passing through my neighbourhood in the early hours of the morning breaking glass, shouting, vandalising swearing, urinating on people's property and leaving a trail of fast food wrappers and other unsightly garbage on my fucking doorstep!

I do feel it is your (not personally) "demographic's" responsibility to reign in on those who drink to the absolute excess and cause an endless nuisance to the locals night after night. There is at least one in every circle of friends who acts in the ways described above and all I'm asking is that you (again, not personally) don't put people like these up on pedastles for "having a good time".

And as for the ones who drink until they pass out, they are a nuisance to anyone who comes into contact with them! From disgruntled bar owners to insensitive doormen to the paramedics who have to deal with their disgraceful inability to control themselves... At this point it's too easy to start talking about the chances of rape in these situations so I won't bother... And for the record, having the police implying that you are more likely to get raped by someone you know is just a horrendously sad reflection on the kind of culture generated by "binge drinkers" and "clubby fuckknuckles"...

Still I'm glad you are of the mindset to suggest positive ways of dealing with the problem, however I think it would solve itself if that 13-30 group of people actually realising it is a problem.
 

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SenseOfTumour said:
someonehairy-ish said:
Raven said:
manythings said:
Raven said:
My local police force as it goes...

And erm, no I don't see how this will help, they need to focus their efforts on demonizing the binge drinking culture if they want to prevent these "ambiguous rapes". I'm not saying anyone deserves to get raped if they are paralytic and stumbling around in a mini-skirt leading drunk horny guys on or anything but the most this campaign will achieve is making it less of a suprise to them...
Binge-drinking IS demonised and so it is taboo and awesome. Smoking, petty crime, carrying a knife yadda yadda yadda. Ignorance and self-focussed behaviour result in these issues. They think only of themselves and never even consider other people.
It is demonised by rational and peace loving adults and the occasional wise youth. I live in the Thames Valley and I can assure you it seems that 85% of young people aged 13-30 see binge drinking as a perfectly normal and acceptable past-time which is the root of the problem. It is not even remotely considered taboo by any of these people... I sometimes wish our society would try and hold itself responsible. Dubai have got it right if you ask me...
Im one of those people.

Id introduce some kind of card with 'marks' on it. You cause trouble whilst drunk, you get a black mark. Get one black mark, and a limit is imposed on how much you can buy. Get two, you get a temporary ban on buying drink, and so on. Id also make it mandatory that ALL drinks are paid for with this type of card, and individuals can only have one at a time. Then either remove or drastically lower the age limit. Or introduce a system where as you get older, you are allowed to buy a greater weekly/monthly quota of alcohol. Break people in slowly.
Damn, I can't help but think that's a pretty good idea.

We already have 'pay as you go' debit cards, one of those linked to your verified age and ID, and able to be 'marked with demerits', that solves underage drinking, with all the crazy types of ID there are out there, and in the end, only punishes the stupid, violent troublemakers. I know it's a fiddly step, but a photo ID, it's no use if stolen, might actually be useful for other things, and yes, you could lower the age to 15 or 16, but only alowing 2 units a day, so that they could have a glass of wine with dinner if out with family, or could have a single pint when the football was on...so there's not the desperate rush to get smashed into oblivion on your 18th birthday.

I'd suggest making this a whole new thread however, I feel it has enough discussion value to merit it, while not wanting to see this one derailed.

Also, according to Cameron, binge drinking is more than 3 units a night. that's not even 2 pints of beer. I consider binge drinking getting 'can't walk properly' smashed.

someone who has 2 pints 2 or three times a week isn't a problem, they're just a convenient extra number used to back up some dodgy statistics.
You like it? :| Its just an idea I came up with pretty much on the spot. It makes sense though. Do you think I should copy the pertinent points into another thread? Im actually kinda excited, if I came up with a law that solves problems with underage thinking then I'd at least feel like I've achieved something in life xD.
Probably needs some adjustments but meh, Id like to see if the general consesus towards the idea is good and then hand it over to someone who could actually get it noticed.
 

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Can't help but agree, and not just because he likes the abuse I use.

When I was young, (all of this were hills, and we had respect for our elders, yadda yadda yadda) Sure we'd get stupidly hammered, to the point where we were falling over, giggling, and trying to have play fights with each other in the park, pretending we were all Bruce Lee, but we'd do it in a corner of the park away from everyone, and the rare times we were caught underage, the police would either just send us on our way, or more usually, grin, remember what it was like to be growing up, and tell us to be careful and don't cause anyone any trouble,and walk off.

We'd overdo it, but we'd not smash things, or piss in public, or be yelling stupid stuff at 3am. There'd be something built in that still moderated us even at the point where our legs wouldn't obey our brains.

I realise I sound about 70 here, but there's gotta have been some kind of shift in attitudes, I've been threatened with violence and repeatedly had abuse shouted at me for the crime of walking home after midnight before, and I guess I'm lucky to not have been assaulted. That's with me taking the sensible measures of avoiding bars on the way home, and crossing the road to avoid walking past groups of people.

Sorry to the OP, and yes, I'd make a new thread 'posible fix to the drink problem in the UK?' or something, so we don't take over this thread.
 

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Raven said:
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When I say binge drinking, I do mean the extreme cases and not the kind of circumstances that you enjoy a tipple for example.
What I do resent though is having the same unruly, loud and obscene behaviour of the local "fucknuckles"- (Sense of Tumour's awesome phrase^^) passing through my neighbourhood in the early hours of the morning breaking glass, shouting, vandalising swearing, urinating on people's property and leaving a trail of fast food wrappers and other unsightly garbage on my fucking doorstep!

Still I'm glad you are of the mindset to suggest positive ways of dealing with the problem, however I think it would solve itself if that 13-30 group of people actually realising it is a problem.
In that case I agree with you, sorry for perhaps seeming aggressive. The way you came across in your earlier post made it seem more like you were more against drinking in general, at least if 'young people' are involved.
I tend to get like that because I get frustrated with a lot of people just labelling teenagers and young adults with all these negative things. The law can't ever be wrong, can it, its always the young people in the wrong? /sarcasm (this isn't directed at you, i just feel like ranting now xD)
I'd agree that yes, there are a few fucknuckles that do cause problems. But I think the governments attitude of 'well a few young drinkers are a problem so lets just ban EVERYONE under the age of "X" Duuurrrrp' is actually more of a problem, or makes the problems worse.
I'm going to post my suggestion for a system regarding drinking as a seperate thread btw, to see if it attracts any support. Im tired of a system where me and mates would get our drink confiscated and/or get warnings or arrests when we clearly aren't doing anything that bothers anyone, just because officers have to if they'd like to keep there jobs. And then we see some people who are known to be dangerous idiots and will almost certainly cause trouble with a bunch of drinks, but police can do nothing about it because they happen to be 18.
 

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Raven said:
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And as for the ones who drink until they pass out, they are a nuisance to anyone who comes into contact with them! From disgruntled bar owners to insensitive doormen to the paramedics who have to deal with their disgraceful inability to control themselves...
In that case, I was just going on personal experience, in which people who do drink that amount are generally taken care of by the friends they're with. Maybe we're all just good friends in my group though eh? I do see your point though, now that you've mentioned it ^ ^.
You'd also be surprised at how good teenagers are at dealing with friends who've wrecked emselves. They wake up alive and as healthy as the can be after having pickled their livers; probably at home or at a friends house and with only a slight possibility o having dicks drawn on their face in marker pens.
 

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Sorry to the OP, and yes, I'd make a new thread 'posible fix to the drink problem in the UK?' or something, so we don't take over this thread.
I'll make the new thread tomorrow, seeing as most people are asleep now and I should be as well. If you could look for it and post on it etc so it gets some attention that would be great ta xD
 

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In that case, I was just going on personal experience, in which people who do drink that amount are generally taken care of by the friends they're with. Maybe we're all just good friends in my group though eh? I do see your point though, now that you've mentioned it ^ ^.
You'd also be surprised at how good teenagers are at dealing with friends who've wrecked emselves. They wake up alive and as healthy as the can be after having pickled their livers; probably at home or at a friends house and with only a slight possibility o having dicks drawn on their face in marker pens.
I think Facebook causes a lot of my internal rage ya know. I'm 23 but I've gone back to college (huzzar!), so a lot of my new buddies are in that especially vocal 16-25 age group. And so there is a strange kind of personal anguish when I admit that I could describe many of my own friends amongst these groups as douchebag drinkers. There's only so much "OMG had a wikked tyme lst night got compltly fucked, OhMyGaaaawwd I cant w8 to do it all again evry nite" I can take... Can't exactly mute 75% of my FB friends just to cleanse myself of it either...

I'm guessing SenseofTumour is a similar age to me because that sounds just like my past with alcohol. I really wouldnt have a problem if people acted like we used to. Things like self-dignity and respect for others actually existed in the majority of people back then...

Good luck with the thread though, It does actually sound like a damn good idea, see what people think, refine it and take it to your local MP perhaps?
 

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The best way to stop rape is to teach everyone kungfu.

But, if the rapists learn kung fu, that means the rape victims will need BETTER kung fu.

But how do we know who's a rapist, so we know not to teach them super kung fu?

Never thought it'd be so hard to NOT teach rapists kung fu.
 

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ive found it, its basically a port from a french game. enjoy!!

http://www.itsnotbadatall.com/games_content/action/butt-hunter.html
 

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I know I'll be with a female friend of mine one day in a dark deserted alley way and thank myself that I played that Facebook rape game.
 

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I know how you feel about the facebook statuses. Perhaps it is a slight blessing in disguise that because me and my friends arent yet allowed to drink, I don't get very many of em...
I'll make the thread tomorrow and see if it gets any support. Also, I live in the Thames Valley area as well, so My Local MP may well be yours too xD.

Heres what I'm thinking of posting as the thread:
Here is an idea for a solution I came up with yesterday to the teen/young adult drinking problem in the UK. If it works, it could be implemented elsewhere, too:

I'd introduce some kind of card with 'marks' on it. It would be like a credit/debit card (whichever is more appropriate) with a built in photo-ID. It is used specifically to buy drinks and nothing else. You cause trouble whilst drunk, you get a black mark. Id also make it mandatory that ALL drinks are paid for with this type of card, and individuals can only have one at a time.

Get one black mark, and a limit is imposed on how much you can buy for a fortnight.

Get two, you get a two week ban on buying drink, plus a fortnight limit. (This is in addition to the first mark, so if you get both of them in rapid succession, you're waiting a month and a half...)

Get three and you get a longer ban, etc. Possibly a large number of marks would result in a permanent ban, although the ban-ee would always have the option of requesting to get it repealed.

Black marks would automatically disappear after a while. (Remember that all of this is electronic, I'm not talking about disappearing ink or something.) If you get a mark, the marks already on the card 'reset' so you have to wait for them to go again.

Once the cards are in place, I'd then drastically lower the age limit to around 15 or perhaps even younger. Personally, I drank in moderation with friends at 13 and never ran into trouble. Or, introduce a system where as you get older, you are allowed to buy a greater weekly/monthly quota of alcohol, to break people in slowly. However, anyone can still be limited or banned if they are irresponsible, regardless of age.

Obviously, the system would have problems of its own and cost money to implement, but I like to think it could work! The only real cost would be getting people to be aware of the new system and running the technological gizmos that keep the system working. Considering the extra money that would come into the system from teenagers and young adults, it would probably balance out.
If you have suggestions or support the idea, please say so xD