camping, am i the only one that has a real problem with campers?

[Christemo]

i find em annoying, but i got nothing against it. they are just people who need to get owned.

 

[Arcyde]

I hate campers, as well

 

[xLANKYx]

im a hybrid, im perfectly happy either camping or run n guning, which i do at any given time depends on many variables. becose of this not only do i see the pros & cons of both styles of play but i dont have anything against playing against either style, i simply adapt.

 

[painfull2006]

They dont annoy me that much any more, especially on WAW, WAW is made up of a couple of kinds of players, people that go around spraying mp40, type 100 ect and people who camp because they are using a different type of weapon that isn't uber charged one toe shot kill

nade sorts them out, or you could play something else

 

[keyton777]

nope just wanted to see if he would come back, i moved after i killed him, sorry for not mentioning it, it was hardcore teamdeath match, so theres a certain amount of time before he was going to comeback
so i waited for him to spawn and waited in the stairs, he was in the belltower the whole time


as i said i forgot to mention i moved after each time i killed him

if they have a sniper or is playying a sniper class then ya i suppose i dont mind camping cuase that is that point of a sniper but if u mean for example guy sits in one entrance room with 1 hit kill weapon waiting for u to come in the room and there are no nade then yes that dose piss me off

the last bit was actually what i was getting at
some dick sitting in a corner that you cant see but he can see into the room with a rocket launcher or somthing like that

 

[keyton777]

i play FPS games, and in the online multi-player, i find a lot of campers, i think this is beyond annoying, i get that its a strategy that some people use to win, but come on every map?
in call of duty 5 world at war, on the upheaval map, i think thats what its called, if you have played the game its the one with church bell tower, one of the guys on the other team ever time he came back to life he went to the bell tower, and he did it like a handicapped blind squirrel, i was waiting for him infront of the stairs going up the tower and he ran right by me 3 times, and i killed him all three times.
campers shouldnt talk trash after games either, it doesnt make much sense and all of them do it, its just going to make everyone not play the game with you because you camp and because you take the challenge out of it for your team, and the other team.

if you have ways of dealing with them in-game, i wouldnt mind knowing to tell the truth, i dont like campers and seriously.

(camper: person that sits and hides in one spot and isnt sniping, this is also known as spawn-camping, in the case this person is shooting into the opposing teams spawing area.)

i mean no offence to those that do camp buy this article, and if you do, oh well not much i can do, then again i dont really care what a camper thinks

read the posts in the fourm, belive me, i have gone over this three times with ppl that dont bother to read the fucking posts in the fourm, trust me after 7 pages we have gone over this, read it, just fucking read it, if your too lazy then get off and go back to sleep
I can't see where you're saying that, explanation please?

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Sniper-camping is fine, as long as it's not spawn-camping. You don't see snipers running away and finding new spots every second in real life. If camping works and you're getting kills, count yourself a pretty elite sniper.

 

[Clirck]

Spawn camp not nice, just camp, logical.
You can't go into war and start whining why aren't the snipers coming out and fight like a men.
They like what they like. Whatever camping is normal.

 

[keyton777]

I am the only one that doesn't mind playing against campers?
Like you said yourself, (thread creator that is), you got 3 easy kills.

In both COD4 and COD5, the maps have been designed so that there isn't any real camping spots, or none that are easily countered.

An example being, the clock tower on upheaval. Even if you do make it up the stairs to the top, there is little to no cover and the whole world expects someone to be sat there. Its the worst place to camp due to ease of death.

For those not camping, its +1 for kills.

For me, thats the only way I can see camping. They might get you once, but if you haven't learnt that someone is there (they even give you a killcam) then a change in gameplay is required?


Edit: Oh, and Hi

Hi too you to

 

[keyton777]

Sniper-camping is fine, as long as it's not spawn-camping. You don't see snipers running away and finding new spots every second in real life. If camping works and you're getting kills, count yourself a pretty elite sniper.

thats because snipers in real life dont have a humongus flash telling everbody where they are, and i know i said this b4, i dont count sniping as camping

 

[keyton777]

Spawn camp not nice, just camp, logical.
You can't go into war and start whining why aren't the snipers coming out and fight like a men.
They like what they like. Whatever camping is normal.

spawn camping does suck huge balls, thats one reason i stopped playing some FPS games online, was because i couldnt actually play without some asswhipe kiling me right off, you cant really get around that.




and again SNIPERS ARNT CAMPERS

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

Sniper-camping is fine, as long as it's not spawn-camping. You don't see snipers running away and finding new spots every second in real life. If camping works and you're getting kills, count yourself a pretty elite sniper.

thats because snipers in real life dont have a humongus flash telling everbody where they are, and i know i said this b4, i dont count sniping as camping

Then in that case, camping is the trait of a kill-whore. Unless it's a tactical, well-thought position. Like having a heavy machine-gun "close" to a spawn point.

 

[keyton777]

Sniper-camping is fine, as long as it's not spawn-camping. You don't see snipers running away and finding new spots every second in real life. If camping works and you're getting kills, count yourself a pretty elite sniper.

thats because snipers in real life dont have a humongus flash telling everbody where they are, and i know i said this b4, i dont count sniping as camping

Then in that case, camping is the trait of a kill-whore. Unless it's a tactical, well-thought position. Like having a heavy machine-gun "close" to a spawn point.

spawn camping, or just camping in a room that everbody has to go thru is just annoying, right up untill you chuck the grenade into that little room, or just quit out of the match and leave the spawn camping dipshit to fondle his gun waiting for more ppl for him to shoot at, or i hope, spawn camp him

 

[keyton777]

id like to point out, im amazed this thread is still open


i mean, i opened it months ago, and its still open

 

[NeutralDrow]

id like to point out, im amazed this thread is still open


i mean, i opened it months ago, and its still open

Agreed, though this is one of the few forums I've seen that doesn't have a problem with necromancy.


As for camping...I don't have a problem with all but one iteration of it. After all, whether you're setting up a sniping location or simply waiting in ambush, stealth is a very practical and effective tactic. After all, he with the courage/foolhardiness to charge in guns blazing may have the scrotal capacity of a giant, but the massive balls needed to employ such a tactic also make them sink farther...yeah, that metaphor sounded a lot better in my head. Nonetheless, campers have the same problem that snipers do: once you know they're there, they're fucked. Someone smart enough to ambush successfully still has to come out in the open every once in a while or swallow a grenade or otherwise catch a literal case of explosive diarrhea.

The one exception? Spawn camping. That's just pure, concentrated asshattery.

 

[Minimike3636]

I admit, I camp like hell. If you don't, you will get killed by those who do.

I am a camper myself, so here are some tips to F*** with some other campers.
1. Take their spot, but don't use it. Wait until they return. They should be in a spot that is quite nicely hidden, so there should be a spot where you can see no one, and no one can see you.
2. Explosives. Lob grenades, plant C4/claymores/Betties, etc... they're usually tucked in so well that they can't avoid them.
3. Teamwork. Have someone act as bait, but make sure its not obvious. Have him run around and swap between different visible cover. As long as there is no radar involved (like in Halo 3, or Recon Plane in CoD) you should be able to kill the camper. Radar should not be a problem with a sniping camper because most games get rid of radars whilst sniping.
4. Smoke Grenades. This just makes him mad, especially if your team spams them at him.
5. When all else fails, KICK.

 

[Weaver]

Camping is fine, especially for games that a striving for a bit of realism.
I don't see why people have enormous problems with it. In WW2 an MG42 squad wasn't sitting there going "man this is SOOOO cheap!" and people weren't just running around like idiots. If you don't want guerilla warfare then go make an FPS that takes place in the 1700s where you stand in a line and shoot each other.

Like I remember in CoD4 there was a sniper who was "camping", really just sitting in one spot and people were mad at him. Like ... he's a SNIPER, that's what he DOES.

 

[keyton777]

id like to point out, im amazed this thread is still open


i mean, i opened it months ago, and its still open

Agreed, though this is one of the few forums I've seen that doesn't have a problem with necromancy.


As for camping...I don't have a problem with all but one iteration of it. After all, whether you're setting up a sniping location or simply waiting in ambush, stealth is a very practical and effective tactic. After all, he with the courage/foolhardiness to charge in guns blazing may have the scrotal capacity of a giant, but the massive balls needed to employ such a tactic also make them sink farther...yeah, that metaphor sounded a lot better in my head. Nonetheless, campers have the same problem that snipers do: once you know they're there, they're fucked. Someone smart enough to ambush successfully still has to come out in the open every once in a while or swallow a grenade or otherwise catch a literal case of explosive diarrhea.

The one exception? Spawn camping. That's just pure, concentrated asshattery.

yeah i have noticed lately that some campers, snipers end up sitting on their own landmines in CoD5, even had an ambusher unlucky enough to actually be sitting on the mine, on the other side of the wall and i just walk past and it exploded, i saw his leg go bouncing down the hallway.





and yes spawn camping is for dickless cowards that dont have anyother tactics

and i challenge anyone of those little panzys to say something

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I rarely see anything appraoching camping these days because modern FPS gameplay isn't conducive to the process. I don't for example consider defending an objective (literally an action that if you removed the objective is nothing BUT camping) to be camping. Most games require the occasional static defense from time to time and since the camper is rarely rewarded with a significant adavntage of any kind I don't see how I can decy someone for trying to do so.

 

[ghost1807]

"Camping" is a widely misunderstood term, that's often misused, because not many people understand its origins, or what the word really means.

The term "camping" originates from the days of Doom, Quake and Unreal, where bonuses like quad damage or good weapons would respawn in a set location after a certain time period. A "camper" was someone who would sit in one location waiting for the respawn of the most powerful or useful item so they could them dominate the field, then return to that space and wait for however long that item took to respawn after the pickup (usually a few minutes or so), and pick up the respawn again and again...

"Camping" doesn't really apply to a more modern FPS where there are no respawnable items, such as, for instance Counter-Strike or Call Of Duty. Hiding somewhere and waiting for an enemy to walk by, then shooting him in the back after he fails to check your hidey hole, is that camping? NO. That is an AMBUSH, a perfectly normal and acceptable tactic in FPS play. Hiding by a capture point like a flag and killing people who try to approach in a capture the flag game or in a game like Battlefield, is that camping? NO. That is DEFENDING THE FLAG. Also very, very different from camping, and a completely acceptable and in fact necessary strategy for winning the game, which is encouraged by the game mechanics and rightly so. A battlefield needs attackers and defenders, just like a soccer pitch does. Accusing a flag defender of camping the flag is like accusing a goalie in a soccer game of "camping the goal". What about sitting somewhere high and hiding, waiting to shoot players at long range? Is that camping? NO. That would be SNIPING. Most modern FPS games encourage the use of this practice and even give you sniper weapons to make it easier.

In short, camping is only camping in the true sense of the word if it's giving a player a massive unfair advantage like the collection of a powerful item (in Battlefield 2, people tend to camp the runways for instance, because planes are ludicrously overpowered in that game so people grab planes every time they respawn). Anything else is not really camping, it's just defensive or stealthy FPS tactics, perfectly acceptable, very commmon and in fact a very smart way to play a lot of modern FPS games.

/discussion

Thank you, I'm glad someone said it!
I'm sick and tired of someone using a legitimate strategy of hunkering down in a spot in games such as CS and mowing down the enemy team as they blindly rush past firing off as many possible rounds in every direction, only to have them turn around and say, "You noob camper! (*insert stream of swears and unnecessary profanity here*)" or something to that effect.

CS really is my best example since it is where I hear it most, and I'd like those people to think for a moment....

If it was an actual scenario where lets say there's a group of people holding hostages and have hunkered down in the room with said hostages waiting for the rescuers to come in, do you really think that said rescuers would be outside screaming "Come out you stupid campers!!"? No. Because the hostage takers realize running around like chickens with their heads cut off firing blindly at a group of enemies is......wait for it.....stupid.

And that's my two cents.