Capcom Kills Mega Man Legends 3

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Inafune's departure isn't the thing that showed the writing on the walls for me, it was what he said after he left that said a lot. He'd risen to a rather high position in the company by the time he left and he was practically the driving force behind several projects...but when he left he said that he needed to go somewhere he felt he could be free.

There'd been a rumor going around for a while that Capcom was never planning to release this game and that the purpose of making it public was to try to rally the fan community to show it could work. After all, Inafune said repeatedly since MML2 was released that he wanted to return to that series but that it was hard to get projects like that approved. After he hit the position of Capcom's Global Head of Production they suddenly had an interest in doing it again that hadn't been there before.

It was strange when I saw his interviews after he quit where he said that he wanted more freedom to do the projects he wanted to do. He became the Global Head of Production, meaning he was one of the highest authorities in what would and wouldn't get produced. Yet he still said that he couldn't do the things he wanted to do.

Knowing that, the rumor they never intended to go through with the project makes me wonder: did Legends/Dash 3, MMU and possibly countless others we aren't aware of die because Inafune quit...or did Inafune quit because he knew those project would die?
 

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Trishbot said:
My favourite game series include Resi, Mega Man, Dead rising and Vs. Capcom. Seeing this decline is extremely depressing. Add me to the "Second hand only" list.
 

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Ah, so basically capcom trolled.

Well, no, maybe not. But they just didnt care. Well, thats good to tell your customers. Oh well, I dont particularly mind, but I wasnt looking forward to it. A friend was though, he's pissed.
 

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Go fuck yourself, Capcom. We're over.

Ninjamedic said:
Trishbot said:
My favourite game series include Resi, Mega Man, Dead rising and Vs. Capcom. Seeing this decline is extremely depressing. Add me to the "Second hand only" list.
I second that. I want to see this publisher rot like the maggot-infested pig corpse it's been for the last six years.
 

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This is depressing. I bought a 3DS for Megaman Legends 3 and new Paper Mario. Well, I guess a system with one game is better than a system with none... But damn! I really, really wanted this.
 

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The only game in capcoms library I care about, well that and maximo, its nice to see good games put down because the bad ones need all the money....
 

Black Watch

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Ehh... and that prototype was going to be the second best game in the eshop. I am starting to wonder why I even bought a 3DS...
 

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MMX is done, MML is canceled, MMZ is done, my favorite MM Battle Network has ended and so far no more StarForce releases.
Maybe a Megaman 11? I'd like that. Very much so.
 

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Inafune-san has been vocal about the executive meddling and corporate structure in Capcom, they're effectivly a far less successful japanese Activtision. Despite his high rank, even he couldn't get the support to make the games he wanted.

This was a corporate decision, pure and simple, and linked to Inafune's departure. Without him there to constantly go to bat for his projects, they were all canceled in rapid succession.
 

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Capcom's been making very strange decisions with the Megaman franchise. First, they oversaturate the market with knockoffs of popular games and adding Megaman-like characters to it(some, I admit worked well until they started releasing multiple versions of the same game because it worked for Game Freak), then they cancel all the titles that still contain a strong fanbase.
 

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Chibz said:
VincentX3 said:
MMX is done, MML is canceled, MMZ is done, my favorite MM Battle Network has ended and so far no more StarForce releases.
Maybe a Megaman 11? I'd like that. Very much so.
Yea... bad thing is the'll probably DLC it to death or whatever they did with 9 or 10.

I'd rather have another MMX9 or a DS collection of all the BN series.
God I envy the times I used to play MMBN2 non-stop ^_^
 

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I'm officially done with Capcom. Not just for MML3 being canceled. A lot of reasons, up to and including:

- Charging almost $20 for on-disc costumes in Street Fighter IV
- Charging $5 for on-disc friendly-fire in Resident Evil 5's "Versus" mode
- Charging for difficulty modes in Mega Man 9
- Excessively restrictive DRM in PC version of Super Street Fighter IV on PC
- Canceling Mega Man Universe out of spite for Keiji Inafune's departure
- Claiming "Super Street Fighter IV" was the last and final version of SF4.... then releasing Super Street Fighter IV: AE less than a year later.
- Inafune confessing Capcom's policy is to milk franchises and stifle creativity (he had to cheat the system to make Dead Rising and Lost Planet)
- Charging fans of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 for on-disc costumes and characters
- Re-releasing Dead Rising 2 with a different protagonist and claiming its a brand new, full-priced game.
- Saying they would make a new Darkstalkers if they received 100,000 requests for it. They did. They then said, "sorry, we meant 1,000,000 personal requests for it."
- Implementing "forever saves" in RE: Mercenaries to kill the second-hand market value
- Threatening to cancel Mega Man Legends 3 if the Prototype version didn't sell well
- Canceling Mega Man Legends 3 anyway before the Prototype was released. Canceling the Prototype too, just for kicks.
- Announcing they are pulling support from the Nintendo Wii and 3DS to concentrate on 360 and PS3.
- Probably going to announce a new, improved, better version of Marvel vs Capcom 3 this week... less than 6 MONTHS after the game came out. Sucks if you bought that $80 Collector's Edition, eh?

MML3 is particularly painful because the policy of the development team was "transparency" between them and the fans. They wanted the fans involved all the way, to let them know what they were doing, to get their reactions and feedback, to discuss gameplay, character designs, level designs, story... everything. After an 11 year wait, it was very reassuring to see such community building and passion.

And the game is canceled. Not just canceled, but they won't even give a clear indication as to why. The transparency disappeared. It became a business-suit PR response when before it had been a cheerful, enthusiastic collaboration between creators and fans. Pulling the fans in, investing their time with the creation process, and bringing their hopes up only to dash them is beyond spiteful, and the least they could have done was be forthcoming about why, but fans weren't even given that answer. It's a cold, harsh, bitter end to a dream project thousands were becoming engrossed in.

And that's just the nature of Capcom now. They'd rather re-release Resident Evil 4 for the 7th time (not counting packaged deals and platform specific re-releases; seriously, 7 times), re-release yet another version of Street Fighter IV (9 versions between platforms and counting), and milk their current games (Marvel vs. Capcom 3, step right up) for every dollar and penny than keep their promises to their fans.

This is not the same company that used to take such bold risks and give fans such quality games as Okami, Power Stone, Breath of Fire, Killer 7, Dino Crisis, Strider, Captain Commando, Mega Man Legends, Onimusha, and Godhand. Not even close.
you forgot refusing to market AAI at all, release 20 copies and then refuse to release the sequel overseas cause the first one didnt sell well. and refuse to bring over layton vs wright with little to no explanation
 

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Why does Capcom hate Megaman?
Universe: Canceled
Legends 3: Canceled
They didn't even port DASH or DASH 2 for the PSP outside of Japan because "They couldn't get the rights for or get in contact with the original English VAs." Then they should have just re-recorded the voices. We really would NOT have cared.

and for those thinking that they're canceling Legends 3 to make it a console title, check the Q&A
http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom
Q: Are there plans to restart the Mega Man Legends 3 Project in the future?

A: Currently there are none.
It is bad enough that none of the Blue Bomber's incarnations made the cut for MvC3, but what makes it worse is that Tron Bonne and Zero both made it. They're side characters. Tron Bonne got 1 game, and with Zero's main games his name is a subtitle. MegaMan's name is in the friggen titles of the games. The fans would have been happy with any Megaman. Classic, X, Trigger, .EXE, Star Force, ANY of them would have worked, but Capcom decided to go with none of them.

Most of the players on MvC3 don't even know who Tron is BECAUSE SHE HASN'T BEEN IN A GAME FOR ALMOST ELEVEN YEARS!!!

The reason why MegaMan didn't make it in? Apparently they couldn't think of a good moveset. 24 years and they couldn't think of a moveset?

If the only reason they're holding onto the Megaman title is because they think it is cute to dress up Frank West as Megaman then STOP IT! IT ISN'T! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Because that's ALL Capcom seems to be doing with Megaman. Considering that 2 titles have been canceled, Zero sagas have ended and Star Force was put on hiatus in 2009, Megaman as a game title has died.

You know, I was feeling bad for Capcom because I haven't bought any of their games recently. But if all you got for your fans is a huge screw you, then SCREW YOU TOO CAPCOM! Did you not see the community's reaction when it was announced that this game would be possible? Do you see the response now that you have canceled it? If that's how you're going to treat your fans, then I have no problem jumping ship.

Just do everyone a favor and sell the Megaman brand to a developer who cares. Then at least you can get something out of it rather than just sit on it.
 

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Wow, this shows EXACTLY why gamers have a bad reputation. You ARE just a bunch of entitled, immature whiners.

YOU are the reason why developers and publishers can't be honest with the gaming community.

Capcom was kind enough to share info on a POSSIBLE game that was still pending approval. They NEVER promised they would make the game, in fact, they EXPLICITLY said that they game could very easily be cancelled.

"OMG I'm not gonna buy Capcom games!"

What's the reasoning here? A company decided developing a product was not the best financial decision so you decide to boycott them (which you won't)? Unless you own stock in the company, THEY OWE YOU NOTHING.
 

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Wow, this shows EXACTLY why gamers have a bad reputation. You ARE just a bunch of entitled, immature whiners.

YOU are the reason why developers and publishers can't be honest with the gaming community.

Capcom was kind enough to share info on a POSSIBLE game that was still pending approval. They NEVER promised they would make the game, in fact, they EXPLICITLY said that they game could very easily be cancelled.

"OMG I'm not gonna buy Capcom games!"

What's the reasoning here? A company decided developing a product was not the best financial decision so you decide to boycott them (which you won't)? Unless you own stock in the company, THEY OWE YOU NOTHING.
they did it because inafume left the company, not because of money, he got sick of them being like activision mixed with nambai so he left. his mistake was not taking the blue bomber with him

and if it wasnt for the fans there wouldnt be any stock to buy, so yes they do owe us something. and what if i did own stock? does that mean i automatically get to have a say in the matter?
 

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I'm actually glad they did this. From the teaser trailers I've seen of the game it didn't look like it was going to live up to MML series. I'm huge fan of the Mega Man Franchise and MML series, so to me this was a right move by Capcom.
 

EHKOS

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Sooooo you worked on it for a year...give us what you were working on for like, $10.
 

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Just do everyone a favor and sell the Megaman brand to a developer who cares. Then at least you can get something out of it rather than just sit on it.
I can say with certainty that you do not want that. Have you seen what happens when another company takes a swing at an old franchise?
 

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No Keiji... No Mega Man? Ever again? Unless Capcom sells that franchise back to the guy who first drew Mega Man...

I haven't even played Mega Man Legends, and I'm disappointed by this. Mainly because I really like Mega Man, and now with this and Universe cancelled, I'm wondering if Mega Man 10 was really the Blue Bomber's final hour. ;-;

I dunno what's going on at Capcom these days, but they've been kinda frustrating lately. First Universe is cancelled, then I hear Ace Attorney Investigations 2 isn't getting localized, and now this. Yeah, Capcom tends to rehash the same game even more often than Nintendo does on a regular basis (and has been doing so since the 90s at least), but they're still fun to play.

I am SO going to lose it if Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright is axed, too. (DAMMIT! I shouldn't have said that!)
 

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EHKOS said:
orangeapples said:
Just do everyone a favor and sell the Megaman brand to a developer who cares. Then at least you can get something out of it rather than just sit on it.
I can say with certainty that you do not want that. Have you seen what happens when another company takes a swing at an old franchise?
tends to be hit or miss. Better than nothing.