They won't have. The tweets were in response to him posting the patch adjustments for people to see.Roxor said:Increasing reload time by a tenth of a second gets people sending death threats? Seriously? It's such a short period of time, I'm surprised anyone noticed.
More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."RJ 17 said:RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.Zachary Amaranth said:More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."RJ 17 said:RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."
..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?Twenty Ninjas said:In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.
Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!
People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.
That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.RJ 17 said:Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.
Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.Zachary Amaranth said:That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.RJ 17 said:Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how much gets excused by the internet because it's the internet. Apparently, we're all expected to act like sociopathic man-children, so it's okay when we do.Realitycrash said:..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?Twenty Ninjas said:In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.
Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!
People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.
There's no "perhaps." The conversation has never shifted this way, and likely won't. Why?RJ 17 said:Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.
I don't know about US law, but in Australia a death threat is considered unlawful only if there's a reasonable expectation of it being carried out. The developer is being very silly if he perceives an internet message as serious intent, and by that token, I don't even think he does. He seems pretty cool about it, and I don't blame him for tweeting about it. Although I think it's ridiculous that we have an article on it, considering the frequency with which people on the internet make death threats.Thoralata said:You know that nobody actually has the right to make a death threat, right? It's actually a criminal offense to utter death threats, as it violates another's right to a safe and harassment free environment, making the offender's Free Speech void in this case.MeChaNiZ3D said:Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so
Saying you support someone's right to make a death threat is saying you support rights that a person does not have.
Pretty much it. When I was in my early teens I was surrounded by people that only played Call of Duty. Eighteen currently and this is the first time in a while that I've been reminded that people still play entries into this franchise.likalaruku said:The only thing I really know about this game is this meme. Threats from obnoxious children are petty & empty, unless they know where you live & it's within biking distance from their house.
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I think it's perfectly acceptable, and should be acceptable everywhere. Not socially acceptable, but legally acceptable. Rather than banning opinions and views, we should be allowing people with them to show the world what idiots they are and be ridiculed for it. I don't see any double standard because neither I, nor most people who don't particularly mind that people send death threats that have no chance of ever resulting in violence because the people sending them are children, make the laws against other kinds of speech. The main contention, although possibly not applicable in this case, being that people who hold prejudiced views often don't see themselves as prejudiced or think they have good reasons. This will not be fixed by limiting discussion. That said, this is all far above the level of the death threat(s) in question, which are practically jokes by this point. There are plenty of people in media who get death threats all the time. I have gotten about 3 death threats for my involvement in something, however relevant that is. If anyone is seriously seeing these threats and fearing for their lives, they need to get a grip, honestly, and realise how little danger they present.Thoralata said:That's a big warning sign saying "We need to change our behavior!"MeChaNiZ3D said:snip
In the US and Canada (I live in Canada) making death threats is illegal. In Canada there are several forms of speech that are illegal, such as racism, homophobia, sexism, ect. Hell, the Westboro Baptish Church is banned from crossing the border because of that.
And the highlight in bold is exactly what I was talking about. People just wave it off as "Well it's the internet" and that's not okay. It's not okay that the people screaming and shouting shit like this get a free pass to say whatever they please, but those who take a very reasonable and expected issue with it are somehow scoffed at for taking issue with assholes behaving like this.
This kind of double standard cannot last.
That is a contradiction.Thoralata said:Because the mature gamers are content to bury their heads in the sand and give bullshit excuses like "This is the Internet" or "Free Speech hurr durr"erttheking said:*Sigh* how come the most obnoxious immature ones make the most noise?
Instead of taking the route of being louder by shouting "SHUT UP" to these obnoxious asswipes.
So have I. I've been threatened and abused mostly my entire life. I still don't see why I can't get worked up and call for these assholes to be banned from their game. Telling people to 'grow a spine' is unnecessarily inflammatory.Twenty Ninjas said:All I said was that people should grow a spine. I've gotten threatened so many times online and in real life and I've never had any news outlets running after me going BOO HOO over it. Nor do I care enough about random words people throw around when they're acting stupid.Realitycrash said:..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?
The important thing is not whether I "think it's alright" or not. We can sit around getting pent up over other people's opinions all day long and at the end of the day it'll never be more than a pointless exercise. The important question is what we should do about it. And I'm vehemently opposed to doing much other than nothing.