I think the point is that that whole "80s macho actionhero" thing is so extremely exaggerated that he becomes more of a parody that you can laugh at. I don't think we are actually to like him as a person or to identify with him.CBanana said:
Characters you hate that everyone loves
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I both hate and love batman. On the one hand his character is bland, his 'emotional trauma' is suitably messed up but not for the reasons DC thinks (I have friends who have lost their parents far more recently than batman and deal with it far better), and I really just see him as a vehicle for his villains.
On the other hand, I love making fun of him so much he's probably become my most referenced superhero.
I hate most of the 'badass' characters from anime and stuff, primarily the guys like Kamina. There isn't really anything wrong with those characters themselves, but my friends just downright WORSHIP the 'badass' in any show they watch and it gets really annoying since normally those characters just aren't all that interesting.
Finally, I hate wolves. They're kinda intelligent wild canines. They are not holy badass coolness incarnate. And yet, for some reason everyone treats them as if their japanese name (which translates roughly to 'great spirit') is an understatement. If you tell me your favorite animal is the wolf, I will immediately lose respect for you.
On the other hand, I love making fun of him so much he's probably become my most referenced superhero.
I hate most of the 'badass' characters from anime and stuff, primarily the guys like Kamina. There isn't really anything wrong with those characters themselves, but my friends just downright WORSHIP the 'badass' in any show they watch and it gets really annoying since normally those characters just aren't all that interesting.
Finally, I hate wolves. They're kinda intelligent wild canines. They are not holy badass coolness incarnate. And yet, for some reason everyone treats them as if their japanese name (which translates roughly to 'great spirit') is an understatement. If you tell me your favorite animal is the wolf, I will immediately lose respect for you.
Maybe not someone everyone loves, but...
Robert Baratheon. He is a wife-beater who ordered the death of a wolf he knew to be innocent, over testimony he knew to be a lie. As a king he spent most of his time drunkenly bankrupting the kingdom, and his parenting skills produced Joffrey, a vicious little sadist who tried to murder a child because he thought it would make daddy love him. Admittedly he was married to Cersei, but Cersei when it comes right down to it is Catelyn Stark after being married to a prick.
Robert Baratheon. He is a wife-beater who ordered the death of a wolf he knew to be innocent, over testimony he knew to be a lie. As a king he spent most of his time drunkenly bankrupting the kingdom, and his parenting skills produced Joffrey, a vicious little sadist who tried to murder a child because he thought it would make daddy love him. Admittedly he was married to Cersei, but Cersei when it comes right down to it is Catelyn Stark after being married to a prick.
Master Chief, practically every character in the COD series, Catelyn Stark, the film versions of the hobbits, Marcus Fenix, are the one's that spring to mind at the moment.
Liara, an annoying as hell Mary Sue with the personality of a brick. A monotone voice actress doesn't exactly help either.
Even worse is how much BioWare is pushing her as the canon romance for Shepard because she's obviously their favourite.
But hey, she's a virgin with blue tits so everyone loves her.
Even worse is how much BioWare is pushing her as the canon romance for Shepard because she's obviously their favourite.
But hey, she's a virgin with blue tits so everyone loves her.
Garrus after mass effect 1. In the first one, he managed to have some flaws in his personality (a little bit reckless, struggled to see other points of view etc) while you could still beleive he was a good soldier.
After 1? Seemed Bioware tried to make him an untouchable badass. Lost intrest in him.
After 1? Seemed Bioware tried to make him an untouchable badass. Lost intrest in him.
Kratos was an interesting character in 1... At least he was somehow justified, and he was the underdog when compared to Ares. By the time he reached 3, he is just a big crying baby with swords that can't stop having a temper tantrum about something and doesn't really cared for anything else. Even when I was actually rooting for my enemies at the end of 3, I would have bought the character more if they didn't try to pull the whole "he is so noble" curb ball with the character of Pandora... completely uncalled for.Sheo_Dagana said:
OT: Dante, especially Old Dante... I grew tired of the game trying to sell him like he was the coolest guy in the face of the Earth, since every time he opened his mouth all I could think of was "what a douche".
Every damn superhero that sits on that moral high horse and just refuses to kill the villains. Think of Batman, if he would have just put a bullet between the eyes of The Joker for example, how many lives could he have saved? but noooo, can't do that because "MY EMOTIONS!!!"
Also on that note, I fucking hate Batman, he would have died 60 years ago if it was not for all that Deus Ex and plot armor the mass of Jupiter.
Also on that note, I fucking hate Batman, he would have died 60 years ago if it was not for all that Deus Ex and plot armor the mass of Jupiter.
I believe his point was that they are written to be overpowered. Specifically, Wolverine regenerative power reached a point where he can regenerate entirely out of a single cell, which (besides being stupid) means anything shorter than throwing him to the sun is wasting everyone's time.makmende said:
Batman's insanity is conveniently left off by most writers, to the point he might not only be pretty sane within his world, but actually be considered the smartest, wisest and most capable person in the DC universe. His personality issues get dismissed as he is written out as "the greatest in the world". He is the greatest detective, tactician, crime fighter, martial artist, chess player, melodic singer, playboy lover, car driver, stealth assassin, interrogator, richest man alive, with eidetic memory and training to resist every poison and mind control technique known to man.
I don't hate him but I don't have the love for Rider from Fate/Zero that everyone who ever watches the show seems to. I mean I thought he was a cool and fun gun at first, but then he just shut down Saber's philosophy (which is basically to be a selfless superhero who protects people), which I thought was a little too harsh.
I don't like how people latch onto him either, but I don't think it's fair to say that Simon is better because he gets character development. Of course Simon would get character development, he's the main character. Kamina is Simon's Uncle Ben, Obi-wan (original trilogy), etc. Their sole purpose is to serve as an example and a source of motivation for the main character so of course they won't have character development.ItouKaiji said:
Oh, I remember a good one. Light Yagami.
Guys. I had to quit that series because there's only so much pitch perfect bullshit planning that I can take. I don't remember that guy fucking up once asides, like, the end.
Of course, I will endlessly compare him to Lelouch Lamperouge, another planning, scheming kinda guy. Except that he actually fucks up and freaks out. And that's why he is so much more enjoyable as a character, in my eyes.
Guys. I had to quit that series because there's only so much pitch perfect bullshit planning that I can take. I don't remember that guy fucking up once asides, like, the end.
Of course, I will endlessly compare him to Lelouch Lamperouge, another planning, scheming kinda guy. Except that he actually fucks up and freaks out. And that's why he is so much more enjoyable as a character, in my eyes.
I suppose I should clarify; perceived stereotypical Italian. A bit like how everybody would assume all Australians are like Crocodile Dundee or Steve Irwin. Not true, but it's cementing that idea in their heads, even to the point Ubisoft had a character go 'It's a' me, Mario'.HellbirdIV said:
Stereotypes aside, I don't see what's so lovable. He's more of a brand mascot than a fleshed out character these days. Whatever the cartoons made of him is a distant memory, if the games were more like the old cartoons then I might still be vaguely interested.
Phil freaking Coulson, from the recent Marvel films. When he got stabbed, I cheered. Took me a while to notice my friends were looking at me like they thought I was a total asshole...
I'm not sorry though. I thought Coulson was one of the most evil characters in the series. I was a little angry that he got a last heroic moment blasting Loki.
I'm not sorry though. I thought Coulson was one of the most evil characters in the series. I was a little angry that he got a last heroic moment blasting Loki.
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The entire cast of Soul Eater, even the "badass" ones.
I just find most of them to be bland and uninteresting, and when they're not being bland they're being annoying as hell, not to mention it's hard to call any of them a "badass" when they're constantly getting their asses handed to them.
The only character I liked was Excalibur, who was suppose to be boring and irritating.
I just find most of them to be bland and uninteresting, and when they're not being bland they're being annoying as hell, not to mention it's hard to call any of them a "badass" when they're constantly getting their asses handed to them.
The only character I liked was Excalibur, who was suppose to be boring and irritating.
Malcolm Reynolds. Probably gonna get flamed for this, but he was a jerk with a heart of gold, except they forgot to write in the heart of gold part. I forgive the TV series because A. he actually had some decent moments (could've used a few more) but B. the series was canceled prematurely, so I always thought he had more character development just beyond the horizon.
Then I watched Serenity, and I learned that it was a-ok to hate that prick. That selfish, inconsiderate, short tempered, reckless, intolerable, stuck up, controlling, "witty" PRICK!
Then I watched Serenity, and I learned that it was a-ok to hate that prick. That selfish, inconsiderate, short tempered, reckless, intolerable, stuck up, controlling, "witty" PRICK!
