This. She also took the Brotherhood without Banners, one of the coolest things about the book, and turned them from a band of ragtag vigilantes into criminals because that suited her needs. Also the entire thing with Brienne proves just how narrow-sighted she is and how her anger blinds her pretty much the entire series long!Pallindromemordnillap said:Problem is even the Red Wedding (for those of you who haven't read the books, DO NOT LOOK THIS UP!) didn't stop her. She's still being just as impulsive and short-sighted as ever. "Oh, whats that trusted ally from previous books? You're trying to explain yourself to me but can't because my new friends who are weaselly outlaws that I literally just met have you in a noose? No, I don't think I will take the time to listen to you, because I'm Caitlin Stark and my needs override everyone else's la-di-dah-di-dah!"bigsby said:Well, as someone who has read the books (sidenote, why do I think fans of the books are in the vast minority here)I absolutely HATE Caitlyn Stark, more so than Cersei even!!! She is stupid, impulsive, irrational and not to spoil anything, but she gets way, way worse!ToastiestZombie said:Well, the show's work has been done then? I, and many others absolutely hate Joffrey with every bit of our being. Which is intentional, and they're not trying to hide that. I reckon any show with this many characters needs a complete arsehole bastard to contrast to the honourable and good (as in good vs evil) characters. But really, I kind of disagree with your point about Caitlin Stark. Sure she was an arrogant prick at first, but soon she learnt how shitty being an arrogant prick can make your life. She gets literally held hostage with Joffrey, and a dead dad for being an arrogant prick. Joffrey gets to be the bloody king!Pallindromemordnillap said:Yeah, but you're supposed to hate Joffrey. Pretty much everyone recognises him as a little shit except Cersei because she has the disadvantage of being both his mother and pretty terrible herself. Martin often goes out of his way to emphasise what a douche Joffrey is, so I wouldn't worry about hating him.ToastiestZombie said:So we all have those few characters that we just hate with every inch of our body, the ones that we wish and look forward to bad things happening to them. I'm not talking about just badly written characters, I'm talking about characters who's actions, personality and voice just pisses you off. So, what character do you absolutely loath?
Now, I'm gonna get this out of the way. Joffrey from Game of Thrones. I haven't watched season 2 yet so don't say if anything bad happens to him, neither have I read the books. But that little bastard is the most terrible human being ever put on screen. Unlike many of the other villians in the series Joffrey hasn't had to suffer hardships, or go through wars or anything else, he's just a spoilt brat bastard who I hope to god is killed in season 2 or season 3.
For my part I dislike Caitlin Stark. She whines on and on like everything is a personal attack against her. "Oh Rob wants to send me somewhere safe from the war, clearly its because he doesn't like having his mother around. Alas, woe is me." Or, and here's a wild thought, perhaps he genuinely wants you safe since you're some of the closest family he has and one of the few people he trusts? Perhaps it isn't all about you? Perhaps you could try looking at the big picture? Not to mention its her actions that kick off the conflict proper after she kidnaps Tyrion...
Damn you woman!