British Soldier: Claiming Games Cause Violence Is "Nonsense"

[The_root_of_all_evil]

How else would we get young men to throw their lives away helping to overthrow radical dictators?

You mean "The people we were okay with until last year?"

Of course not, we were always at war with Eurasia.

 

[duchaked]

not that the opponents to this argument will listen..

 

[Phas]

Soldiers only get taught what they are needed to be taught, nothing more.

Obviously soldiers can't learn anything before becoming one or after they've retired or even while they're stationed home for whatever reason.

 

[Something Amyss]

How else would we get young men to throw their lives away helping to overthrow radical dictators?

You mean "The people we were okay with until last year?"

Of course not, we were always at war with Eurasia.

Oh God, I think I love you right now.

He's famous, so what, it just makes it that much easier for him to be heard, when in fact, he's just restating what people have been saying it for a long time now.

That's kind of the thing, though. People will listen solely because of "celebrity" status, earned or otherwise.

More people hear them. More people take stock in them, because they get more exposure.

 

[Ushiromiya Battler]

How else would we get young men to throw their lives away helping to overthrow radical dictators?

You mean "The people we were okay with until last year?"

Of course not, we were always at war with Eurasia.

Oh God, I love you so fucking much right now : 3

EDIT: Ninja'd on my love, goddamnit Ninjas!

OT: Maybe people will finally listen and maybe dig up that report from that university in Texas that proved that violent games have pushed the gate crime rates down. (No, I'm not digging that report up)

 

[mrdude2010]

"With the defeat of Kaddafi"

Uh... Gaddafi, you mean?

OT: Well, duh. Always nice to have someone say it though.

Gaddafy and Kaddafi are both valid interpretations of the arabic script rendered in latin characters. After he was killed, Fox News has been calling Osama "Usama."

 

[llew]

Listen to the man.

He was in the S.A.S.

If you ignore him, he will kill you with a chocolate lime!

No he wouldn't..... he would do it with a milk bottle top, a cold teabag and a guinea pig brush.

And a partridge in a pear tree.

Everything is a lethal weapon.

including his dick, god rest my mother's soul :'(

The lethality is so lethal, that even the offspring of the woman will feel it.

I'm surprised you're still alive.

luckily for me she was wearing a chastity belt, but it was destroyed upon entry and took most of the impact so i only had a mild concussion

 

[Terrik]

Other then the extremely obvious how the fuck do you not know how to spell Gaddafi I think I have heard this before. Its just another random guy spouting off nonsense about video games.

Andy McNab, "another random guy"? Who the fuck are you anyway.

 

[LorienvArden]

As you said, Andy knows how to feel if he wants to hurt someone and since Andy knows that feeling, he also knows the feelings he gets from playing video games, reading books, watching television, and so on.

Sooooo, since Andy knows the difference on the effects of real violence and media violence on the brain since Andy has most likely experienced both, Andy is therefore more of an expert in that field than anyone else who would want to throw in their two cents.

Andy McNab Is a trained professional who had years of rigid training and experience. He underwent a psychological screening before joining with the SAS. If he wasn't a well balanced individual with a firm set of morals and an iron grip on his psyche he wouldn't be on the SAS.

In short, he is about as different from your average gamers as you can get.
With the rare exception of the literate adult, most gamers are young adults and teens that have about as much comon sense as your average chimpanse, the patience of a toddler and no mental balance to speak of.

While a member of the SAS is certainly an expert on military operations, tactics and interogation methods , social studies aren't necessarily his forté - so I'ld rather take a quantitative study that shows that there is absolutly no correlation between violent games and criminal behavior then the word of a veteran.

 

[Treblaine]

I think video games are already focused on sex appeal enough, considering that the vast majority of women in video games are little more than eyecandy. The game industry probably wouldn't focus more on sex itself though, because most game publishers try to avoid an M rating, like most film companies try to avoid an R rating.

Avoid an M-rating?

John Carmack has done on the record (Quake-Con Carmack keynote Q&A session 2011) saying that the industry considered t-rated shooters unmarketable, not only for how much the violence has to be toned down but how T-rating just has a bad reputation.

Look at the likes of Halo, COD, Resistance, Gears of War. All M-rated, all the highest selling games of this generation.

It isn't also known as "M-for-money" for nothing!

What publishers avoid is an AO (Adult's Only) rating which though only 1 year older recommendation puts it in the same category as hardcore pornography, not only do the major retailers refuse to stock these games but Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft refuse to licence games with such a rating. It is death. The only games to get such ratings as imported sex games for PC poorly translated (if translated at all) from Japanese or Russian.

(PS: if sexy females in games were "no more than eye candy" then they would never be playable, only viewable. Point is games make them sexy WITHOUT compromise. Traditionally the female character in the Resident Evil series has been the more capable one to play as.)

 

[Inkidu]

The question is not whether or not humans are merely shaved apes with a capacity for reason and the ability to swing a femur around. The question is impulse control, and if games are actually helping people manage the violent tendencies of their back-brained monkeys I'm all for it.

I think McNab is right on the money really. It's always there, it's how you deal with it.

Off Topic:

Whenever I go to reply to a topic of choice sometimes my captcha won't load properly or something. I get the "Chaos? What is this? Etc." Message beside it, (technically down in the latest content, most popular, and most commented section)but the captcha never loads. It's hard to enter in nonsensical gibberish when I don't get it.

Things I've tried:

Reloading the page. Doesn't work.
Clearing my cache, cookies, browsing history, and other kinds of clean up. Doesn't work.
I don't know how to get it to load. I'm at a loss.

Also, I'm aware this might be the wrong place, but I looked forever for a bug or help forum and didn't see it.

Sorry I had to do this, but I can't actually create a new topic without entering a captcha.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

Clegane]

With the defeat of Kaddafi in Libya and the U.S.

So it's Kadaffi now? I've seen it spelt Qadaffi and Qudaffi and Guidaffi but never Kadaffi.

It's Gadaffi, I don't know where the confusion comes from

Cadaffi

Xadaffi

6adaffi

lolz

 

[LorisBoi]

Not quite as high profile as the SAS but i'm an ex Para and i've been saying that for years.

Not quite as high profile but equally deserving of respect.
I take my hat off to you, sir.

Utrinque Paratus

 

[BrotherRool]

What? We're so desperate for credibility after numerous experiments with results that disagree with what we like to think, that some dude saying something counts for anything? What about the SAS training dude who said that videogames desensitise people who we discounted because he's just a dude with an opinion? Does that still not apply?

Lets not be close-minded. Lets get factual, not fox news.