NoElesar said:Next thing you know we'll be studying Jonas Brothers alongside the Beatles in music.
NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
If this happens, something will die. (Even if it is just my soul)
NoElesar said:Next thing you know we'll be studying Jonas Brothers alongside the Beatles in music.
I know exactly what Twillight says about contemporary western culture.Good morning blues said:Anybody who claims this is a bad idea knows nothing at all about culture studies. Twilight says a hell of a lot more about contemporary western cultures than anything Douglas Coupland's written in the past decade, even if it doesn't mean to.
Yes, the cultural phenomenon of idiocy.SuperMse said:Now, calm down everyone. They never said that the book was good; they only said that it should be studied as a cultural phenomenon. I can't say I disagree with that.
I'd have to agree. It's the stuff that appeals to the populace that defines a culture, not just the high-falutin (or however you spell that, if it is indeed a word) works of intellectuals.Good morning blues said:Anybody who claims this is a bad idea knows nothing at all about culture studies. Twilight says a hell of a lot more about contemporary western cultures than anything Douglas Coupland's written in the past decade, even if it doesn't mean to.
Madness? this. is. Sparta!!!MR T3D said:at least almost all the others have appeal to both sexes, this.... this...
THIS IS MADNESS!
Agreed. At least someone might figure why people like this piddle.SuperMse said:Now, calm down everyone. They never said that the book was good; they only said that it should be studied as a cultural phenomenon. I can't say I disagree with that.
THIS! IS! SPARTA! Guess what movie's going to be in the curriculum?MR T3D said:at least almost all the others have appeal to both sexes, this.... this...
THIS IS MADNESS!
which is cool.CkretAznMan said:THIS! IS! SPARTA! Guess what movie's going to be in the curriculum?MR T3D said:at least almost all the others have appeal to both sexes, this.... this...
THIS IS MADNESS!
Completely agreed. The only thing worthy of studying in the Twilight series is the effects of bad grammar, female and male post-breakup stress, dangerously suicidal behaviour which ends in "fixing" the problem by getting back together, and how the entire series denotes a sexist view of the female.Elesar said:I'm entirely against this. I understand it's a pop culture thing and I understand it's a phenomenom but it's not worthy of study, because there is NOTHING underneath it. You want to study a pop culture thing? Study the 2004 Battlestar Galactica. Study District 9 or Moon. Study Final Fantasy VII or Silent Hill 2. Fuck, you want vampires? Study Let the Right One In. Those are all things that have deeper meanings and, more importantly are well made. Shit is shit. Don't care how popular it is, nothing can unshit the shit. I don't care why people like this shit, STUDYING it will make them feel more justified in liking it.
Next thing you know we'll be studying Jonas Brothers alongside the Beatles in music.
And don't forget it also teaches those girls that the truly loyal, noble, caring, there-for-her friend she's known for years isn't boyfriend material. That girls can take those friendships and tug on them until they're shattering, then spit salt in the wounds.D.L.390 said:I can explain the commercial "success" of Twilight.
It makes lonely girls (whether due to personality or luck, usually personality) feel like there is a perfect man out there somewhere, and that they can have him.
A lot of them don't realise, however, that people are not perfect and that NO-ONE is Edward Cullen. This makes a lot of young women have higher expectations from the opposite sex than are reasonable, and is the main reason I hate it.
I think that sums it up, along with my view as well.
Because teenagers are idiotsVredesbyrd67 said:Now hold on a second.
Twilight is terrible and doesn't deserve to be called literature, this is true. Yet, despite this, it's currently the most popular teenage romance novel and one of the biggest franchises IN THE WORLD. I'd sure as hell like to know how that happened, wouldn't you?