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Sectan

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I've been annoyed by patches and changes to gameplay in my MMOs but I've never been motivated to send out death threats. I'm barely motivated enough to complain about it in trade chat.
 

RJ 17

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RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."
 

The Funslinger

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Roxor said:
Increasing reload time by a tenth of a second gets people sending death threats? Seriously? It's such a short period of time, I'm surprised anyone noticed.
They won't have. The tweets were in response to him posting the patch adjustments for people to see.
 

Something Amyss

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RJ 17 said:
RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."
More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."
 

RJ 17

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Zachary Amaranth said:
RJ 17 said:
RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."
More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.
 

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I really, really, REALLY wish there was a way to force these people to use their gamer-tag or other identification when responding, so that these fucks would get banned on spot.
Honestly, I know the idea of mandatory RealID on forums when it came to World of Warcraft had issues, but I wish something similar could be put in place.
I don't want them to go to jail (even though they are making death-threats), I want their toy taken away from them, and for them to be treated like the spoiled little shits they are.
 

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Twenty Ninjas said:
In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.

Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!

People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.
..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?
 

Something Amyss

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RJ 17 said:
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.
That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.
 

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I... wow. Not only does it make me a little ashamed to call myself a gamer, but a human being, too. I don't want to even be considered the same species as people like that.

I really do hope things like this get taken seriously and people who threaten from behind the 'safety' of a screen get arrested. If I went up to someone in person and said I'd kill them and their family, I'd get arrested. Those people should be.

Not acceptable.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
RJ 17 said:
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.
That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.
Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.
 

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Realitycrash said:
Twenty Ninjas said:
In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.

Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!

People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.
..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how much gets excused by the internet because it's the internet. Apparently, we're all expected to act like sociopathic man-children, so it's okay when we do.
 

Evonisia

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That's just wrong, but the worst part is that there have been worse patches than this one, yet this patch caused death threats.

Considering the fact that lag compensation and the massive amounts of chest high walls kind have nullified reload speeds this is pretty pathetic.
 

Something Amyss

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RJ 17 said:
Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.
There's no "perhaps." The conversation has never shifted this way, and likely won't. Why?

The same reason people would rather ***** about Obama being a Muslim or foreigner. The alternative isn't as fantastic, being at least partially grounded in reality.
 

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Thoralata said:
MeChaNiZ3D said:
Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so
You know that nobody actually has the right to make a death threat, right? It's actually a criminal offense to utter death threats, as it violates another's right to a safe and harassment free environment, making the offender's Free Speech void in this case.

Saying you support someone's right to make a death threat is saying you support rights that a person does not have.
I don't know about US law, but in Australia a death threat is considered unlawful only if there's a reasonable expectation of it being carried out. The developer is being very silly if he perceives an internet message as serious intent, and by that token, I don't even think he does. He seems pretty cool about it, and I don't blame him for tweeting about it. Although I think it's ridiculous that we have an article on it, considering the frequency with which people on the internet make death threats.
 

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The reasonable part of me says to just ignore these pathetic excuses for humans.

The unreasonable part of me says: track, arrest, trial and imprison.
 

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likalaruku said:
The only thing I really know about this game is this meme. Threats from obnoxious children are petty & empty, unless they know where you live & it's within biking distance from their house.

Pretty much it. When I was in my early teens I was surrounded by people that only played Call of Duty. Eighteen currently and this is the first time in a while that I've been reminded that people still play entries into this franchise.
 

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Thoralata said:
MeChaNiZ3D said:
That's a big warning sign saying "We need to change our behavior!"

In the US and Canada (I live in Canada) making death threats is illegal. In Canada there are several forms of speech that are illegal, such as racism, homophobia, sexism, ect. Hell, the Westboro Baptish Church is banned from crossing the border because of that.

And the highlight in bold is exactly what I was talking about. People just wave it off as "Well it's the internet" and that's not okay. It's not okay that the people screaming and shouting shit like this get a free pass to say whatever they please, but those who take a very reasonable and expected issue with it are somehow scoffed at for taking issue with assholes behaving like this.

This kind of double standard cannot last.
I think it's perfectly acceptable, and should be acceptable everywhere. Not socially acceptable, but legally acceptable. Rather than banning opinions and views, we should be allowing people with them to show the world what idiots they are and be ridiculed for it. I don't see any double standard because neither I, nor most people who don't particularly mind that people send death threats that have no chance of ever resulting in violence because the people sending them are children, make the laws against other kinds of speech. The main contention, although possibly not applicable in this case, being that people who hold prejudiced views often don't see themselves as prejudiced or think they have good reasons. This will not be fixed by limiting discussion. That said, this is all far above the level of the death threat(s) in question, which are practically jokes by this point. There are plenty of people in media who get death threats all the time. I have gotten about 3 death threats for my involvement in something, however relevant that is. If anyone is seriously seeing these threats and fearing for their lives, they need to get a grip, honestly, and realise how little danger they present.
 

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Thoralata said:
erttheking said:
*Sigh* how come the most obnoxious immature ones make the most noise?
Because the mature gamers are content to bury their heads in the sand and give bullshit excuses like "This is the Internet" or "Free Speech hurr durr"

Instead of taking the route of being louder by shouting "SHUT UP" to these obnoxious asswipes.
That is a contradiction.

If they are mature, then they wouldn't react by being louder and telling them to shut up, because by doing so they are lowering themselves to the idiots level and therefore wouldn't be mature. Shouting at idiots is not a mature response.

I much prefer to ignore them or else block them. If everybody muted and blocked this kind of person they'd eventually learn that people are not willing to put up with their crap. This kind of person thrives on attention and telling them to shut up is just one way of giving them that.

"Ignore the trolls" wasn't made up to out of laziness or apathy, it is because the best way to deal with attention seekers (which most of these kind of people are) is to ignore them, because by not giving them what they crave they will learn their behaviour isn't working.

Shouting at them in return just escalates the situation, it really is amazing how people haven't figured this out yet.

The other alternative for those willing to put in the effort is to teach people some compassion and manners, but that's not likely to work over the internet, because nobody really gives a damn what a stranger thinks when it comes down to it. That kind of thing is really down to family and friends who are a better person than the idiot/troll.
 

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Twenty Ninjas said:
Realitycrash said:
..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?
All I said was that people should grow a spine. I've gotten threatened so many times online and in real life and I've never had any news outlets running after me going BOO HOO over it. Nor do I care enough about random words people throw around when they're acting stupid.

The important thing is not whether I "think it's alright" or not. We can sit around getting pent up over other people's opinions all day long and at the end of the day it'll never be more than a pointless exercise. The important question is what we should do about it. And I'm vehemently opposed to doing much other than nothing.
So have I. I've been threatened and abused mostly my entire life. I still don't see why I can't get worked up and call for these assholes to be banned from their game. Telling people to 'grow a spine' is unnecessarily inflammatory.
 

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reason #1 e-sports should not exist. competitive gaming is a realm of radical meta-gamers that pits obsessive, unstable weirdos against each other for the world to turn their heads and snigger at. at some point we're gonna have to decide whether gaming as a culture is represented by the sportsmanship of frat boys, children, and overly-invested koreans; or by the thoughts and discussions of a more general and less voracious audience that build a social element to works of individual entertainment and art.

the point is gaming cannot have ANY defined culture, as a serious artform or otherwise, if it is simultaneously seen as a both an individual hobby and a publicly covered competitive sport. you dont call a basketball game a TV show, do you? its technically true, but socially its seen as something completely different from the programs around it. gaming as a culture needs to find some way to distance these two halves in the public eye, so that both can finally evolve into what they want to be, and fairly divide the news articles highlighting the stupidity of either, improving the public image of both.