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MrHide-Patten

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I check in very now and again for the weekly ZP and Liana's stuff but as others have said, I've stopped stalking the forums as I once did.
 

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Belaam said:
What I got from most of the "gamers are dead" articles was that so many people game now that it is a pointless identifier. I literary don't know a person in my family who doesn't play video games in some form, whether they be complex RPGs or quick, time wasting Tetris-esque games. "Hi, I'm a gamer" is just as useless as "Hi, I'm a driver" or "Hi, I'm a TV and movie watcher".
This is a valid point when phrased the way you do. But we do get people saying that they are Trekkies, even today though that leans towards the older generation. We have Whovians if we want to get more recent. Harry Potter fans may identify with their favorite Hogwarts house. Soon we'll be getting into more popular discussions on which side the fans lean on Marvel's Civil War arc.

It's almost supporting of my original argument that 'gamers' are a more accepting bunch when it comes to fandoms when you think that really, the moniker itself covers the entire spectrum of games and there can be various kinds of gamers all capable of accepting one another under the same general hobby identifier. At our root, we started as a niche interest and now have grown to become a simple household thing.

My criticism of the articles was the uniformity of that message that the identifier was useless, as you say, and that they were trying to justify abandoning it by citing all the negatives associated with it. They took it into the opposite of my recommended course of action - citing how broad our identifier is, embracing that fact as part of how we can be accepting and open, and using it to unify those that do to help clean up the mess that commonly gets associated with it.

Instead the way the articles were written ended up having the opposite effect - we feel more divided now, more jaded, and we're struggling against even more misbehavior on all fronts.

Anyways, viewpoint wise, I understand the perspective you have on the article. But I fundamentally disagree with the article on several points and that their attempt to divorce themselves and their audience from the identifier was in error, much the same way as some choice 2009-2010 members here are trying to divorce themselves from newer adapters.

Over lengthy attempt to draw parallels, in short. Neither approach is ultimately healthy for the overall communities they are referencing.
 

FalloutJack

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*Blink*

Sorry, there was a war? I was just punching people and getting drunk.
 

Something Amyss

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FalloutJack said:
*Blink*

Sorry, there was a war? I was just punching people and getting drunk.
You must have blacked out.

I mean, what you managed to do with the ferret and the chainsaws was a work of art. A shame you missed it.
 

FalloutJack

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Something Amyss said:
FalloutJack said:
*Blink*

Sorry, there was a war? I was just punching people and getting drunk.
You must have blacked out.

I mean, what you managed to do with the ferret and the chainsaws was a work of art. A shame you missed it.
All in a day's work for Baron Von Madness, I guess. Another round, everybody?
 

Reed Spacer

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I don't even bother with this site anymore because I'm afraid someone will take something I say out of context or just decide they don't like my opinion and I'll get another strike on my account.

It's not worth the hassle for me.
 

Tryforlive

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Wow I didn't even think it had been this long but 2009 is when I joined... years go by too fast for my liking.
 

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I don't know. I stopped being a regular when it turned into a SJ battleground.

It was particularly bad on these forums - probably due to the types of articles this site traffic in.

I felt I was being manipulated by flamebait article after flamebait article, creating explosive thread after explosive thread - like I was being taken for a ride so they can pad their page views.

Won't be surprised that many new users were here just to partake in the SJ flame war. (Those that weren't, took one look at the site and fled. LOL)

Now that the whole thing has died down, despite the best efforts of its "professionals", the "new users" just left.
 

Something Amyss

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DeanCain said:


I don't know what's real and what's imaginary any more. Up is down, black is white...
Stick with me, newbie. I'll red pill you yet. And then, you will join us as an oldie.
 

FalloutJack

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DeanCain said:
I'm not sure, but apparently I did this absolutely wonderful stunt with ferrets and a chainsaw...or was it just one ferret and seven chainsaws? Well, no matter. It still happened. And if you don't believe me, you can ask my cohort, Whifflestomp Jackson, who...is passed out upside-down in a keg right now.

Incidentally, were you aware that a buttload was a measurement for wine barrels?
 

FalloutJack

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DeanCain said:
Something Amyss said:
Stick with me, newbie. I'll red pill you yet. And then, you will join us as an oldie.
Yay! I'll practice the ceremonial dance!


FalloutJack said:
Incidentally, were you aware that a buttload was a measurement for wine barrels?
I was not, but I did know that a metric fuckton was a measurement for mayonnaise volume.
Really? Tell me, is that a different measurement from a regular fuckton? If so, what was it used upon?
 

FalloutJack

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DeanCain said:
FalloutJack said:
Really? Tell me, is that a different measurement from a regular fuckton? If so, what was it used upon?
Yes, only America still uses the regular fuckton (you know how they are about the metric system). And...mayonnaise? <_<
It's because of football. They tried the metric system there and it sucked, so they changed it back and never gave it another thought.
 

FalloutJack

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DeanCain said:
FalloutJack said:
It's because of football. They tried the metric system there and it sucked, so they changed it back and never gave it another thought.
Ugh. I'm actually in the US, and it drives me nuts. But I work in a field that uses metric so I'm probably biased.
Guessing that's not a football field you're in. Priorities and all.
 

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Barbas said:
IceForce said:
On other forums around the internet, it's not uncommon to see people with join dates more than a decade old. There's one particular forum I also frequent where almost all of the regulars have join dates 2003-2005.

Why does The Escapist have such a (comparatively) high turnover of users? Is it because people get bored of it quickly? Is it the moderation? Perhaps it's because people tend to join this site when they're fairly young IRL, and grow out of this place after a few years.
I'm not really sure the reason...
The site's forums haven't been around for all that long. They got started some time in 2006, IIRC, which was as far back as threads with comments in will currently load for me. Earliest join date I saw was 2004, I think, belonging to someone who helped put the site together. A lot of people joined back then and simply don't post in the forums, ergo they aren't seen as much nowadays. The mute white faces are legion.
Let's not forget Mythrandia:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Mythrandia
Some members were part of that other forum that got merged with the Escapist, rare though.
 

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NiPah said:
Let's not forget Mythrandia:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Mythrandia
Some members were part of that other forum that got merged with the Escapist, rare though.
Yes, let's never forget Mythrandia. Greatest wizard of an age, the hero of Asheron's Call, who visited our humble forums to share page upon page of arcane wisdom.