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Am I gonna have to slap up a biotch? No seriously, all in good taste, lets somehow attempt to keep this thread on track. But however shall we do it?
 

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galletea post=18.72819.774210 said:
I agree, and I think the main problem with censors is determining boundaries. Who is too decide when the public cannot be exposed to some idea? If it continues they will err on the safe side so many times that there will no longer be freedom of expression in an attempt to protect us.
The public is supposed to decide, by influencing the elections and standards of the people who are chosen to be sensors.

As for sex VS violence, violence is a lot easier to explain away and doesn't trigger the same problems. For example, how many kids have been punched in the face and turned out fine compared to how many of them have been f*cked turned out not so fine?
 

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ward. post=18.72819.774645 said:
The public is supposed to decide, by influencing the elections and standards of the people who are chosen to be sensors.
Unfortunately it isn't as simple as that, for one reason, Politicians and council heads will often lie. While we constantly struggle to get a R rating in Australia for video games, just one politician not agreeing with it will ruin it for us.
The people cannot force a politician and persuasion is not a simple process. Than there is always the case of say, older aged figures not liking a certain aspect of something so they will rally against it, while there may be a younger group that says there is nothing wrong with it. It continues from there on in until some stupid agreement is decided that really only one side would have agreed on. Quite the rant there.
While the people will always have a voice, it can always be silenced or simply ignored.
 

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I love the topic of Scientology and their Internet censorship. The fact that they elude the eye of most people to is annoying and upsetting because most people should really know about this.

When your religion is censoring everything about their religion and threatening people with death who expose anything, it should be payed attention too.
 

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If its bad enough to be censored its good enough to be seen/heard/played/read/corresponding verb here.
 

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neoman10 post=18.72819.774718 said:
Any of you notice the censorship of the word shit in Mercs 2?
I definitely have. You would expect in a game where you can fill a van with C4 and drive it into a building and fulfill your terroristic desires they would atleast allow the world sh#t?
 

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Oh my god... Harold Shipman was a distant uncle of mine...

At least I never met him.
 

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Overwatch -reports anti-civil actions. Confiscate, censor, protect, judge.
Reminder: Inaction is conspiracy. Report all anti-civil actions to your local civil protection team.
 

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Dommyboy post=18.72819.774735 said:
neoman10 post=18.72819.774718 said:
Any of you notice the censorship of the word shit in Mercs 2?
I definitely have. You would expect in a game where you can fill a van with C4 and drive it into a building and fulfill your terroristic desires they would atleast allow the world sh#t?
I agree, I think they toned down everything to be "kid" friendly
 

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Zallest post=18.72819.774683 said:
I love the topic of Scientology and their Internet censorship. The fact that they elude the eye of most people to is annoying and upsetting because most people should really know about this.

When your religion is censoring everything about their religion and threatening people with death who expose anything, it should be payed attention too.
Yeah censorship never happened with any religion in the past did it? Its actually quite annoying all this anti scientology stuff. Most religions started out in the same way, christiany was a secretive mystery cult in Ancient rome and was infact regarded as a terrorist organisation by the Romans. Just because they go about things in a different way doesnt mean they dont have something meaningful to say. By the way Im an Odinist who hates organised religion, but I also hate hypocracy.

Even if Scientology did start as a bet between 2 sci fi authors and they believe in space aliens, Christians believe in Multiplying bread and fishes and alcoholic water. I believe that language was created when someone dangled from their ankles over a pool of water and tore out one of their eyes. Different strokes for different folks
 

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Khell_Sennet post=18.72819.774825 said:
Zallest post=18.72819.774417 said:
Are we taking into the account the "To soon" factor of censorship? like how you can't making jokes because it was to soon and won't be funny because the event is still fresh in the mind?

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Is this about internet censorship? where the "To soon" factor doesn't apply (See Assholes Handbook page 257) and any and every joke is made to offend and enjoy?

Personally i think some things should be censored for a while...
I'd say its about censorship overall, not that too soon factor.

I for one abhor censorship. Parental controls are iffy grounds but until you are smart enough to bypass them, you aren't mature enough for the content its hiding. But otherwise, anti all censorship.

Put it this way. If you don't like something, you can turn off the TV, close the browser tab, walk away from the source, or otherwise ignore it. Why should one person's dislike of something result in the removal of everyone else's enjoyment.

This is also why I feel the MPAA and ESRB and all their kind need to be shut down and banned by law. It's not just an impartial board giving ratings to advise the public, they influence how a movie/game will be made because their age limits are enforced restrictions instead of friendly suggestions. Fuck them, if they want to spend their time saying "Terminator 2 should not be seen by anyone under 18" fine, but that should not translate into anyone under 18 not being allowed to see it. Who the fuck are they to decide what someone can and can't watch? And who the fuck are they to influence and/or scare production companies into lowering their objectionable content for an easier rating?
Spot on dude. They don't like something, so they use all their cash and power to try and make everyone else think the same way as them. Hitler tried that and look what happened to that fascist bastard.
 

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You can see people being bludgeoned too death and no one will complain but when a part of the human anatomy comes up its quick coverthe children!

It annoys me because if your a young girl or boy how can one ever truely unnderstand ones sex if the first 10+ years of your life is about them areas being inappropriate.
 

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Generally I disagree with censoring. Anything that exists should be open to discussion and/or ridicule. People like Bernard Manning (for lack of other examples) and other racist idiots shouldn't be censored, they should be put on a box and be poked with verbal sticks. Long, pointy verbal sticks.
Which is a problem I have with this forum sometimes, the fact that I always have to be very careful about what I post and if it will get me put on probation. Scare tactics never work. Having said that, posters deliberately trying to flame or who are flat out rude deserve to be banned.
 

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Reaperman Wompa post=18.72819.774493 said:
Spartan Bannana post=18.72819.774488 said:
There should be no censorship, sheltering people from what's really out there is not for their own good, because once this stuff like violence and sex starts to happen in their lives, they'll go into shock about it. Now I'm not saying they have to show sex instead of imply it, but they really need to stop censoring cussing on TV by changing the words:
Bad News Bears Before: "Bullshit!"
After: "Bullspit!"

DOOM Before: "Shut the fucking door!!!!!"
After: "Shut the front door"
I agree.
Have you seen the censored Hot Fuzz?

It's just...terrible.
You're not wrong... Peas and Rice!!!
 

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Zallest post=18.72819.774461 said:
Also if you really believe that violence is better then sex... as in you would buy your kids the newest copy of "Kill stab-slashy McStabStab" Rather then say "Babies come from mommies"(Say it with a british accent "Mummies" that is sure to confuse the brats) then you are not raising a child you are harboring future cerial killers.
Fear the oh-so sweet and nutritious goodness that stays crispy even in milk.

As for the topic at hand, let me pose a question. Are boobs more evil than gratuitous violence? I mean, a game has to feature buckets (heck, probably even bathtubs) of blood before getting an 'M', but a nipple slip automatically warrants such a rating. Sometimes, even a nipple slip need not happen, just look at DOA4 (Which I believe had an 'M' rating. if not, replace DOA4 with any of the DOAX games).