Celebrate old Escapists! The war against the newbies has been won!

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Um, that's cool, I guess.

I didn't realize that this was a big damn deal, but alright.

Also, I would like to point out that we need the new people to keep this place around, and while it's sad to not see the older peeps post more in forums, it's not the end of the world if they don't post much. I mean, I know a few of them are in user groups now because they're just rather not deal with the forums, or they just want to hang out with a few posters that they're friends with for a bit in UG.

Or it could be, ya know, the older crowd having other things to do, and maybe don't have as much time as they used to, and the new people do.

As for "the war", I think it's pretty damn silly, and you should try to not be silly, you silly billy.

 

[Jack Action]

Newbie drunken clockwork alligator, reporting for duty!

I'm not gonna stop being annoying just because you people have seniority.

 

[Something Amyss]

"If you want to make enemies, try to change something."

Or in gaming, if you want to make enemies, try suggesting that you don't have to be a complete asshole.

I don't really think it's your place to lecture the homosexual on homophobia, dear.

Really? Could you explain to me precisely what my place is?

 

[Something Amyss]

Also, I would like to point out that we need the new people to keep this place around, and while it's sad to not see the older peeps post more in forums, it's not the end of the world if they don't post much.

I'm reminded of that Duck Dodgers cartoon where Daffy and Marvin fight basically until the planet is a clump of dirt and then Daffy declares himself victor.

But seriously, you need old people posting as well as new people because without old posters, new people either see a ghost town and don't sign up or don't hang around long. You need old people around to last long enough for the new people to become old people and replace them.

And, I mean, seriously, without our charm and wit, why would anyone sign up? >.>

 

[Albino Boo]

Commissar Barbs I hereby order you to take these recent joiners to the basement for reeducation. Its the inevitable victory of the science of old joiners.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Also, I would like to point out that we need the new people to keep this place around, and while it's sad to not see the older peeps post more in forums, it's not the end of the world if they don't post much.

I'm reminded of that Duck Dodgers cartoon where Daffy and Marvin fight basically until the planet is a clump of dirt and then Daffy declares himself victor.

But seriously, you need old people posting as well as new people because without old posters, new people either see a ghost town and don't sign up or don't hang around long. You need old people around to last long enough for the new people to become old people and replace them.

No, I agree.

You need the old farts to keep this place going and make it an awesome place, and have it so the new peeps want to keep it up. It's all circular, but I guess I just don't see it as the worst thing in the world if the older guys don't post as much as they used to for whatever reason. Like work or whatever.

And, I mean, seriously, without our charm and wit, why would anyone sign up? >.>

Wait, we have charm?

Man, I must have rolled shitily. >.>

 

[Tatsuki]

Well this is just... I was in a... But I didn't...

Just awwwwwww.
Join a site I like and apparently I'm still a loser.
Well time to start up a resistance.

 

[Something Amyss]

You need the old farts to keep this place going and make it an awesome place, and have it so the new peeps want to keep it up. It's all circular, but I guess I just don't see it as the worst thing in the world if the older guys don't post as much as they used to for whatever reason. Like work or whatever.

It wouldn't matter so much if it didn't look like the circle was collapsing in on itself. Otherwise, it's basic attrition. Which is cool.

And, I mean, seriously, without our charm and wit, why would anyone sign up? >.>

Wait, we have charm?

Man, I must have rolled shitily. >.>

That expains why I'm so overtaxed!

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I rarely pay attention to joined dates when reading posts unless one seems a bit "off" from the regular style of posting. Its not anything to do with that two letter abbreviated issue some people continue to talk about that I won't mention except in passing. It rather seems that "newbies" most of the time are not aware of how this forum has evolved in the past. I can tell just by reading a post if someone is "new" to the forum, I don't know how.

Anyway OT: I had no clue, and don't really care now that I'm informed, that there was a war. I honestly have been more willing to welcome fresh faces as long as they add to discussions and do not get salty or full of odd rhetoric that derails threads. Everyone was a newb somewhere, and we can't be salty towards them. Its not right IMO, we should help them, be their shepherds, their partners in this Journey through the wastelands of Escapist's forum. If we do not guide them, then they will become lost.

We must also be careful not to instill bias in them from our own views. Rather we should just be a guidance, and help them avoid moderator wrath and the ever-looming banhammer of Damocles hanging overhead.

No, there should not be a war here, we need not act like Ghandi from Civilization and form alliances only to nuke them into radioactive dust. Save the wars for when we really need to act, and be open to new folks.

I will reiterate: You all were once "newbies" as well, and your join date coupled with your posts may only mean you've wasted a lot of time here. I'll admit that I waste my time on Escapist, I've been here a decent amount of time, surprisingly enough, but it means nothing in the end.

./rant
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[Grayjack]

I haven't posted in years, and I had no idea there was a war.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

I think some people here are taking the OP a bit too seriously...

Also, can we maybe not bring in derailing and passive aggressive posts to the thread about the loss, and rationale for said losing, of newer forum members?

Unless the point is to...I dunno...illustrate why this is happening?

 

[RedRockRun]

Remember when there used to always be those threads where people would complain how there weren't any old users anymore, and everybody had a join date newer than so-and-so? Well, we don't have that problem anymore! Nearly everybody who still posts here has a join date older than 2013 with most being 2008-2011.

I just checked the first page of each thread on the first page of Off-Topic and tallied everybody who had a join date from 2014-2015:

Total Posts: 539
Posts from users with join dates 2014-2015: 58
Individual users with join dates 2014-2015: 35
Percentage of posts from users with join dates 2014-2015: 10%

For comparison I did the same thing with the first page of Off-Topic from August 16, 2011 [http://web.archive.org/web/20110816093450/http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/index/18-Off-topic-Discussion]:

Total Posts: 602
Posts from users with join dates 2010-2011: 356
Percentage of posts from users with join dates 2010-2011: 59%

So how do you feel about winning the war against the newbies?

Eh, I've been here awhile, but I still feel like a noob, given I don't post much XD

Nice Dashie avatar btw OP! /)

 

[EHKOS]

Wow. I joined five years ago. That kind of blows my mind. It also explains why I'm burnt out on posting.

 

[Sleepy Sol]

Well, that really kinda sucks. But kind of obvious given how slow the forums are nowadays and the only reason to continue coming here being attachment to this particular forum.

...Can I have my "oldie" badge yet? I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle without a pre-2010 join date.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Finally, my plan is coming to fruition.

OT: My guess for this is because the higher-ups didn't replace the quality that left with much even close to the quality of those that left. Of the new stuff, I only read Marter's Movie Reviews. Even the big-name stuff like Game Theory is behind YouTube, which sure as shit isn't going to bring anyone from YouTube to here.

 

[FoolKiller]

Regardless of join date, I'm sad by the gradual decline of my once favourite (most frequented) site. I would imagine the exodus of many people was due to the decline in amount and quality of content. I came during the mass ZP craze. And I stayed for a long time just because I watched it weekly. I moved on to other stuff. I then went and reread some older things like Experienced Points that I never followed before. I follow that now.

I also used to like reading the news here but there are now some that do such a bad job of reporting that its offensive. Unresearched articles with factual errors and judgmental tones where none need to be.

 

[Barbas]

Commissar Barbs I hereby order you to take these recent joiners to the basement for reeducation. Its the inevitable victory of the science of old joiners.

Hmmmmm. I could always just say they were ban jumpers later. However, we no longer do such things. That was the old days, funnily enough - a couple of years before you joined. I understand that the standard practice for most offences was a ban notice that appeared in your inbox reading "GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!"

Personally I have nothing against the old nor new users. If anything, it's all about their beliefs, personality, and agenda that matters to me. A poster with only one post can be more modest & sincere about gaming then someone with 30k posts whom belittles, insults, and fights people over nothing. So take what you will of that.

Surprisingly often that such is the case.

As a new guy, I wasn't aware this was a thing, but now I have been informed that I lost a war.... of some kind...

Now I'm depressed.

Don't be, you're standing here. Congratulations - you won!

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

I'm pretty sure most of the new users make a bee-line straight to Game Industry Discussion. I'm curious what the makeup would be in there, I imagine it'd be about 50/50

I resent that. Just because I'm a rogue doesn't mean I take anything that isn't nailed down.

...it also has to be shiny!

Nails can be shiny. And they're typically not nailed down. Plus, taking them often adds to the set of things that aren't nailed down

 

[Barbas]

Yeah, but is it active at least?

Not as active as the Escapist itself. Doesn't go by the site's name - that'd be rather odd for a SubReddit, anyway.

 

[PsychicTaco115]

Joke's on you, I dodged the draft

As a wise man once said, Fuck the Draft

I think we can all learn a thing or two from that