I'm quietly hoping that Red Skull will make a return some day. Partly because it's Hugo Weaving, and also because the possibility of a Red Skull with cosmic powers is too much fun to ignore.Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I just hate the fact that this movie is gonna be #1 on everone's "Worst movie of 2016" list even though so far there are going to be even worse movies than this in the coming months (Star Trek Beyond and Ghostbusters)fix-the-spade said:
No but what exactly is he returning too? Hydra is all but dead we saw the last of their core facilities getting taken out in the last episode of Agents Of Shield and their last leader was killed by Daisy and whatever is left of it i.e thier cash is under the control of Grant Ward (The Inhuman The HIVE) and the rest of his Inhuman buddies. I doubt Hyrda will be making a return more likely the Inhumans will take the place of Hydra as a bigger more focused enemy, would also tie in with the Inhumans movie coming in 2018.
Its definitely a plot thread that was left fairly open. I mean more or less Loki fell out in much the same way during Thor, and he came back. Red Skull is one of those villains who shouldn't be killed off like that. Keep him under wraps and let him show up when least expected.fix-the-spade said:
Hello, Mr. Snyder, how are you? Let's be frank here: Potshots always get taken, one way or another. If a movie brings about the displeasure of most of its audience, then far more potshots will be taken.IOwnTheSpire said:
Until the end, when Cap realized he'd proven the other side's argument for them as the collateral damage of both sides' battle caused a city to burn around them and surrenders out of guilt. But sure, up until that point it did seem lopsided as all hell.Zontar said:
1.No commmentCaramel Frappe said:
and goes in to an all out must kill Superman decision based on stupid reasons and then reinforced by dreams. Seriously his motivations are beyond dumb, he goes from nought to kill without at any point ever even trying or showing that he had tried to understand what Superman was doing during that fight.
Right at the start of that fight Sups lands, gets attacked by Batman and his supersonic projectors (by the way nice steal from Incredible Hulk with that one.) and his auto turrets Superman takes it and instead of just standing his ground and telling Batman why he is there he decides to give batman a bit of slap before telling him why he is there?
Yeah then you have Batman Vs Superman which kind of proves that Dark and Edgy doesn't always make for a better story
How was his motivation grey, he flat out tells you that he wants to rebuild Krypton on Earth and when that fails he turns in to generic I will kill everyone bad dude, his motivations weren't grey at all at no point did he question what he was doing, consider alternatives see anyone elses side or show any conflict on what he was doing, he had a plan and went at it. He was so obvious in what he was doing the movie actually has Superman say that he didn't trust him after hearing his initial Earth broadcast.
Have you watched the movie, because Team Cap loses. Cap and Bucky only got away because Widow betrayed them and Vision fucked up and took out Warmachine. Also, Ant-man is a much bigger powerhouse than you think.irishda said:
The best moment of the HISHE series on YouTube was when Loki pointed out that Zod should have just terraformed Mars.Laughing Man said:
We can talk about Snyder visuals when he tells post to stop smearing every frame with the 300 filterSamtemdo8 said:
You're so wrong.irishda said:
Interesting that you say that because amongst my friends, no one would have picked Iron man's side. The whole premise that the Avenger's need to be reigned in because "they cause destruction" is a position without a pulse; it's like blaming firefighters for the collateral damage created by fires. If the accords were merely oversight, I would have definitely been on Stark's side but they wanted control over the Avengers both in what they would or would not be doing.talker said:
Exactly. The Avengers aren't cops, firefighter, military, or anything like that which have the time and means to be directed and their power checked, they are an elite group of Superheroes that are brought in when it hits the fan so badly that a few people dying as collateral damage is nothing compared to what would happen if they didn't do something and whom are the only ones able to do something, just like the situation the movie opens with. The fact that the Avengers are there means they've hit a point similar to how and why people in monster movies decide bringing in Godzilla to fight the current monster is a better idea than just leaving the monster there or continuously making futile attempts to get rid of it, bringing in the Avengers isn't something done because another less likely to be harmful response is a realistic option. The Avengers don't have the time to deal with dozens of politicians spending weeks arguing if they should have the Avengers do something and/or what all the time, nor can they or should they have to deal with each of those politicians having reason besides "save as many people as humanly or inhumanly possible" as their motivation behind allowing the Avengers to go superheroing, and that's if they don't just use them as their personal hit squad of ignorant assassins never told what they need to in order to realize what they are doing is bad. Tony's position lost all weight when it's made clear that the registration is not just about oversight but about giving the U.N. the legal power to precisely control when, where, or even if the Avengers can do ANYTHING. If anyone should have that kind of control over the Avengers it should be a truly neutral party that unlike something like the U.N. has no personal stake in anything the Avengers do, could do, nor have been directly harmed or benefited from anything they have done except in the most broad sense that they have saved the whole planet, and should have at least one like party as a backup to replace them if that situation changes so that they are no longer neutral.Gorrath said:
I honestly am with you here, I think having him operate the way he did was absolutely perfect. Was it the comic character? No but then again who is really attached to Zemo? He is one of the few characters that came up with an intelligent plan to take out his enemies, never didn't bother having it be theatrical, and didn't just chase pulling the trigger himself. He doesn't try to take out anybody out in a fist fight, he simply outsmarts them. In a way that makes him one of the more interesting marvel villains. Hell even the Joker in Dark Knight fights Batman hand to hand at points when he really didn't have to. Zemo only pushes the plot when he needs to. No big bombastic speeches, no needlessly flaunting his plan. I honestly liked the way they played this.Super Cyborg said:
I'd check out Christopher Priest's run at him. Also watch Earth's Mightiest Hero's. That's actually a really good version of the character.Diablo1099 said: