Post this on 4chan, I dare you. Talking about Reddit on there is like getting your dick out at a feminist rally, you just don't do it.erttheking said:
Can we please stop it with the Tumblr hate?
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I'm with the OP. Any time Tumblr is having a "shitfit" chances are that at least 99.9% of the people on Tumblr are completely unaware of what's happening. Hardly anyone on there knew about Dashcon until everyone started making jokes about it, for example. Anyway, as I've said before on here, Tumblr is far more broken up then people seem to think, and it's designed to be that way. You create an account, you start following people who post stuff you like, and hopefully people who like the stuff you post start following you. Don't just run into the SJW tags and start smearing your face on the first thing that makes you angry.
But yeah, given that this thread alone has people referring to Tumblr as having "a higher concentration of cunts" and being "where all the fucktarded social justice warriors and morons" gather, I have a hard time buying that this is a nicer place to be. Don't worry, we encourage critical thinking here!
And funnily enough it was on this website I was compared to being the Grand Dragon of the KKK, not Tumblr. I appreciate that my experience probably isn't the usual, though.
But yeah, given that this thread alone has people referring to Tumblr as having "a higher concentration of cunts" and being "where all the fucktarded social justice warriors and morons" gather, I have a hard time buying that this is a nicer place to be. Don't worry, we encourage critical thinking here!
And funnily enough it was on this website I was compared to being the Grand Dragon of the KKK, not Tumblr. I appreciate that my experience probably isn't the usual, though.
I should point out that the (most famous) post on Tumblr condemning white parents adopting non-white kids was actually made by a neo-Nazi who had a problem with that kind of adoption for... Well, the obvious reasons a neo-Nazi would. But a lot of people just assumed it was a SJW post and ran with it.TizzytheTormentor said:
Um, yeah, I somehow manage to use Tumblr and even follow few gay rights/feminism blogs and avoid all the rabid shit. (then again, the way people like to throw the word SJW around, I'm sure blog posts about the history and cultural views on body-hair, or female character design in different games are probably the most horrific things ever.)
I mostly use it for fandom stuff though.
And art and photography.
My biggest run-in with that stuff was when a friend got anon hate for saying someone was tall. It was so dumb we're not even sure what it was all about.
(Also I'm way more open about my sexuality and gender identity on THIS site than on Tumblr, since there have actually been people making threads and inviting you to a discussion. It comes up way less on a site where I'm mostly in contact with people who like the same comics I do)
Tumblr isn't a singular thing, but people want to have their solid targets so they can feel persecuted.
It's so much more impressive to imagine there is an organized website unified to eradicate white cishet men everywhere.
It makes it easy to dismiss any arguments that can be tied to it too.
I mostly use it for fandom stuff though.
And art and photography.
My biggest run-in with that stuff was when a friend got anon hate for saying someone was tall. It was so dumb we're not even sure what it was all about.
(Also I'm way more open about my sexuality and gender identity on THIS site than on Tumblr, since there have actually been people making threads and inviting you to a discussion. It comes up way less on a site where I'm mostly in contact with people who like the same comics I do)
Tumblr isn't a singular thing, but people want to have their solid targets so they can feel persecuted.
It's so much more impressive to imagine there is an organized website unified to eradicate white cishet men everywhere.
It makes it easy to dismiss any arguments that can be tied to it too.
Huh, really? Why?ToastiestZombie said:
The way the internet portrays the users of tumblr reminds me of Rick in The Young Ones. I've never been on tumblr myself but I've seen some screen grabs of the silly things posted there. I occasionally grab the odd dog and cat gif from tumblr via google though.
Which is sort of unfortunate, since most of the crap is made up. The latest "Tumblr fit" for example happened mostly on Twitter. The facts don't matter.SaneAmongInsane said:
Is Tumblr a good site? Meh. I mostly see Tumblr when looking up
Tumblr is basically a scapegoat for everything wrong with the internet. Even if the issue happens on Twitter. Or Facebook. Or YouTube. Or here.
"SJW" is an almost meaningless pejorative, but I'm pretty sure one of the defining characteristics of the "SJW" pejorative is that they are really vocal. That's sort of like saying "I have a problem with Houston because of all the white kids listening to rap."M0rp43vs said:
Of course, it is somewhat different, because "white" and "rap" have real definitions other than "people who are vocal on a subject I disagree with or don't want to deal with."
Fucktarded? Is that even a word?stormeris said:
Also, I'm detected a bit of a generalization here.
I missed this before I hit "post," but I think you nailed it here. It borders on conspiracy theories.Lieju said:
Besides, nobody gathers on Tumblr to plot to eradicate straight, white, cismen. We use Google+.
Honestly I've been playing around with the idea that perhaps certain websites' mechanics attract certain people or even just encourage certain behaviors.
It's the reason why Twitter's shitstorms are caused by people doing micdrops and vanishing, it's the reason 4chan created /b/, and it's the reason why you have the infamous MRA thing over with Reddit.
Tumblr is a mixture of blogging and social networking where you get very isolated communities of people who are trying to express things. It's basically livejournal with a quicker share feature. So you get a lot of personal and painful stuff from people where that's one of their few places they can express it, while at the same time you get this stuff overlapping with a lot of media being reposted there. In addition, you get people popularizing their image due to the blog approach.
As such this kind of encourages SJW in several ways, but I hesitate to call that a breeding ground of actual social justice discussion, given that it's not really a place of empathy so much as a place where there's a community for social issues and an easy way to show you care without committing too much to a cause. This is why controversies flare up rather than really stay constant.
It's actually really easy to avoid a lot of drama on that site, same with every social networking site, but I feel it's important to address WHY it gets that reputation.
I mean, take a look at the Escapist, where you have a system where discussions are born in the first couple of pages of a thread, while the later pages are either continuations of things that began in the early pages or they're responses to the OP. You get a lot of people here who then fire off a single post and leave the thread, and users are encouraged to post in the newest stuff.
We value getting our 2 cents in and then leaving, not really looking over a thread for weeks. It's why we get so many "Am I the only one..."s because the site is set up so that what is new is what's at the forefront of the discussion, and so we don't hear as many matching opinions. Meanwhile the hate for this brought on by the large amount of these posts seems almost inherited by new generations of Escapists as they're taught this question is deserving of sarcasm due to this response being so common.
The site's mechanics are also why you'll always see a select group of users at the front page of every article for set periods of time. The site is all about moving to the latest thing.
Just some food for thought on social networking in general.
It's the reason why Twitter's shitstorms are caused by people doing micdrops and vanishing, it's the reason 4chan created /b/, and it's the reason why you have the infamous MRA thing over with Reddit.
Tumblr is a mixture of blogging and social networking where you get very isolated communities of people who are trying to express things. It's basically livejournal with a quicker share feature. So you get a lot of personal and painful stuff from people where that's one of their few places they can express it, while at the same time you get this stuff overlapping with a lot of media being reposted there. In addition, you get people popularizing their image due to the blog approach.
As such this kind of encourages SJW in several ways, but I hesitate to call that a breeding ground of actual social justice discussion, given that it's not really a place of empathy so much as a place where there's a community for social issues and an easy way to show you care without committing too much to a cause. This is why controversies flare up rather than really stay constant.
It's actually really easy to avoid a lot of drama on that site, same with every social networking site, but I feel it's important to address WHY it gets that reputation.
I mean, take a look at the Escapist, where you have a system where discussions are born in the first couple of pages of a thread, while the later pages are either continuations of things that began in the early pages or they're responses to the OP. You get a lot of people here who then fire off a single post and leave the thread, and users are encouraged to post in the newest stuff.
We value getting our 2 cents in and then leaving, not really looking over a thread for weeks. It's why we get so many "Am I the only one..."s because the site is set up so that what is new is what's at the forefront of the discussion, and so we don't hear as many matching opinions. Meanwhile the hate for this brought on by the large amount of these posts seems almost inherited by new generations of Escapists as they're taught this question is deserving of sarcasm due to this response being so common.
The site's mechanics are also why you'll always see a select group of users at the front page of every article for set periods of time. The site is all about moving to the latest thing.
Just some food for thought on social networking in general.
Two things you need to consider. First, as far as the majority being reasonable, please remember that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. And second, as far as trying to convince the internet to deflate its hate boner, well, Sisyphus comes to mind.
I am actually surprised to see mention of Tena outside of tumblr. I have been following her for a while now, so I got to see some of the change you were talking about. I do more often than not, side with her on many issues though. I mean even though she is VERY abrasive, she tends to be a voice of reason in the misinformed, echo chamber that tumblr can be. She actually still makes many posts about horror and gravity falls still(especially since the second season came out), however, most of her posts about social justice and bronies are responses to questions she has been asked by others.Madame_Lawliet said:
As for the whole topic in general, I like tumblr; it is an easy way to to see new art and get exposed to other types of media. However, there is quite a lot of misinformation, racism and sexism that tends to be rampant in some circles on tumblr. Frankly, I am unsure what to do to help clean up the community a bit. I figure just call people out on their BS, and if they do anything illegal, report them. I mean hell, one person tried to get someone's husband DEPORTED because they disagreed with them. It...can be quite vexing to see shit like that happen over something so trivial.
Yeah, the Tumblr hate on this website annoys me too. There's crazy people on Tumblr sure but I hate people treating the website like it's a hive mind.
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Please, NOBODY uses Google+ ;PZachary Amaranth said:
OT: A lot of the user base for Tumblr is teens and we all know teens; they post whatever comes to mind
It's a lot like a diary but you can't burn the diary when you find it again after 5 years
It's always there... Mocking you... tormenting you...
*shudder*
Unless some other event happened, I'm going to guess you are talking about Pinkiepony with the whole deportation remark. I think Pinkiepony is also what dragged tena into furiously attacking her whole clique, and spreading out into basically 90% of her anti-sjw posts, which is kind of understandable since pinkie was a unique blend of drama magnet and utter hypocrite.Broderick said:
On the plus side, that deportation fiasco seems to have pretty much killed her presence on Tumblr, I think her blog is still deleted, she probably realized that commiting crimes wouldn't go over so well when she finally turns old enough to be tried as an adult.
OT: Tumblr gets a lot of hate and stereotypes, but so do a lot of websites. 4chan is pretty much just /b to anyone that doesn't go to the site, Reddit is often considered a cesspool of annoying neckbeards and often gets lumped in with either the MRA or red pill crowd, Facebook is pretty much associated with everything vapid and mainstream, and so on and so forth.
The actual stereotypes against Tumblr aren't even new, while they didn't have the term SJW, Livejournal had pretty much the same stereotypes leveled against it when it was relevant, people moved those accusations to Tumblr when it became more popular.
That's what they want you to think.PsychicTaco115 said:
This is definitely an issue, but not just with Tumblr. Pretty much every major platform (in regards to forums and blogs) where people can grind their axes, is filled to the brim with teens who are still forming their identities and sometimes are overly dramatic about it. Everything is EXTREMELY important when it's an issue that concerns them.
Personally my issue with the Tumblr hate and other social issue hot spots is that a lot of people... too many people, are getting their entire knowledge of the issues from their, and virtually no one is qualified to speak on it. It's all strong feelings and no rationality, reasoning or discourse.
It might die down in a few years, but I feel really uncomfortable with all the misinformation being passed around like it's going out of fashion.
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Illuminati confirmed?Ragsnstitches said:
Definitely a good point. There is a reason the Tumblr stereotype is "feelz before realz"
Problem is, feelz can be misguided for something that sounds so good...
Fuck
Why does everything have to be so heavy? >.<
I know that Not All Tumblr Users are bad, but the community as a whole is pretty horrible.
First we have all the shipping, which in at least 87% of cases focuses on treating two hot male characters as gay sex objects.
Then there's the scoial justice, which almost never extends to actually making a real-world difference. It's always limited to writing angry rants.
Not to mention the way the sidebars on people's profiles often mention their sexuality, because apparently people are defined by that.
First we have all the shipping, which in at least 87% of cases focuses on treating two hot male characters as gay sex objects.
Then there's the scoial justice, which almost never extends to actually making a real-world difference. It's always limited to writing angry rants.
Not to mention the way the sidebars on people's profiles often mention their sexuality, because apparently people are defined by that.
I tend to think that people trying desperately to keep Tumblr as their hate pinata tend to make themselves look foolish in doing so. Oh no, there's a teenage girl fantasizing about two men kissing and feeling like she has a free space to identify her sexuality! Don't those teenage girls know that only MANLY MEN are allowed to fantasize about HOMOSEXUALITY because LESBIANS? And sometimes people even feel enthusiastic about making people's lives better! They might even call themselves FEMINISTS! And do you know that sometimes there are FIGHTS on a WEBSITE on the INTERNET? How horrible, get to the lifeboats, women and children first, etc etc.
But truthfully, I always get sort of whistful when they talk about the Tumblr hivemind as if it's a thing that exists. It sure would save some awfulness, like literal neo-nazis invading the Welcome to Night Vale fandom in order just to target people who happen to be not white or even just people who enjoy drawing characters who are not white because 'the superiority of the aryan race blah blah let's go tell people to kill themselves', apparently. It'd be a much nicer place if everyone really was part of this hive mind. Without the neo-nazis. Or the pedophiles. And so on.
But truthfully, I always get sort of whistful when they talk about the Tumblr hivemind as if it's a thing that exists. It sure would save some awfulness, like literal neo-nazis invading the Welcome to Night Vale fandom in order just to target people who happen to be not white or even just people who enjoy drawing characters who are not white because 'the superiority of the aryan race blah blah let's go tell people to kill themselves', apparently. It'd be a much nicer place if everyone really was part of this hive mind. Without the neo-nazis. Or the pedophiles. And so on.