Characters that would kick ass in another story

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Bete Noire said:
Oh, I'd like to see a few of the (2nd Edition) Mage: the Ascension characters dropping by the Harry Dresden-verse and teach him what real "wizards" are -- Mages.

Would be particularly funny to see him face Porthos Fitz-Empress, a (very insane) archmage of House Flambeau of the Order of Hermes: "I'm sorry, "Fuego"? How would you like to see what an orbital strike looks like from up close? Or maybe get teleported into the Sahara desert? Or try casting spells while Friction Cursed?"

And while we're at it, I'd like to see Malkav dropping by the Twilight universe and Ignoring ALL of them.
Hoo, boy...archmages from Mage are stupidly powerful. Forces 7 - MOVE. FUCKING. CONTINENTS. *****! Don't let me start on Examplars.

In the Dresden files, as powerful as the guys there are, they don't seem to be far above adepts. The most notable one are probably masters in more than one spheres (the Gatekeeper, the Merlin, for example) but for the most part, wizards seem to be somewhere between disciple and adept level, albeit with good grasp on more than one Sphere. Sorcerers in the Dresdenvese, however, seem more capable than the sorcerers in Mage. Well, for the most part, at least - those with magical minor talents would be roughly like the WoD sorcerers, while the actual Dresden sorcerers (say, Kravos) would be, like, disciple-level, maybe even adept but in a single sphere, at most having a bit of knowldge in one-two more. So the Dresden sorcerers are roughly equivalent to a starting Mage characters but with slightly higher Arete - 3 or 4, however, somewhere around and 3-6 dots in Spheres.

But I'd actually like to see either someone from TDF of from Mage (either, in fact) drop by in Harry Potter. It would be particularly amusing to see a Virtual Adept handle Voldy:

Voldemort: AVADA KE-*continues to only move his lips but nothing happens*
VA: *giggling* You like my new sound control app?

Alternatively, the Technocracy.

Voldemort: Avada kedavra!
HIT Mark V: RD signature detected. Analysing.
Voldemort: AVADA KEDAVRA!
HIT Mark V: Confirmed - identified - matching protocol 13446. Threat level: critical. Enforcing shockwave contingency.

As for Malkav - why ignore them? I recall there was this chick vampire who was prime Malkavian material - she had visions and such (yeah, I saw the first Twilight movie...), Malkav could just drop by and bless her with a gift. Then derange each and everybody in the series one by one. But what would actually be more entertaining - [Tzimisce]. That's it - I want to watch them suffer horribly.
 

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Omar Little from 'The Wire' in the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' universe. The very notion of him and Jack Sparrow teaming up would be awesome.
 

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Goku.

The only thing I can really see as being fair to put him into would be the Bible, but even then it's iffy.
If you're thinking about putting Goku up against God, I can give you one example why that wouldn't work.



Omnipotence and omniscience can take you a long way.
 

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Then derange each and everybody in the series one by one.
Gradual descent into paranoia and insanity until there is nothing left but a dribbling husk, then bringing them back just enough to grasp the horror that has been inflicted on them before turning them into a vegetable.

Mh ... yes ... I like that idea.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
Goku.

The only thing I can really see as being fair to put him into would be the Bible, but even then it's iffy.
If you're thinking about putting Goku up against God, I can give you one example why that wouldn't work.



Omnipotence and omniscience can take you a long way.
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
Someone who had the ability to undo reality with a mere thought, decided to erase Goku from existence, without resulting to powerups and fisticuffs? When did that happen?
 

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You know what Firefly really needs? (apart from more seasons) More Garrus. Everything needs more Garrus.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
Someone who had the ability to undo reality with a mere thought, decided to erase Goku from existence, without resulting to powerups and fisticuffs? When did that happen?
Now, I didn't say without powerups and standard DBZ fare, but Goku was wiped from existence. Buu's candy thing technically does that, since you don't exist when your physical form is candy (you're not actually the candy itself, but you're not dead, so you're nowhere until you get eaten) and (as Vegito) he was turned into a gumball before he pulled himself back into existence out of nothing and kicked the ass of the dude who did it. And I'm a bit foggy on my GT, but I think Omega Shenron did something similar with his wish-y powers. Don't quote me on that, though.

I wasn't actually being completely serious when I said he'd fare well in the Bible, but it's not quite as impossible as your comic made it out to be.
 

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The Madman said:
I just want a good ol' fashioned Wizard Rumble. Gandalf, Dumbledore, Elminster, Rand Al' Thor, Raistlin, Merlin, Dresden, Allanon, etc. Throw em all together in one last fictional battle!

Figure Raistlin would probably come out on top but it'd be one hell of a contest.

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The Nameless One from Planescape: Torment.

On top of being literally unkillable...

some of his higher level spells involved summoning dragons very briefly to have them breath fire on his enemies...

or send comets at his foes. Yeah...

Basically... stick him in ANY series you like.
He wins.
The Namesless One isn't unkillable, he's just hard to keep dead. Within PS:T there are several characters that can destroy him permanently. For example try pissing off The Lady of Pain. Go for it. There's even a special 'GAME OVER' should you do it.

Yes I know.
I just don't think it counts as a kill if he gets back up later.

Also...

comparing his high level abilities to most other characters in pretty much everything else...

and he still wins every time.
 

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TheDoctor455 said:
Kain and Raziel from the Legacy of Kain series.

Both are vampires in their own way.

Kain is the Scion of Balance, Wielder of the Soul Reaver (the physical version), and is a general magnificent bastard that loves drinking the blood of his enemies. Or turning the corpses of those who once served his enemies into his vampire Sons and Lieutenants.

Hence...

Raziel... umm... fuck it... easier if I just post a link here:


After that, Raziel becomes a soul-devouring wraith wielding the Wraith-blade version of the Soul Reaver.

So basically those two killing every character in the Twilight Saga.

Also, as you may have noticed from that video...

both Kain and Raziel speak in a pseudo-Shakespearean style, so imagine the lines they'd be throwing around compared to the Twilight cast constantly going "Umm.. uh-huh, yeah..." while dying horribly.
Man, I hope you played Defiance so you know the true insanity that is Raziel's character revelation. There is a really good reason he is so stupid strong.

My vote: Monkey D. Luffy in anything but Waterworld. Because it's Luffy, and he's completely batshit nuts strong.
I've gone through every game except the original Blood Omen.

I wish I hadn't played Blood Omen 2 though. That one had no business being part of this series.

As for the revelation... the one revolving around the Soul Reaver, yes?

They did that one in Soul Reaver 2.

As for anything else... kinda saw that coming.

But then, I'm apparently one of the few mutants that could follow the story of this series on one go without any help.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
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Drago-Morph said:
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
Someone who had the ability to undo reality with a mere thought, decided to erase Goku from existence, without resulting to powerups and fisticuffs? When did that happen?
Now, I didn't say without powerups and standard DBZ fare, but Goku was wiped from existence. Buu's candy thing technically does that, since you don't exist when your physical form is candy (you're not actually the candy itself, but you're not dead, so you're nowhere until you get eaten) and (as Vegito) he was turned into a gumball before he pulled himself back into existence out of nothing and kicked the ass of the dude who did it. And I'm a bit foggy on my GT, but I think Omega Shenron did something similar with his wish-y powers. Don't quote me on that, though.

I wasn't actually being completely serious when I said he'd fare well in the Bible, but it's not quite as impossible as your comic made it out to be.
Ok, Buu's candy power is a closest thing I can think of, as an erasing-from-existence like power in the Dragon ball saga but I don't think those shadow dragons had any wishing powers. They were just evil pricks born from negative energies gathered from selfless wishes or something like that (which the Z team had been making plenty of, wishing all those people back to life). I don't know, the writers were kinda scratching the barrel, by the time they got to the GT series and I wasn't really paying attention.

Also, I'm aware you were joking. Me pointing out the God man comic was also supposed to be a joke. People joke around.

...wasn't the whole reason why the people that Buu had candyfied returned, because someone (Gohan?) punched him so hard in the stomach that he threw up all of them or something? It's been a good long while since I saw that show but I now have that mental image in my head.
 

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Call me Baz said:
I was rather hoping to find people saying "having character X in story Y would kick ass because blah" where "blah" is any reason other than being ridiculously overpowered and eviscerating everything in that universe without spending more energy than it takes for me to cut a slice of cheese.

A little more on topic, I suck at creative writing, fanfic and imagination.

So I don't have a better idea than anyone here, I just wish to judge you all. Take that, society.
I feel your pain. The question of who would be interesting in what setting has more to do with personality than with power level -- especially since the special metaphysics of one setting rarely apply in another. There's no hyperspace dimension full of demons in the Dr. Who universe, and whatever operant mechanism give the Time Lords their power probably doesn't apply in _Star Trek_. (Unless they're the Q Continuum. So, bad example.)

I like the recommendation that another poster had about putting Link in _A Game of Thrones_, though. I haven't read those books, but I get the impression that they could really use a capable leader who was slightly less cynical than the ones they've currently got.

But Link has never really been known for leadership; so how about putting Nausicaa and Kushana in _A Game of Thrones_, and seeing how long it takes them to team up and hijack a major country? They totally could, and you can't tell me they wouldn't get along, not after they spent the whole movie and a third of the manga trying and failing to hate each other.

(Gandalf in Harry Potter is also a great idea.)

And I'd like to see Miko Miyazaki, of _Order of the Stick_, in a setting that took itself vaguely seriously. She thought that the OOTS-verse was the real world, and the PCs thought it was _Seinfeld_ with themselves as the main characters; she ended so badly because they were right and she was wrong. But she'd have fit right in as a Protoss.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
Someone who had the ability to undo reality with a mere thought, decided to erase Goku from existence, without resulting to powerups and fisticuffs? When did that happen?
if you want to get technical yahweh never exhibits those powers in the source material.
he makes a flood, turns someone to salt for looking at a city, stops the sun and/or earth from moving, rains fire and brimstone but never flat out makes someone disappear.
 

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direkiller said:
if you want to get technical yahweh never exhibits those powers in the source material.
he makes a flood, turns someone to salt for looking at a city, stops the sun and/or earth from moving, rains fire and brimstone but never flat out makes someone disappear.
Well, if we want to be super duper technical, there are two references where he makes someone disappear, although with good intentions. Enoch(some guy he really liked) and Noah(the one who made the ark). In both cases, the guys supposedly "walked with god" and were no more. No death was involved and no body left behind. This was before Jesus popped down and proclaimed that everyone who loves him gets an all expense paid trip to heaven, upon their death. You might think these two went to heaven but the concept of the afterlife isn't really discussed in the old testament, which contains these stories. Instead we get a vague description about the world that will come after the Armageddon, which is super special awesome and everyone who ever died gets to live in it and be happy.

Granted, this is a super simplistic explanation of the old testament and I'm gonna stop now, before I risk derailing this thread any further.
 

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I just know I'm going to regret adding to this thread. Anyway I always thought it'd be interesting to see Goku battle some of Superman's enemies like Darksied or Doomsday.
 

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Drago-Morph said:
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Drago-Morph said:
Oh, I considered that. A few people tried that on Goku.

Didn't really work.
Someone who had the ability to undo reality with a mere thought, decided to erase Goku from existence, without resulting to powerups and fisticuffs? When did that happen?
Now, I didn't say without powerups and standard DBZ fare, but Goku was wiped from existence. Buu's candy thing technically does that, since you don't exist when your physical form is candy (you're not actually the candy itself, but you're not dead, so you're nowhere until you get eaten) and (as Vegito) he was turned into a gumball before he pulled himself back into existence out of nothing and kicked the ass of the dude who did it. And I'm a bit foggy on my GT, but I think Omega Shenron did something similar with his wish-y powers. Don't quote me on that, though.

I wasn't actually being completely serious when I said he'd fare well in the Bible, but it's not quite as impossible as your comic made it out to be.
Ok, Buu's candy power is a closest thing I can think of, as an erasing-from-existence like power in the Dragon ball saga but I don't think those shadow dragons had any wishing powers. They were just evil pricks born from negative energies gathered from selfless wishes or something like that (which the Z team had been making plenty of, wishing all those people back to life). I don't know, the writers were kinda scratching the barrel, by the time they got to the GT series and I wasn't really paying attention.

Also, I'm aware you were joking. Me pointing out the God man comic was also supposed to be a joke. People joke around.

...wasn't the whole reason why the people that Buu had candyfied returned, because someone (Gohan?) punched him so hard in the stomach that he threw up all of them or something? It's been a good long while since I saw that show but I now have that mental image in my head.
No, they died after they got eaten and everyone got wished back. You're thinking of the people Buu absorbed to gain their power, and they were freed when candy-Vegito went inside of Buu and released them manually.
 

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Funny. I often think of what would happen when all the vampires got shoves into one story.
Same with wizards.
Speaking of wizardds I remember reading a fan fiction where Harmionie (spelling?) from harry potter decided to be a magic girl like salor moon. It gave a good laugh.
Also if gundam and evangelion was switched over.
 

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i would like to see The Emprah (you FEHLED HIM!) inserted into the cthulhu mythos, in his physical form. or just his weirdy-beardy psychic energy or whatever. perhaps the chaos gods versus the outer ones too.

also, jaws (the shark) in titanic. or the perfect storm. or point break... or pretty much anything with any water in it.