I understood that, but Cambridge is a University, and hence should be discussed as one. My high-school, however, did have several classes where we watched R-rated movies- we just had to get permission from parents.Postman667 said:
Cambridge Deems Twilight Worthy of Analysis
- Thread starter Tom Goldman
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First Reaction: Gah! nonononoononononoNO! why, dear god why! Now i'll soon have to study THIS for Christ Sakes NOOOOOOOO! Vampires do not Sparkle Damn it!
Thoughtful Reaction:Well actually, the Reason Most males hate it is because of The HUGE amount of Romance, the emoness (not that bad actually), and the fact that it turns Vampires into Sparkling Romantics. We react this way because it goes against most forms of Manliness. If we were a bit open-mind-
*Notices crowd with Pitchforkes*
Reaction to appease the Masses: Dear God NOOOOOO! why must this Happen!
Thoughtful Reaction:Well actually, the Reason Most males hate it is because of The HUGE amount of Romance, the emoness (not that bad actually), and the fact that it turns Vampires into Sparkling Romantics. We react this way because it goes against most forms of Manliness. If we were a bit open-mind-
*Notices crowd with Pitchforkes*
Reaction to appease the Masses: Dear God NOOOOOO! why must this Happen!
The best way to make someone hate something is to make themwrite an essay on it. Trust me, I know. Is this in ENgland or America, would be my first question, and then I would ask how exactly would you study a game? are PS3's going to be compulsory in classrooms?
Another point I feel I should make, Is that one can often find by chance things in poetry that seem connected, but that the writer did not include. Im sure If you look hard enough, Twilight is full of complex metaphors!
Or not.
Another point I feel I should make, Is that one can often find by chance things in poetry that seem connected, but that the writer did not include. Im sure If you look hard enough, Twilight is full of complex metaphors!
Or not.
A great idea, but I doubt it will work. Some girls I've spoken to said that Twilight was better than Dracula because Edward was hot and Dracula was boring. Sad, isn't it?quantum mechanic said:
well dragon ball z did help me manage my anger... slightly
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it would be nice to get new cirriculum to analyze. and hey, the education system is known for its amazing stupidity...get used to it. It'll be dropped (hopefully) after a year.
Else im going to... negotiate the cirriculum with the help of my associates Smith & wesson.
Else im going to... negotiate the cirriculum with the help of my associates Smith & wesson.
Twilight: girl wants sex, can't have it with the man she wants, starts acting weird. There, explained.
There was no phenomenon.SuperMse said:
All Twilight proved was that women are just as eager as men to hear sexual descriptions of the opposite gender.
Even the movies were chips of dialogue leading the viewer on to the next porn dip.
I have nothing against selling sex to people, I'm a fan, but people act like that wasn't what happened sometimes.
I've been to the movies and I've read the books, I've taken the big sexy many bullet to see what the deal was. If they wrote a book called "mantwighlight" and just talked about women in the same horny tone that they do the male case I'm sure a bunch of horny men would read it.
Not a phenomenon, not even a new discovery.
I'm saying that anything that has been well known for the entirety of human history is a little less shocking than a phenomenon.SuperMse said:
At least in the cultural sense.
That would be like me saying "Breasts! It is a phenomenon that men at large love them!" It's a statement that hasn't been revolutionary in well over five thousand years. Probably much much longer, back when people had vocabularies of barely a dozen words I'm sure they were already saying it.
People wanting sex and wanting to reproduce is not a phenomenon, it is expected and necessary for the future survival of the species.
Madness? THIS! IS! CAMBRIDGE!!! *kick*MR T3D said:
But back on track: I can totally understand the need to investigate today's pop-culture, including games, movies and literature, as a means to understand WHY they appeal to kids and teens and other people these days; but as one of the most prestigious educational institutions in the world, I believe you should seperate that what is decent from that which is not. There is a line. And Twilight just crosses that one for me.
But as Break commented before me, the crazed phenomenons surrounding certain pieces of popculture today is very much worth of analysis. Because, how can a book with so many flaws become so popular with so many people? (beats me ;-), tbh)
Basically this... I shudder at that last comment, comrade, for I fear it may be the next logical step.Elesar said:
But honestly, content-wise, there's not much TO Twilight, so if one stupid school wants to study a whole lot of nothing, they're going to get a whole lot of nothing and are going to waste a whole lot of money on the whole lot of nothing and it's their loss.
But as a cultural phenomenon, Twilight is mildly fascinating (saying nothing for the content and I swear if anyone takes that sentence out of context I'm going to rip their sparklepire face off!) Nothing has hit the specific teen girl demographic and stuck to it's guns for FIVE YEARS like Twilight has, so clearly there must be something behind it.
As long as by analysis they mean:
Then i can see no reason to oppose it.
- Tele-robotically.
- Operating the controls while wearing several hazmat suits.
- It's situated around a volcano, on far side of Neptune.
- and its for the purposes of an creating anti-twilight compound.
Then i can see no reason to oppose it.
Worthy of comparison? Twilight is only good for getting those who do not read to do so.
Twilight is not worthy of analysis. Before moving onto books such as Dracula, Frankenstein, 1984 and Fahrenheit 451, I read the entire series. The Twilight Saga is not on par with the House of Night series. Each and every single book consists of : Struggle, conflict and love (which consists of partner arguing AND being sychophantic simultaneously), further conflict (to which Bella always gets obnoxiously suicidal). Each book is complete with an ending composed to make the next book sell. Each book, almost identical. With the exception of the fourth, which is considered crappy by most fans anyway.
I suppose it may be of use to find out how such a book managed to get such attention.
Twilight is not worthy of analysis. Before moving onto books such as Dracula, Frankenstein, 1984 and Fahrenheit 451, I read the entire series. The Twilight Saga is not on par with the House of Night series. Each and every single book consists of : Struggle, conflict and love (which consists of partner arguing AND being sychophantic simultaneously), further conflict (to which Bella always gets obnoxiously suicidal). Each book is complete with an ending composed to make the next book sell. Each book, almost identical. With the exception of the fourth, which is considered crappy by most fans anyway.
I suppose it may be of use to find out how such a book managed to get such attention.
No. No. If you want to analyse something, make it a book that isn't a single woman's collection of sexual fantasies. It reads like fan fiction and the premise alone makes me want to stab Stephanie Meyer repeatedly. I tried to read her latest book, The Host, while waiting for a friend in Waterstones and I had to quit after reading the blurb because I felt a brain haemorrhage coming on.
If you're gonna analyse anything and put it on the curriculum at Cambridge, make it George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series. The single greatest book series of all time.
If you're gonna analyse anything and put it on the curriculum at Cambridge, make it George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series. The single greatest book series of all time.
Well, since the thread is back, with the same issues as before...
Honestly, having read at least three books in the series, I think A Song of Ice and Fire has some nifty characterization but really doesn't have much going for it in the way of literary themes. If I were a professor, it's not a book that I'd find it interesting to teach.
-- Alex
... A collection of sexual fantasies that happens to have made a huge impression of the modern teen audience. That's why this particular bit of "trash" fiction is part of a program focused on "why and whether, as researchers and teachers, we can offer [children and young adults] something that addresses the same needs but also deals with these themes in a critical and ethical way."Doc Theta Sigma said:
Is A Song of Ice and Fire popular children's literature? No, as far as I can tell. Its impact is largely limited to genre fans.Doc Theta Sigma said:
Honestly, having read at least three books in the series, I think A Song of Ice and Fire has some nifty characterization but really doesn't have much going for it in the way of literary themes. If I were a professor, it's not a book that I'd find it interesting to teach.
-- Alex