Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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We can all thank Obama for the war between black and white. He started a tsunami of hate and we can't avoid the ramifications of the hate.


Trump was basically the counter reaction that poured gasoline on the fire though; less interested in uniting people than someone like say, oh, Arnold might have if he were ever able to hold that office. Where does it all lead…most likely nowhere good.
What, no blaming feminism for the male loneliness epidemic? Don't stop the bullshit now - come on, keep it going.
 

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In other words, "not Chicago". We'll not mind how crime in DC is at a thirty-year low...for now.

Meanwhile, Chicago is 22nd in the country in murders per capita, 92nd in total instances of violent crime per capita. Funny how I don't see similar activities or even the intent to engage in such activities in Birmingham (1st in murder, 11th in violent crime), St. Louis (2nd/9th respectively), Memphis (3rd in murder, 1st in violent crime), Baltimore (4th/5th), Detroit (5th/3rd), or Cleveland (6th/6th).

Of course, Birmingham, St. Louis, and Memphis are in red states. Detroit and Cleveland are in battleground states. Baltimore is the only one of those actual "murder and violent crime capitols" in a blue state, but being it's part of the greater DC metro area it's real interesting how DC got the attention whereas Baltimore got none during this "crime fighting" surge. You'd think of all places in the greater DC metro area to nationalize law enforcement, Baltimore would be first and foremost on the list, but apparently not.

It's almost as if this is a political ploy to continue spinning blue state cities as crime-ridden, while trying to bury facts about actual crime statistics and which cities are least safe.
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Tho that story about some executive asking Trump to come to Memphis is suspect of course. Much more likely Trump just TACO'd because the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor had promised a legal Vietnam if Trump sent in the guard. By comparison, a city in a deep red state with much less means for belligerence like Memphis, with, per your figures, an actual crime problem, might provide that quick, easy win so desperately craved. Until they fuck it up, of course.
 

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*meanwhile in reality, looking for the left wing in America*
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Man, I'd love to have 'radical' left wing policy actually be as widespread and prevelant as it lives in the mind of people who lean right if we're gonna count Barrack "Deporter in Chief, drone strike world champion" Obama as 'the left'.
 

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Tho that story about some executive asking Trump to come to Memphis is suspect of course. Much more likely Trump just TACO'd because the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor had promised a legal Vietnam if Trump sent in the guard.
Trump, to my knowledge, has not sent the National Guard anywhere without the legal authority to do so. For DC, there is a specific clause of the law allowing him to decide that himself. For everywhere not federally owned land, state and local governments have to request or at least agree to the presence. If Chicago says no, he can't send them.

Yes, everywhere else Trump has sent National Guardsmen, he's had local permission.
 

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Trump, to my knowledge, has not sent the National Guard anywhere without the legal authority to do so. For DC, there is a specific clause of the law allowing him to decide that himself. For everywhere not federally owned land, state and local governments have to request or at least agree to the presence. If Chicago says no, he can't send them.

Yes, everywhere else Trump has sent National Guardsmen, he's had local permission.
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Ah, yes, the "it's your fault for electing a black man as President twice; how was I not supposed to lose my mind?!" rationale.
Literally the only thing segment of one of Kirk "debate" I knew about before he got killed was him asking a women if a man forcibly kissing her should be considered rape. She said yes, and so he retorted to her that this was why man were electing people like Trump. I imagine he meant in a sort of "you're alienating regular people with your crazy position" but really what he was saying was "let men rape you once in awhile otherwise they'll turn around and elect the worse people for president out of spite and hope he make rape legal" (oh that note Trump was just the other day bemoaning the fact that men beating their wife is considered a crime).

On one side, its crazy that the left is expected to do all the heavy lifting in society so that the right can leave how they want, but on the other hand, it really work for them, they absolutely can make themselves such a nuisance that they get whatever they want all the time. Blue state economy is essentially funneled entirely to red state that are barely held together, so that they can cut tax to the minimum. This really need to be the new position of democrat, its time for the lazy to pick up their own slack, no reason california money should go to texas.
 

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I have not seen a single piece of evidence of this. Do you have any?
Other than the Helldiver and HoI 4 memes ("Bella Ciao" is an unofficial groyper theme), and that he dressed as slav Pepe for Halloween?

Only political group/movement that embraces that particular admix of idiotic 4chan bullshit, and is stupid enough to bring it into real life, is...groyper. Which, they have done, repeatedly, and for years. Most notably and specifically, targeting Charlie Kirk and TPUSA for real-life and online harassment through the so-called "groyper wars".
 

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Literally the only thing segment of one of Kirk "debate" I knew about before he got killed was him asking a women if a man forcibly kissing her should be considered rape. She said yes, and so he retorted to her that this was why man were electing people like Trump. I imagine he meant in a sort of "you're alienating regular people with your crazy position" but really what he was saying was "let men rape you once in awhile otherwise they'll turn around and elect the worse people for president out of spite and hope he make rape legal" (oh that note Trump was just the other day bemoaning the fact that men beating their wife is considered a crime).
It's more a "you're denying men their rightful power to take whatever they want, so we turn to men like Trump to put you back in your place" thing. It's misogyny.
 
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Other than the Helldiver and HoI 4 memes ("Bella Ciao" is an unofficial groyper theme), and that he dressed as slav Pepe for Halloween?

Only political group/movement that embraces that particular admix of idiotic 4chan bullshit, and is stupid enough to bring it into real life, is...groyper. Which, they have done, repeatedly, and for years. Most notably and specifically, targeting Charlie Kirk and TPUSA for real-life and online harassment through the so-called "groyper wars".
Pepe is not inherently a groyper meme. More importantly, the "slav squat" is not inherently a Pepe meme. It had a whole subreddit.
He didn't dress as Pepe, he was doing the squatting slav.

The Helldivers reference was a controller input. The rest of that casing said "Hey fascist! Catch!” So unless playing Helldivers is an inherently groyper thing to do, the message on its face is anti-fascist in nature.

I had never heard of Bella Ciao before this. Every piece of reporting I've seen, including one's calling the slav squat a groyper meme, calls it an antifascist folk song. If you have anything showing that groypers have used this song as a theme, please present it. Otherwise, using it unironically as an anti-fascist message is consistent with the other casings.
 
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Kirk was recently critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza and Shapiro is a notorious shill for Israel. Go figure.


In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a “bully,” the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. “Charlie was the only person who did that,” they said, recalling how Trump “barked at him” in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.

By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish “leaders” and “stakeholders.”

“He was afraid of them,” the source emphasized.



As an aside,

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Utah governor confirmed the rifle casings were inscribed with anti-fascist messaging. The irony. In the end, the shooter was very likely another troubled pawn of the wealthy elite.
 
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Man, I'd love to have 'radical' left wing policy actually be as widespread and prevelant as it lives in the mind of people who lean right if we're gonna count Barrack "Deporter in Chief, drone strike world champion" Obama as 'the left'.
Not to mention, the little thing of the attempted coup by the a few years back being by the right, not the left. Sorta a big deal, an attempted coup.

(And, you know, all the other right wing extremism not matched by the left, but that, I feel, is a good example)
 
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Which is weird, because like all Democrat presidents, Obama governed absolutely from the centre.

He passed a healthcare bill that ensured money kept going to corporations. He sold out the poor to save the banks after the financial crash, and bailed out the car industry. He extended controversial government powers (e.g. Patriot Act), bombed foreign countries. He did little or nothing to reduce monopolistic corporate power that enabled the economic exploitation of Americans.

He did of course allow homosexuals to marry and serve openly in the military. I presume that's what you have a problem with?