British Soldier: Claiming Games Cause Violence Is "Nonsense"

[cdstephens]

British Soldier: Claiming Games Cause Violence Is "Nonsense"

...unless it's a farm.

Hrrmmm...While I appreciate the words Mr. McNabb, your own particular brand of media does "appear" to be revelling in violence somewhat.

It's like Tiger Woods talking out against sleeping around. We know he knows, but...

Look, if the censors would only allow it I guarantee video games would be focused on sex... just like the entire film industry is.

There's never been sex in a Pixar film. I'm wearing a Gengar hat. Your logic is invalid.

Joking aside, I think video games are already focused on sex appeal enough, considering that the vast majority of women in video games are little more than eyecandy. The game industry probably wouldn't focus more on sex itself though, because most game publishers try to avoid an M rating, like most film companies try to avoid an R rating.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Not that surprising since it's from the guardian. Those guys really should use proof readers before going to prune... I mean print.

The Escapist spelled it with a K, The Guardian used a G. So yeah, as you were saying, proof readers....

There's more than 40 ways to spell his last name alone (my personal favorite is Ghadaffi). Kaddafi is one of them. Focus more on the obvious proofreading mistakes, such as "IRaq" and "Tt's" later in that paragraph.

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

Other then the extremely obvious how the fuck do you not know how to spell Gaddafi I think I have heard this before. Its just another random guy spouting off nonsense about video games.

Kaddafi is an acceptable spelling, given that what the western media knows of his name is translated from Arabic.

No it really isnt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Transliteration_of_his_Arabic_name

Enjoy, Mr/Ms 'I'm right.'

For the record, Andy McNab (not his real name) was an Infantryman in the British Army for eight years and an SAS operative for nine. He was the commander of Patrol Bravo Two Zero in the Gulf War, along with fellow author and former SAS operative Chris Ryan. The patrol ended in McNab being captured by Iraqi forces and Ryan escaping to the Syrian border.

Since then McNab has become a bestselling author.

 

[Woodsey]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Not that surprising since it's from the guardian. Those guys really should use proof readers before going to prune... I mean print.

The Escapist spelled it with a K, The Guardian used a G. So yeah, as you were saying, proof readers....

There's more than 40 ways to spell his last name alone (my personal favorite is Ghadaffi). Kaddafi is one of them. Focus more on the obvious proofreading mistakes, such as "IRaq" and "Tt's" later in that paragraph.

I've seen Ghadaffi once, everywhere else I've seen it written has been Gaddafi. You'd think they'd just settle on a standard translation. Call him Scooby-Doo for all I care, but make it consistent.

 

[fix-the-spade]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Arabic-English translation isn't exact, Gaddafi and Qaddafi are also acceptable translation of the same name, although Gaddafi is the one most comonly written because the pronounciation sounds like a G.

 

[Cyrus Hanley]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

I think you mean "El-Gadhafi".

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[Thyunda]

What? He's not denouncing violence, he's saying games don't cause it.

Writing Bravo Two Zero might do though, which weakens the case considerably.

What?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

What? He's not denouncing violence, he's saying games don't cause it.

Writing Bravo Two Zero might do though, which weakens the case considerably.

What?

Look at gamers; the pasty stay-at-homes that we are: Violence capacity? Little.

Look at the people you know that have bought/read/display Bravo Two Zero: Do they also have a bowie knife, Jane's guide to Firearms, Combat and Survival magazine, books on how to kill people with your thumbs? Do they get into fights a lot?

Like I said, not really helping our case. Imagine J.K.Rowling speaking out against believing in Fairy Tales.

 

[Ironman126]

I wasn't aware Andy McNab was involved in Battlefield 3 at all. Now I'm even more pissed off that Amazon hasn't dispatched my order yet.

As you should be. But the single-player was nothing special. Competent, but bland. Looks really freaking good, though. The multi-player on the other hand... I shall be wasting many hours of my life to that, i fear.

OT: Um... I'm confused?. Why does this guy have credibility enough to say that games don't cause violence? I mean, we all know they don't, but I'm unsure as to why having military, and presumably combat, experience makes you an expert in psychology.

 

[Thyunda]

What? He's not denouncing violence, he's saying games don't cause it.

Writing Bravo Two Zero might do though, which weakens the case considerably.

What?

Look at gamers; the pasty stay-at-homes that we are: Violence capacity? Little.

Look at the people you know that have bought/read/display Bravo Two Zero: Do they also have a bowie knife, Jane's guide to Firearms, Combat and Survival magazine, books on how to kill people with your thumbs? Do they get into fights a lot?

Like I said, not really helping our case. Imagine J.K.Rowling speaking out against believing in Fairy Tales.

People who know how to kill other people with their thumbs don't get into fights a lot. That shit is self-evident.

Also - You know J.K. Rowling doesn't REALLY believe Harry Potter exists, right? She isn't under the impression she's writing a biography. The hell is wrong with you?

 

[llew]

Listen to the man.

He was in the S.A.S.

If you ignore him, he will kill you with a chocolate lime!

No he wouldn't..... he would do it with a milk bottle top, a cold teabag and a guinea pig brush.

And a partridge in a pear tree.

Everything is a lethal weapon.

including his dick, god rest my mother's soul :'(

 

[Rawne1980]

Not quite as high profile as the SAS but i'm an ex Para and i've been saying that for years.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Listen to the man.

He was in the S.A.S.

If you ignore him, he will kill you with a chocolate lime!

No he wouldn't..... he would do it with a milk bottle top, a cold teabag and a guinea pig brush.

And a partridge in a pear tree.

Everything is a lethal weapon.

including his dick, god rest my mother's soul :'(

The lethality is so lethal, that even the offspring of the woman will feel it.

I'm surprised you're still alive.

 

[Ghostkai]

I can't help feeling his words would carry more weight if he didn't work on BF3.

Not that I disagree with him, I think he makes a very solid case.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Not that surprising since it's from the guardian. Those guys really should use proof readers before going to prune... I mean print.

The Escapist spelled it with a K, The Guardian used a G. So yeah, as you were saying, proof readers....

There's more than 40 ways to spell his last name alone (my personal favorite is Ghadaffi). Kaddafi is one of them. Focus more on the obvious proofreading mistakes, such as "IRaq" and "Tt's" later in that paragraph.

I've seen Ghadaffi once, everywhere else I've seen it written has been Gaddafi. You'd think they'd just settle on a standard translation. Call him Scooby-Doo for all I care, but make it consistent.

Consistency would be easier if you were translating from a romantic or even Cyrillic language, but some sounds and phonetic elements don't translate well between languages.

For example, r-based vowels in the Japanese language actually are a cross between R and L, but there's no romanized equivalent to the sound. The "g/k/gh' of Ghaddafi's name likely a phonic element that, when spoken, is a "flemy h" similar to the first vowel of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Hanukkah."

 

[Mr.Petey]

What? He's not denouncing violence, he's saying games don't cause it.

Writing Bravo Two Zero might do though, which weakens the case considerably.

What?

Look at gamers; the pasty stay-at-homes that we are: Violence capacity? Little.

Look at the people you know that have bought/read/display Bravo Two Zero: Do they also have a bowie knife, Jane's guide to Firearms, Combat and Survival magazine, books on how to kill people with your thumbs? Do they get into fights a lot?

Like I said, not really helping our case. Imagine J.K.Rowling speaking out against believing in Fairy Tales.

I own a few (double figure amount) of Chris Ryan novels and I'm a pleasant, down-to-earth guy. Heck I don't even swear all that much and find swearing "just cuz" is incredibly juvenile. Just checking if you really are serious with the incredibly narrow minded stereotype there guv ^_-

OT however I never believe that any form of violent media is a cause of violent behaviour. With some immersive titles, I personally feel it can relax the mind and body.
For instance, Joe Bloggs comes home after a teeth-nashing day of work and puts on COD, Ace Combat or World of Warcraft. He can have fun, blowing up or killing that monster/character/idiot online and getting that little bit of endorphine in return for doing so.

Same goes with books and films! The only time when a video game has been linked back to acts of crime is when the individual is in a severe state of mental illness, where the line between reality and games isn't so much blurred as it is non-existent.

Keep up the good works of fiction Andy. Stick it to all the Jack Thompsons of the world!

 

[Woodsey]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Not that surprising since it's from the guardian. Those guys really should use proof readers before going to prune... I mean print.

The Escapist spelled it with a K, The Guardian used a G. So yeah, as you were saying, proof readers....

There's more than 40 ways to spell his last name alone (my personal favorite is Ghadaffi). Kaddafi is one of them. Focus more on the obvious proofreading mistakes, such as "IRaq" and "Tt's" later in that paragraph.

I've seen Ghadaffi once, everywhere else I've seen it written has been Gaddafi. You'd think they'd just settle on a standard translation. Call him Scooby-Doo for all I care, but make it consistent.

Consistency would be easier if you were translating from a romantic or even Cyrillic language, but some sounds and phonetic elements don't translate well between languages.

For example, r-based vowels in the Japanese language actually are a cross between R and L, but there's no romanized equivalent to the sound. The "g/k/gh' of Ghaddafi's name likely a phonic element that, when spoken, is a "flemy h" similar to the first vowel of the Hebrew pronunciation of "Hanukkah."

I highly doubt every individual news outlet has translated his name for themselves from Arabic. I'm saying that once an overwhelmingly popular translation rears its head, stick to that.

What? He's not denouncing violence, he's saying games don't cause it.

Writing Bravo Two Zero might do though, which weakens the case considerably.

What?

Look at gamers; the pasty stay-at-homes that we are: Violence capacity? Little.

Look at the people you know that have bought/read/display Bravo Two Zero: Do they also have a bowie knife, Jane's guide to Firearms, Combat and Survival magazine, books on how to kill people with your thumbs? Do they get into fights a lot?

Like I said, not really helping our case. Imagine J.K.Rowling speaking out against believing in Fairy Tales.

So because Rowling writes fantasy novels, she can't speak out against not believing in fantasy things?

I guess because I ate a chocolate bar last week, I can't tell people about how to watch their weight.

Your generalisations are also stupid. Plenty of people on this website own knives and guns, whilst plenty have no interest in them but enjoy violent films, games and books.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Just checking if you really are serious with the incredibly narrow minded stereotype there guv ^_-

Nah, not all gamers are pasty.

From what I'm seeing, the one thing that really drives gamers to commit acts of violence is bad spelling thogh.

 

[sizzle949]

I mean, unless the SAS scooped him up because they were watching him re-enact Mortal Kombat on his little brother...which I doubt ever happened.

Maybe not, but you know if they saw him shooting ice or a kunai out of his hand then they would scoop him up in a second.