CA announces Napoleon: Total War

[Pimppeter2]

Sounds fun. They can put me down as a buyer

 

[Fraeir]

Sounds more like a expansion for Empire.. However, as with Empire, I prolly won't look at it. I don't really enjoy the Imperial age in history, and I find battle on a huge scale only awesome for the time where they were fought mostly by close combat/archery means.. which should make it obvious I never bother with gunpowder units in Medieval II.

Watching two armies thundering mindlessly together in a bloody impact is.. far more enjoyable than watching two armies of people in impractical circus costumes firing in turns at one another. : |

That's exactly how I feel about Empire. It's just boring. I wish they'd do a remake of Rome with better graphics, more units, and the combat style from Medieval II (where individual units would fight one on one and perform special finishers on one another).

Now that is something I would want to see!

The only thing that caught my attention about Empire was the naval battle inclusion, but.. still, gunpowder.. I hope for the sake of the universe they don't bring the Total War games into the World Wars or later : /

 

[BeastofShadow]

Now that is something I would want to see!

The only thing that caught my attention about Empire was the naval battle inclusion, but.. still, gunpowder.. I hope for the sake of the universe they don't bring the Total War games into the World Wars or later : /

Doing WW1 would be kinda dull and WW2 would have insanly bad press as they would probably have to let you use the Nazis to conquer the world. I could see that ending badly XD

 

[oliveira8]

Now that is something I would want to see!

The only thing that caught my attention about Empire was the naval battle inclusion, but.. still, gunpowder.. I hope for the sake of the universe they don't bring the Total War games into the World Wars or later : /

Doing WW1 would be kinda dull and WW2 would have insanly bad press as they would probably have to let you use the Nazis to conquer the world. I could see that ending badly XD

CA after this all is going back to.....

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....THE FUTURE!!!

 

[Eternal_24]

Sounds more like a expansion for Empire.. However, as with Empire, I prolly won't look at it. I don't really enjoy the Imperial age in history, and I find battle on a huge scale only awesome for the time where they were fought mostly by close combat/archery means.. which should make it obvious I never bother with gunpowder units in Medieval II.

Watching two armies thundering mindlessly together in a bloody impact is.. far more enjoyable than watching two armies of people in impractical circus costumes firing in turns at one another. : |

That's exactly how I feel about Empire. It's just boring. I wish they'd do a remake of Rome with better graphics, more units, and the combat style from Medieval II (where individual units would fight one on one and perform special finishers on one another).

Now that is something I would want to see!

The only thing that caught my attention about Empire was the naval battle inclusion, but.. still, gunpowder.. I hope for the sake of the universe they don't bring the Total War games into the World Wars or later : /

Yeah, the naval battles sold the game to me really. After having to automatically resolve every naval conflict in the other games I thought being able to actually take part in them for once would be great... the naval battes aren't actually that bad but there is room for improvement and they in no way make up for rest of the game's flaws.

If they keep advancing in history up to WW1/WW2 I don't think I'm going to bother even considering buying the game... it just wouldn't be the same game anymore. They're going down the same route as the Prince of Persia series; Empire is basically the Total War equivalent of Prince of Persia 4.

Another thing I hate is how they changed the entire campain game mechanic in Empire, the old system was so simple yet effective and they went and made it into some sort of catacomb that was impossible to workout.

 

[CorvinBlack]

Hm, sounds interesting. The Napoleonic Wars were the hugest conflicts in the World before the World Wars, with plenty of battles, new tactics and modern strategies and campaignings. It is historically different from the Imperial age of Empire, so it is ok to be a different, if similar standalone game. For all of you who prefer medieval ages, guys (and girls) why don't you play then Medieval and Medieval II? Let us big boys have our guns and cannons. Nobody forces you to play Empire or Napoleon. There are already games featuring Medieval and Ancient times, so why make a new one?

Also, I hope the next one will be WWI - it would be awsome to kick the ass of Austro-Hungary with Serbia, fight the British as German Colonial Askaris in Tanzania and rush the continent with mother Russia. YAY

 

[spuddyt]

Did they ever add in multiplayer campaigns to empire..?

 

[oliveira8]

Hm, sounds interesting. The Napoleonic Wars were the hugest conflicts in the World before the World Wars, with plenty of battles, new tactics and modern strategies and campaignings. It is historically different from the Imperial age of Empire, so it is ok to be a different, if similar standalone game. For all of you who prefer medieval ages, guys (and girls) why don't you play then Medieval and Medieval II? Let us big boys have our guns and cannons. Nobody forces you to play Empire or Napoleon. There are already games featuring Medieval and Ancient times, so why make a new one?

Also, I hope the next one will be WWI - it would be awsome to kick the ass of Austro-Hungary with Serbia, fight the British as German Colonial Askaris in Tanzania and rush the continent with mother Russia. YAY

From the preview of IGN:

Infantry, cavalry and ships will all be unique to the instalment and altogether there will be a total of 322 new units to command. On the subject of hard stats, up to a maximum of 10,000 men will appear on screen at one time, depending on the settings and PC specs, although this time round Creative Assembly will be adding more variety in the way the men look, with the aim being to eliminate the 'clone army' problem. Indeed, the game will mix and match different body parts to make soldiers look individual and unique, with 64 different faces on offer even on the very lowest settings.

Be warned though, this time round attrition is going to play a bigger part and getting supplies to your men in far away posts is going to be tougher. Now, if your men are marching through difficult terrain, or are camped out somewhere with poor weather conditions, they will be suffering damage even when they're not fighting, meaning planning your routes and capture points carefully will be far more important.


You can read the rest of preview here [http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1014877p1.html]

 

[oliveira8]

Did they ever add in multiplayer campaigns to empire..?

According to CA, the Multiplayer BETA is almost ready to be tested by the public. My guess is that it's going to be ready by christmas.

 

[Sephiroth_deus]

Now that is something I would want to see!

The only thing that caught my attention about Empire was the naval battle inclusion, but.. still, gunpowder.. I hope for the sake of the universe they don't bring the Total War games into the World Wars or later : /

Doing WW1 would be kinda dull and WW2 would have insanly bad press as they would probably have to let you use the Nazis to conquer the world. I could see that ending badly XD

Not necessarily. You had the ability to play as the Germans in Axis and Allies and that didn't seem to bother people(at least not to my knowledge). In fact I knew some guys who were obsessed with the Germans.

 

[BeastofShadow]

Not necessarily. You had the ability to play as the Germans in Axis and Allies and that didn't seem to bother people(at least not to my knowledge). In fact I knew some guys who were obsessed with the Germans.

That may be true but think about it. They tend to have you as your factions leader. So you would ineffect play as Hitler. That I could see people having problems with. That and Stalin. The likes of what is it? Fox News in the states if they got wiff of it the petitions might start coming out.

Personally I think they should get a medal if they let you play as Hitler. Just for sheer ballzy ness.

 

[Fraeir]

Doing WW1 would be kinda dull and WW2 would have insanly bad press as they would probably have to let you use the Nazis to conquer the world. I could see that ending badly XD

WW1 is a boring waste of lives in a successive series of shelling and trench warfare, and, well... you already can conquer the world as Nazi Germany in Hearts of Iron. : |
Germany is the most played nation in that series, and you can play as virtually all countries of the 1939-1945 period in there.

..For all of you who prefer medieval ages, guys (and girls) why don't you play then Medieval and Medieval II? Let us big boys have our guns and cannons...

..I hope the next one will be WWI.. YAY

I never said I didn't play the good old ones, besides, that was the last period in history when people where brave (or foolhardy?) enough to meet each other face to face on a bloody field, before gunpowder was introduced on a large scale and everyone switched to pulling a trigger and praying they're just a liiittle better at aiming than the other guy is..

And stop wishing for the downfall of the Total War series! >8U *Slaps you with a stinky fish*

 

[Danny Ocean]

So how long till Empire: Modern Warfare?

 

[SimuLord]

Not necessarily. You had the ability to play as the Germans in Axis and Allies and that didn't seem to bother people(at least not to my knowledge). In fact I knew some guys who were obsessed with the Germans.

That may be true but think about it. They tend to have you as your factions leader. So you would ineffect play as Hitler. That I could see people having problems with. That and Stalin. The likes of what is it? Fox News in the states if they got wiff of it the petitions might start coming out.

Personally I think they should get a medal if they let you play as Hitler. Just for sheer ballzy ness.

You play as Hitler (or Stalin, or Agustin Justo of Argentina, or anyone else you'd care to name) in the Hearts of Iron series, and it's glorious.

Napoleon: Total War sure sounds like an excuse to jack up the price of an Empire expansion by calling it "a whole new game". Empire's good (not transcendent in its greatness like Rome was, but still very enjoyable), but I wish CA would hire an AI programmer with a brain. The AI in Empire is so bad, so utterly putrid, that it mars what is otherwise a great game.

(ETW is still the clubhouse leader for Game of the Year on my scorecard, but honestly that's not saying much. The last time a pantheon-level game came out, I gave it my 2006 Game of the Year award---and its sequel, whenever Todd Howard and Pete Hines get around to acknowledging its existence, will probably be the next pantheon game.)

 

[CorvinBlack]

Doing WW1 would be kinda dull and WW2 would have insanly bad press as they would probably have to let you use the Nazis to conquer the world. I could see that ending badly XD

WW1 is a boring waste of lives in a successive series of shelling and trench warfare, and, well... you already can conquer the world as Nazi Germany in Hearts of Iron. : |
Germany is the most played nation in that series, and you can play as virtually all countries of the 1939-1945 period in there.

..For all of you who prefer medieval ages, guys (and girls) why don't you play then Medieval and Medieval II? Let us big boys have our guns and cannons...

..I hope the next one will be WWI.. YAY

I never said I didn't play the good old ones, besides, that was the last period in history when people where brave (or foolhardy?) enough to meet each other face to face on a bloody field, before gunpowder was introduced on a large scale and everyone switched to pulling a trigger and praying they're just a liiittle better at aiming than the other guy is..

And stop wishing for the downfall of the Total War series! >8U *Slaps you with a stinky fish*

Have you even read what the other have written? It might shock you, but other people might have another opinion then you. No realy. I hope your monocle is still on its place Sir. The Total War series are progressing, going forward, another time period, another way of waging war, another experience. It is good that they are doing this. Else they would quickly get boring. Try reading some European history - the last people were (not where) brave and foolhardy enough to meet each other face to face in every single battle ever, even today. What is the difference between hiding behind a shield or castle wall and hiding in a trench or behind a brick wall? None. It's easy to say that using firearms and cannons is cowardly, but I doubt that you have ever talked with a soldier or war veteran. It takes serious guts to face another soldier with firearms, much more then a axe wielding berserkeror katana swinging samurai. I sure hope that they will at some point arrive at both WW, maybe even recent conflicts. I would like to experience that, play it, try it. It is easy to select all Knights on your side of the field and mass rush the enemy, but try some real tactics, formations and campaining. Napoleon should, and I hope will, give you that. Not a melee frenzy but a true battle.

As the great Prussian King, Frederick the Great once sad " Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be just a vulgar brawl"

 

[KnowYourOnion]

Is it just me or are the facial animations in that trailer fucking awesome or what?
but on topic this doesn't look that different to Empire so i'll probably stick with Empire.

 

[oliveira8]

Is it just me or are the facial animations in that trailer fucking awesome or what?
but on topic this doesn't look that different to Empire so i'll probably stick with Empire.

It's the same engine and it's based on the 20 years after the end of Empire Total War.(It starts around 1796 and it's going till 1815 when Napoleon was defeated in Waterloo.)

Theres going to be 3 Episodic campaigns like the Road to Independence. One in italy, Egypt and the other in Russia. And theres going to be a Grand Campaign based on the powers during the Napoleonic Wars in Europe, which will last..20 years.(Only Europe.)

Each round is 2 weeks apparantly.

It's not a full blown Total War game like Rome, Medieval 2 or Empire. It's more of Alexander:Total War meets Medieval 2 Kingdoms. I just hope they don't price it full game price.

 

[Fraeir]

Have you even read what the other have written? It might shock you, but other people might have another opinion then you. No realy. I hope your monocle is still on its place Sir. The Total War series are progressing, going forward, another time period, another way of waging war, another experience. It is good that they are doing this. Else they would quickly get boring. Try reading some European history - the last people were (not where) brave and foolhardy enough to meet each other face to face in every single battle ever, even today. What is the difference between hiding behind a shield or castle wall and hiding in a trench or behind a brick wall? None. It's easy to say that using firearms and cannons is cowardly, but I doubt that you have ever talked with a soldier or war veteran. It takes serious guts to face another soldier with firearms, much more then a axe wielding berserkeror katana swinging samurai. I sure hope that they will at some point arrive at both WW, maybe even recent conflicts. I would like to experience that, play it, try it. It is easy to select all Knights on your side of the field and mass rush the enemy, but try some real tactics, formations and campaining. Napoleon should, and I hope will, give you that. Not a melee frenzy but a true battle.

As the great Prussian King, Frederick the Great once sad " Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be just a vulgar brawl"

Of course I've read what others have written, and obviously there are those who love Empire, and those who agree with me. To each their own, as they say. You just so happen to be the only one who got offended by my statement and took it provocatively. ;P
I didn't really expect anyone would, but, then there are those as well.

Sadly I don't have a monocle though, as much as I'd want one. But I do have a fedora.
Also thanks for pointing out my typo, I could point out two of yours, but, I'm sure you were aware of that.

 

[Emphraim]

I really hoped this was a joke when I saw the thread title. Sadly, I was mistaken. After the epic fail that was Empire, I'm going to wait a month and read the official forums to see how many people complain about the game. Even if there aren't any problems, muskets and cannons bore me. Make Rome 2:Total War already!.

 

[CorvinBlack]

Have you even read what the other have written? It might shock you, but other people might have another opinion then you. No realy. I hope your monocle is still on its place Sir. The Total War series are progressing, going forward, another time period, another way of waging war, another experience. It is good that they are doing this. Else they would quickly get boring. Try reading some European history - the last people were (not where) brave and foolhardy enough to meet each other face to face in every single battle ever, even today. What is the difference between hiding behind a shield or castle wall and hiding in a trench or behind a brick wall? None. It's easy to say that using firearms and cannons is cowardly, but I doubt that you have ever talked with a soldier or war veteran. It takes serious guts to face another soldier with firearms, much more then a axe wielding berserkeror katana swinging samurai. I sure hope that they will at some point arrive at both WW, maybe even recent conflicts. I would like to experience that, play it, try it. It is easy to select all Knights on your side of the field and mass rush the enemy, but try some real tactics, formations and campaining. Napoleon should, and I hope will, give you that. Not a melee frenzy but a true battle.

As the great Prussian King, Frederick the Great once sad " Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be just a vulgar brawl"

Of course I've read what others have written, and obviously there are those who love Empire, and those who agree with me. To each their own, as they say. You just so happen to be the only one who got offended by my statement and took it provocatively. ;P
I didn't really expect anyone would, but, then there are those as well.

Sadly I don't have a monocle though, as much as I'd want one. But I do have a fedora.
Also thanks for pointing out my typo, I could point out two of yours, but, I'm sure you were aware of that.

I was just offended by the fish thing. Well, that and people still picking on Empire's time period. As for my typos, well, I'm not a native speaker, neither do I speak it on a daily basis. I agree with you, to each his own. Suum ciuque, as they would say. I never sad swords and arrow are boring, but you shouldn't condemn something before you tried it. And stop hitting people with a fish.