CD Projekt: "Let's Treat Gamers as Grown-ups"

chadachada123

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Damn, I was hoping from the headline that they were speaking in terms of gameplay.

Games like Call of Duty (actually, the vast majority of shooters and action games) treat us like small children, and most developers seem to think that we gamers couldn't maneuver or explore our way out of a box.

I was hoping for a repeat of this, but said from a developer (the relevant part starts at about 1:30:


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Still, the developer is right. We aren't children, and we aren't (all) thieves. Some respect would be nice once in awhile.
 

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anthony87 said:
CD Projekt, there's one photo that comes to mind when I think of them....

Abso-fucking-lutely perfect.
At least there will always be an opposite to the idiocy of EA and Zynga
 

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@boudica, am I supposed to be shocked into a dull stupor over that picture?

Woman in a provocative pose, more news at 11
Treat gamers as "grown ups", I don't see the problem
 

DustyDrB

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Draconian: A word I've only ever seen when it is followed by "DRM". That's right, DRM sucks so bad that it made the word "draconian" a household term.

Irridium said:
They're not really buttering us up. All they're doing is not treating their customers with contempt like most others. It's not really pure benevolence, more just treating people like people, and not as walking, drooling wallets that are ripe for the picking.
Yep. It's like praising a store owner for not slapping you in the face when you make a purchase. CD Projekt just seems capable of learning, unlike every other dev/pub who just tightens their grip more and more with every passing year.
 

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CardinalPiggles said:
Does anyone else feel like they're trying desperately hard to gather a sort of cult fan base. Of course I appreciate their respect for the industry and for gamers, but it's weird seeing a company that can do absolutely nothing wrong.

Like Valve isn't perfect, and Steam has a thin layer of DRM, but CDP RED seem to be entirely benevolent 100% of the time, and it's a little disconcerting.
They have only one flaw: Their games are very buggy and imbalanced on release. I've only played The Witcher 1 & 2's enhanced editions, so I never had to deal with it.

I'm torn between supporting them and pre-ordering their cyberpunk game when it'll be possible and waiting for them to make the enhanced edition of it.
 

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Cognimancer said:
CD Projekt RED's Konrad Tomaszkiewics

Tomaszkiewics answered

Tomaszkiewics said

Tomaszkiewics explained

Tomaszkiewics assures
Is there some reason you "corrected" the spelling of his name to be incorrect? As someone who's at least nominally Polish myself, it was at least mildly annoying every time I saw Tomaszkiewics instead of Tomaszkiewicz while reading it. Yes, we spell things funny. I have a "cz" in my name too. Heh.
 

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Boudica said:
Pretty much the reason I can't stand the Witcher games. When they say gamers they really mean 'men'

I won't be buying their next RPG if it doesn't have the choice of a female protag tbh.

I fully respect their sentiment about the DLC but if they have a similarly sexist setting in Lords of the Fallen I will be disappoint.
 

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The Witcher isn't my cup of tea, but freakin BRAVO! This is rare to see these days. A company actually treating their customers properly. That instantly wins me over. Total prop to these guys, I'll find a way to support them one way or another. Definitely going to be keeping my eye on them.
 

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Boudica said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Boudica said:
Pretty much the reason I can't stand the Witcher games. When they say gamers they really mean 'men'

I won't be buying their next RPG if it doesn't have the choice of a female protag tbh.

I fully respect their sentiment about the DLC but if they have a similarly sexist setting in Lords of the Fallen I will be disappoint.
Sex is fine (I love sex). Nudity is fine (the human body is normal and beautiful). A man having sex with a lot of women is fine (consensual acts). But when you actually reduce women to sex objects to be conquered via multiple choice dialog options, with the correct pattern resulting in them dropping their panties and turning into a sex card?

I'd sooner give money to a group that directly spits in my face.
Indeed, I love RPG's but playing The Witcher just made me want to vomit. The fact that it was just non stop pandering to guys bothered me too. I hope to god their cyberpunk rpg isn't like that.

They have no excuse to make people as sexist in a futuristic setting and they have been super evasive about whether you will be able to play as a woman.

I didn't buy The Witcher 2 and I won't be buying their new RPG's if you can't play as a woman (mostly because it will make me uneasy that it will be The Witcher all over again)
 

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Boudica said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Boudica said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Boudica said:
Pretty much the reason I can't stand the Witcher games. When they say gamers they really mean 'men'

I won't be buying their next RPG if it doesn't have the choice of a female protag tbh.

I fully respect their sentiment about the DLC but if they have a similarly sexist setting in Lords of the Fallen I will be disappoint.
Sex is fine (I love sex). Nudity is fine (the human body is normal and beautiful). A man having sex with a lot of women is fine (consensual acts). But when you actually reduce women to sex objects to be conquered via multiple choice dialog options, with the correct pattern resulting in them dropping their panties and turning into a sex card?

I'd sooner give money to a group that directly spits in my face.
Indeed, I love RPG's but playing The Witcher just made me want to vomit. The fact that it was just non stop pandering to guys bothered me too. I hope to god their cyberpunk rpg isn't like that.

They have no excuse to make people as sexist in a futuristic setting and they have been super evasive about whether you will be able to play as a woman.
Moonlight, we did it! We finally agreed on something lol :p
We must have unlocked some sort of achivement. :p

I have no problem with sex in games but in The Witcher it just felt so skeevy and one sided like the male version of Twilight or something. I hope that makes sense.
 

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Boudica said:
Pretty much the reason I can't stand the Witcher games. When they say gamers they really mean 'men'

I won't be buying their next RPG if it doesn't have the choice of a female protag tbh.

I fully respect their sentiment about the DLC but if they have a similarly sexist setting in Lords of the Fallen I will be disappoint.
To be fair, while the 1st game was one sided I think they realise they have a female audience as well now. Geralt ends up chained in nothing but leather pants more than once...

Iorveths dream looks like a scene out of a bad romance novel (which is hilarious if you know what he is actually saying in it)

And sexist setting does not necessarily equal sexist characters. There are some bad ass females too.

Although I was annoyed at how often they used the rape card (yes I know rape did happen a lot), how they treated Ves, the levels of fan service on Iorveths path and the fact they play up lesbians as fan service while the one gay guy is made to be as disgusting as possible though I don't know that this was delibrate.
 

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This is a company I want to support, but I can't because my PC can't run their products, and I only own a PS3.
RhombusHatesYou said:
GenGenners said:
I love CD Projekt, I just wish more of their work could be found on PS3 :/
Which game from their massive catalogue of two titles would you like to see?
How about both of them?
They're willing to bring the Enhanced Edition to the 360, so why not port it to PS3?
 

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I'm not the biggest fan of The Witcher series (traditional, Tolkein-esque fantasy just doesn't hit my buttons), but as far as them as a company goes, my god I love CD Projekt Red. If I had to choose between GoG and Steam, I'd choose GoG. Luckily we don't have to choose! We can have both! Which is good cos I love Valve a whole bunch! But CD Projekt Red is equal with them as far as my respect goes. So they're absolutely right.

I am keeping my eye on them because... they're just great. I don't think anyone can reasonably say that they treat their consumers poorly. They're just brilliant. Love ya, CD Projekt Red. ...now fix the Saints Row 2 PC port please.
 

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This absolutely makes me want to buy The Witcher 1/2, neither of which I've had much interest in before.

I also want to pre-order Cyberpunk... Also having little clue what it's about.

Damn these respectful business practices. It's like we've been exposed to so much junk in the industry that anytime someone steps up and says 'hey, we care!' I can't help but want to throw money and support their way.

Brain washing I say!