Capcom Unveils "Classic Dante" DLC for DMC: Devil May Cry

[ramboondiea]

How's the edgy joke with the mop on his head going to work now, huh?

easily, as it stands the costumes dont actually show up during cutscenes, whether that changes at launch I couldn't say.

and seriously people, we get it, its not the same game as before, that what they were gunning for, and its a pretty decent game as is, albeit it could benefit from a manual lock-on but meh, you cant win them all

Hey, don't try and use logic here. Logic is poison to these people!

yeah, I forgot to check in my reasoning skills at the door when I entered, such poor judgement on my part. ha

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I'm a fuckin' prophet: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.398439-DmC-Devil-May-Cry-Honest-Opinions?page=2

So how long do you think we'll have to wait for Ninja Theory to release a DLC pack with classic Dante outfit with the hair and everything? Because we all know it's gonna happen. And they will want us to pay for it

But yeah, it was obviously gonna happen. I don't care. Dante's look is not even that important. Release a Dante and Vergil personality patch and a lore fix and you got yourself a deal Capcom.

Awesome snip

You are awesome, man.

 

[ScruffyMcBalls]

snip.

Thank you. Even if no one else agrees with us, even if nothing changes as a result of you saying this, thank you. You've made my point as clearly as it needs to be made, if there were any justice in the world it would be people like you giving fans the honest and informed reviews we all deserve.

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

The thing that makes this bad as it is, is that people want a fucking peition out. Seriously? Man up guys. I didn't like the new Dante ether, but he grew on me.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy these though...damn me being such a fan..

 

[The Wykydtron]

Aha lol. God I almost forgot exactly how much of a troll Capcom could be. Oh and people are raging over cosmetic DLC that you could totally ignore. Just another day on the Interwebz I guess.


Honestly, DMC is a really good game and I actually liked Dontay. His (and Vergil's) character development was really good and it has the best combat system out of all the Devil May Crys in my opinion.

They kept and improved Nero's grab mechanic, let you use ALL of your weapons at once instead of only having 2 at a time, it looks amazing and the flow of the combat is fun as hell.

It's no Bayonetta of course, but really, no game is ever going to beat Bayonetta. Maybe if Platinum somehow takes the dodge mechanic and makes it even BETTER.

You know, I think a lot of people go into DMC actively looking for things to hate... Kinda sad actually. That mop on his head was pretty funny I have to say, it didn't have to be in the first freaking level but still. I found it to more of a good natured dig at all the rage over Dontay. Rather than Ninja Theory going "You like the old Dante?! FUCK YOU!"

Hey and umm, it's not like the old Dante is gone exactly. It's literally an alternate universe where unicorns could fly and stuff. Old Dante is still sitting pretty back in DMC1 2 3 and 4 and they could still go for a proper DMC5. It's not like they pulled a George Lucas.

I suppose i'm too much of a positive thinker for these threads... Maybe I should just post something like: "Lol Crapcom released DLC, what money whores. Imma just take this back to the shop in protest and sell it for a vastly reduced price! That'll teach 'em!"

[sub]Even though taking things back for non-technical reasons affects Capcom in no way shape or form (except one pre-owned sale) since they already have your money. Wait what?[/sub]

 

[ScruffyMcBalls]

I'm getting real sick of this "You don't have to play it" or "The originals weren't that good" or "Just get over it" attitude.
It's an IP, one with fans. People enjoyed it for what it was and it made money for the people who made it. There was no reason for this mess of a reboot. Because the term "reboot" is a complete cop out. It's just a scam to slap a name on an IP no one thought had the legs to run on its own. It's a money-making scheme.
There was no reason this DMC shite, couldn't have been a sequel. Think about it, the last game in the franchise was on this generation of consoles, and a HD re-release of the first 3 was still on shelves. And you know what that would have changed for the people with the opinions expressed in quotations above?
FUCKING NOTHING!

The fans would still have had the story they wanted, the characters they love, they'd have been happy. And everyone else would have had exactly the same game, they could have enjoyed it too. But no. No, instead what we have is a product which splits the community neatly in two. Not only does this benefit Capcom who make money from those who will buy Ninja Theory's DMC out of spite to the rest of the community (these assholes do exist). But it also directly detriments the community as a whole since we're left to squabble among ourselves in prolonged pissing matches and cat fights.

This is insanity people! What ever happened to people just getting well made games that we can enjoy, and playing them? When did this become a battle of epically retarded proportions? There is so much bile and so many toxic attitudes in our community that it's killing us. We need to clean house people, we need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask ourselves what the fuck we're doing. Because the "community" as is it, it's just not acceptable.

Rant fin.

 

[JagermanXcell]

This still won't bring the DMC 1, 3, and 4 fans back Capcom, nice try though. I still won't but it cause... well... its not a good Devil May Cry game. Simple.
Maybe 2's fanbase will be a little more gullible. Try getting a hold of them, that should push your sales numbers up... a little..

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

too bad it doesn't fix the messy story, mediocre gameplay, unlikable "heroes", awful script, and wonky, glitchy engine performance.

 

[Elois]

at this point, how Dante looks is like 4th or 5th on the list of 'things wrong with this game'

AND HOW!!!

Sorry, the above quote is pretty much perfect. This game would have be totally redesigned to be anywhere near close to as good as the third game and ninja theory just doesn't have the talent.

This game isn't even a step up from DMC 2, the worst one.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Sorry, but unless they include Dante's trucker outfit from DMC2, I'm not interested.

...okay, so I'm interested anyway, but I still want the trucker outfit.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

For those of you who haven't played DMC 3, feast your eyes. This is what young Dante and Vergil should be like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB6XPMdzzpY

Among other awesome things, you will notice that Dante can't actually beat Vergil in a fight.

Foolishness, Capcom. Foolishness.

 

[ThePS1Fan]

I don't feel like looking for it but I swear I called this a few months ago.
Edit: I did find it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.385026-Vergil-confirmed-for-DmC?page=2#15296102

 

[KeyMaster45]

I only vaguely remember playing the first DMC on my sister's PS1, but I remember it was okay. I've also never been a big fan of capcom; they just don't make any games that interest me. Watching this fandom shit-storm from the sidelines though? Whoo boy, this has been a trip; that they're releasing an old Dante skin in pay-for-DLC is just the icing on the delicious cake of rage that they and their fandom have been creating.

 

[Steve Waltz]

I would have found it a benevolent action if it wasn't for the price.

Ninja Theory changed Dante's look and that irritated players, so Capcom released a DLC to fix it. I like their response to that, but goodness, not at that price! I *would* have found it a benevolent thing, adding a change to fix what fans demand, I *would* have... if it wasn't such an overpriced DLC. Unless those models have their own animations I'll be darned if that's a fair price. Making new model/skins aren't devastating work, and while I don't know how much effort is involved in coding those new models into the game and testing the changes, but with such a brutal price it really seems like Capcom's taking advantage of the fans' demands instead of trying to please them with this DLC.

 

[Easton Dark]

Capcom is the DLC scumlord of all the publishers, even Activision.

Fuck you, Capcom.

How's the edgy joke with the mop on his head going to work now, huh?

I don't see the issue. You don't have to buy it, you can play with the new Dante (and honestly, I don't see him being that bad of a character design).

People complain way to much about his damn look. Hell, the original games weren't even all that good outside the core gameplay.

That's not even the issue.

How's the edgy joke with the mop on his head going to work now, huh?

easily, as it stands the costumes dont actually show up during cutscenes, whether that changes at launch I couldn't say.

So he says he'll never look like that, then he looks like that. For four dollars no less.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I would have found it a benevolent action if it wasn't for the price.

It's a $4 player skin! Regardless of what people think of Dante's new look this is outrageous. A single fuckin' skin and they can't even make that free. And knowing Capcom I wouldn't be surprised if it's already on the fuckin' disk.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

The fact that they are selling this as DLC sickens me. I'd hardly call it "classic" Dante. It's new Dante with classic Dante's haircut, and it looks ridiculous. And what the fuck is up with that horrendous costume in the 2nd picture?

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

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To be honest it seems to me that everyone has hated Dante's look once they changed it from the original. I'm kind of amazed Capcom hasn't just done the rational thing and just put the series the way people want it. I personally can't get behind it being "all a scam to sell DLC" since it seems to have been going on far too long.

I'll also say that this article in an offhanded way could be taken as a slam on reviewers. To be honest I think there is a problem when a reviewer evaluates whether a product is good or not purely on it's own merits as a game when there are other issues involved. To be honest when your dealing with franchises and ongoing intellectual properties the characters and how they are treated is part of the overall property. A game that might play well, but is disrespectful to the established continuity and characters, deserves to be slammed on those elements. Beyond a certain point you have to make the distinction between whether something is a good game, and whether something is a good game of X label. If a game decides to slap a franchise or series name on something but changes so much that it no longer resemebles or continues to build on previous parts of the series, that should be viewed as an epic failure, and scores should reflect that.

I point this out because as time goes on I'm becoming increasingly irritated to hearing how something "reviewed well" despite outrage from the fans. Perhaps the most epic example of this being "Mass Effect 3". If a reviewer doesn't get what the big deal is, and his reviews and criticisms reflect this, and he might outright say "I don't understand the big deal" I increasingly feel that's a sign that someone doesn't belong reviewing. A reviewer is supposed to be telling the fans, the users, if they are going to like a product or not. As a professional your allegedly supposed to be tied into the pulse of gaming enough to make an informed desician. If there is a massive group of people complaining, and someone even overreacts to the point of a presidential petition, and your reviewing the game highly... well obviously your out of touch and not doing your job well since your score is hardly reflecting the reality. This is also part of why you see people becoming so hostile towards reviewers, and increasingly focusing on how their livelyhood, or perhaps more accuratly that of their hosts, is tied to the industry, and the technique of padding review scores in hopes that high reviews and good hype can turn that into reality virally since it's worked before, but is becoming harder to do as reality increases.

I think a good reviewer today is not just someone who can say whether a game works well on a technical level, and how good it is on it's own merits, but understands things like how what color the jacket of the protaganist of an ongoing series is can actually make all the differance and why that is. If you don't understand this, and it seems like I'm talking alien to you or way out in left field, your kind of demonstrating why you shouldn't be a reviewer.

A bit lengthy and in an odd direction given the article, but it's largely what I thought of in reading this. Truthfully I've never been a big DMC fan, but I'm aware of the issues, and honestly I don't like people messing with my favorite franchises and characters that way either (as I've gone off about in other cases). This article mentions the uproar over the game, as well as the review scores, so I think it serves as a good example of the overall problem, which I think actually came to a head during the entire "Mass Effect 3" fiasco (which is still ongoing) with critics, reviewers, and inudtry watchdogs somehow not really getting how an ending can decimate not only an otherwise solid product, but an entire franchise retroactively.

Given the fan reaction the first question when dealing with a game series or franchise is whether it's a true continuation of that franchise, above and beyond anything. If someone trots out "Devil May Cry" but with rebooting, a main character that doesn't even look the same way anymore, etc... that should automatically be a "fail" before it even enters consideration because it's not truely the product it's claiming to be. Sort of like the differance between an action figure of "Spider Man" and one of "Spider Warrior"... the Japanese Knockoff. Sure it looks vaguely similar, and might be a perfectly servicable toy that functions just as well as an actual "Spider Man" one, and might even have a few extra points of articulation that could make it better, but at the end of the day it's not "Spider Man" and your kid who is a Spidey fan is not going to accept it as the same thing even if you paint the name "Spider Man" accross the chest. You failed to please your child, the toy sucks, as he is the final arbitor of whether it's good or not. As a parent if you thought it was "good" or "the same thing" you failed in your analysis if you thought so genuinely (as opposed to trying to save a few bucks) just as a reviewer fails when he say tries to pass off a counterfeit Dante with the franchise name emblazoned on it as the real thing.

Thank you Therumancer for saying what I could not express in my own words.
What he said is pretty much what we should be paying attention to and not simply pile on the "haters gonna hate/get over it" logic.

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I'm getting real sick of this "You don't have to play it" or "The originals weren't that good" or "Just get over it" attitude.
It's an IP, one with fans. People enjoyed it for what it was and it made money for the people who made it. There was no reason for this mess of a reboot. Because the term "reboot" is a complete cop out. It's just a scam to slap a name on an IP no one thought had the legs to run on its own. It's a money-making scheme.
There was no reason this DMC shite, couldn't have been a sequel. Think about it, the last game in the franchise was on this generation of consoles, and a HD re-release of the first 3 was still on shelves. And you know what that would have changed for the people with the opinions expressed in quotations above?
FUCKING NOTHING!

The fans would still have had the story they wanted, the characters they love, they'd have been happy. And everyone else would have had exactly the same game, they could have enjoyed it too. But no. No, instead what we have is a product which splits the community neatly in two. Not only does this benefit Capcom who make money from those who will buy Ninja Theory's DMC out of spite to the rest of the community (these assholes do exist). But it also directly detriments the community as a whole since we're left to squabble among ourselves in prolonged pissing matches and cat fights.

This is insanity people! What ever happened to people just getting well made games that we can enjoy, and playing them? When did this become a battle of epically retarded proportions? There is so much bile and so many toxic attitudes in our community that it's killing us. We need to clean house people, we need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask ourselves what the fuck we're doing. Because the "community" as is it, it's just not acceptable.

Rant fin.

ScruffyMcBalls understands what's going on here and I have for a while so like he said why can't we act like a community rather than spending our time literally trying to divide ourselves and letting the Capcom do the same.

Really no one shout be spouting "get over it already" or any other phrases common to that because it shows you don't care what the originals think and just wish to stamp all over them which again ends up causing these pointless little piss fights and it really, really needs to stop.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

The fact that they are selling this as DLC sickens me. I'd hardly call it "classic" Dante. It's new Dante with classic Dante's haircut, and it looks ridiculous. And what the fuck is up with that horrendous costume in the 2nd picture?

And yet they said Dante would get laughed out of a bar with the way he dressed

 

[ShirowShirow]

I'll buy the game and the DLC if the skin also make Nu-Dante less of an amoral douchebag who thinks gratuitous swearing constitutes witty banter.