Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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Uh-huh. But why did race relations worsen under Obama, and was any of it Obama's fault?
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Ehh…that reminds me of the old, is anything the fault or result of the sitting president, or did they merely inherit it? The answer of course conveniently changes depending on who’s asking and answering.
 

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This thing may not be Obama’s fault but Bernie not being the nominee in 2020 actually was so you can blame him for almost every bad thing we see now, within reason.
 

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Ehh…that reminds me of the old, is anything the fault or result of the sitting president, or did they merely inherit it? The answer of course conveniently changes depending on who’s asking and answering.
You can very reasonably ask what presidents could reasonably have known about, what tools they had at their disposal, and what they did or did not do in response to an issue. For instance, you obviously cannot blame Donald Trump for Covid emerging and causing havoc. You could not reasonably blame George W. Bush for the financial crash happening. (You could criticise their responses to those crises, of course.)
 

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This thing may not be Obama’s fault but Bernie not being the nominee in 2020 actually was so you can blame him for almost every bad thing we see now, within reason.
I think one of the best things about your long hiatus from the Current Affairs forum was not having to read you always blame the or think the worst of black people, and as soon as you are back...
 

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Ehh…that reminds me of the old, is anything the fault or result of the sitting president, or did they merely inherit it? The answer of course conveniently changes depending on who’s asking and answering.
Or perhaps the answer depends on whether you can actually establish a cause-effect relationship, rather than just a correlation.
 

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So Kimmel got fired, and they've replaced his slot with some kind of memorial for Charlie Kirk instead.

The Charlie Kirk revisionism, turning him into some kind of pseudo-saint, is honestly a sight to behold.
 

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In other news, Jimmy Kimmel has basically been fired for criticizing how the government is politicizing the shooting.

The worse is how the media is again playing right into the hand of the GOP, they say he was cancelled for "comment he made about the Charlie Kirk shooting", which make it sounds to someone who hasn't seen the clip like he made a joke about his death, but that's not what he did at all. A more accurate headline would be "comment he made about the government response to the shooting", but that wouldn't put the blame on him, so no go.
 

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Ehh…that reminds me of the old, is anything the fault or result of the sitting president, or did they merely inherit it? The answer of course conveniently changes depending on who’s asking and answering.
Obama can be blamed for a lot of things (especially by the left) but Republicans driving themselves crazy over his skin color is not among them.
 

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"One of yours murdered a man in cold blood"

Uh-huh.

Oh, hey, remember Gabby Giffords? Remember this little gem from Sarah Palin?



You want some help getting that beam out of your eye before you go after the mote in anyone else's? Conservatives have been the "Second Amendment solutions" / "vote from the rooftops" party for decades. Don't sit here and play as if you're not on the side that's been casually promoting political violence and then shrugging and saying "well, it's really your fault" when some nutter (who, 85% of the time, is on your side) acts.

You know being what I like to call a fallen leftist I remember when part of the philosophy was to be better than the right not just act like petulant children and go "But they did it"

The Left had a person literally assassinate, not a politician just some asshole dude speaking.

The left has become increasingly violent and unhinged and all this "But they did it because they drew crosshairs on a map" bullshit

Do you even understand "Vote from the rooftops" to be a reference to the rooftop Koreans? People acting in self defence.

I'll happily sit here and point out the sheer fucking hypocrisy going on right now because it's typical.


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This image of the fake served Trump head that happened in Trump's first term sums up so much of the modern left. You know why? Because a smaller time amateur comedian did a version of it with her head and rather than consider it fair she cried how offensive it was and how it was a clear threat to her.

This crybully tactics from the left are getting old.

People are fed up of what is becoming increasing like entitled immature children throwing tantrums and blocking off areas claiming it's their territory and no longer part of the USA or some shit now meanwhile what was in it CHOP 3 or 4 people shot 2 of them fatally and that was the left sharing the space with only other left wingers.
 

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But it's not cancel culture!
There's no such thing remember your side said so.

Only consequence culture or whatever bullshit it was.




 

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"You're free to speak, doesn't mean you're allowed to be paid to do so or entitled to people listening. Being fired doesn't stop you speaking. Freedom of speech only protects you from the government itself"
 

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Ah yes, the shooting of some-one who had very well known clear political views being killed while espousing those views.

I thought everything was political?
You know damned well what he meant. He was talking about holding up Charlie Kirk as proof that the left is evil and out to get everyone on the right. In other words, using Charlie Kirk's assassination to push their own policies and prove that they are right. And they proved him right by doing this.
 

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Except that was a reference to a videogame. Also, the guy who shot Trump - the most major right wing dude - was a conservative. And I'm not American, maybe guns are just that regular to everyone there, but being into guns is typically not a leftist position. And (not saying this is proven in this case) but the whole thing with Nick Fuentes and the groypers shows that there very much are right wingers that fucking hate other right wingers. Even Laura Loomer, who's apparently friends with Fuentes and Trump, was incredibly critical of Charlie Kirk days before he got clipped.

There's examples a plenty of right wingers/white nationalists spending a bit too much time listening to these online hate mongers, and deciding they need to do something drastic. On the very same day Kirk got shot even.

It just seems wishy washy for a leftist who wants to assassinate a major right wing figure, and it being purely for their left wing ideological reasons, to put outdated internet memes and videogame references on there. But who knows, maybe this time the left actually did get a shot off.

The guy who shot Trump who donated to a democrat fundraiser despite being a registered republican.

Dude people have been out there trying to kick people in the head on the street, killing a right wing political figure? Yeh that wouldn't shock me.

 

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You know damned well what he meant. He was talking about holding up Charlie Kirk as proof that the left is evil and out to get everyone on the right. In other words, using Charlie Kirk's assassination to push their own policies and prove that they are right. And they proved him right by doing this.
Do I?

Should I?

Because if everything is political then surely this is functioning as intended and you should see no issues this it.

You're not one of those strange small minded people who thinks things aren't all political right?
 

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Do I?

Should I?

Because if everything is political then surely this is functioning as intended and you should see no issues this it.

You're not one of those strange small minded people who thinks things aren't all political right?
No, I'm not. My brother is, and he's the one ranting about how the left killed a good Christian man and took him from his wife and son because he said a few disagreeable things, because they tried and failed to kill Trump.
 

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Does it really matter?