Chauvin Found Guilty of All Charges

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That seems worse, actually; if they get off the stronger charge, but would've been found guilty on a lesser charge, then the defendant gets off even if the jury believes beyond reasonable doubt that they did it.
They could only charge him for murder, manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter. The prosecutor would need to prove that Chauvin left the police station with the intention to kill Floyd to charge him with murder. This would most assuredly not lead to a guilty verdict. The U.S. seems unique in that you can be charged for all three at once at varying degrees of severity per charge. In most European countries it would 'just' be manslaughter
 
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As happy as I am to see the convictions get confirmed by the jury, I have to be that guy and point out he still has the appeal process so it’s not a totally done deal yet.

Even the judge stated that some senators statements over the weekend (sorry totally brain farting on her name) opened the door to an appeal. So until the appeal process is taken care of and the charges are confirmed I’m still a bit concerned with things being overturned or having another trial have to take place and putting a burden back on the city.
 
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I look forward to Tucker Carlson declaring that he was some "sacrificial lamb on the altar of the left's agenda to destroy america. To appease the savage hordes prepared to riot in the streets."
Anything yet?
 

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I've seen it proposed that this is entirely just meant to be a false trial so that they can have an actual one without a crowd threatening to burn the building down if they don't get the verdict they want.
 
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As happy as I am to see the convictions get confirmed by the jury, I have to be that guy and point out he still has the appeal process so it’s not a totally done deal yet.

Even the judge stated that some senators statements over the weekend (sorry totally brain farting on her name) opened the door to an appeal. So until the appeal process is taken care of and the charges are confirmed I’m still a bit concerned with things being overturned or having another trial have to take place and putting a burden back on the city.
Chances seem good that the sentencing will be reduced in appeals that don't happen with a mob outside.
 

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I've seen it proposed that this is entirely just meant to be a false trial so that they can have an actual one without a crowd threatening to burn the building down if they don't get the verdict they want.
You mean the same way that Trump is totally going to still have the "real" inauguration?
 

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Anything yet?
Oh I have no clue, I don't watch fox. I just assume he will try and frame it as an innocent cop, just doing his duty to protect good, decent, christian citizens of murica, being denied justice and a true trial, because biden something something, liberal agenda, etc etc. You know the shit he would say.

Of course that's assuming they air the story at all, and don't instead focus entirely on how dr. seuss is an attack on their god given rights as a murican
 
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Buddy of mine is a cop and supports the verdict. I'll defer to his understanding of proper use of force.
 
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Well, that's one way to cope.
"It's my mental illness, I get to choose the coping mechanism"

You mean the same way that Trump is totally going to still have the "real" inauguration?
Any day now. Jesus will inaugurate him and send all the liberals to hell, where they'll be condemned to universal health care and properly funded national infrastructure.
 

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I look forward to Tucker Carlson declaring that he was some "sacrificial lamb on the altar of the left's agenda to destroy america. To appease the savage hordes prepared to riot in the streets."
I too, am looking forward to the impotent pants shitting rage of the white trust fund babies such as Tucky Bucky who can't stand to see a cop get punished for killing a black man
 
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Yeah, but will this finally become the new norm - cops held accountable for their actions (against black people) - or will this verdict be used to placate the public, as we see the majority of cops, like the one who shot that 13-year old kid, still get away with this shit?
 

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The U.S. seems unique in that you can be charged for all three at once at varying degrees of severity per charge. In most European countries it would 'just' be manslaughter
Yeah. A maximum of 40 years seems absurd. Here it would be a maximum of 8 (something akin to 2nd degree murder) but probably less (manslaughter). But the justice systems are very different, I get that.
 

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Yeah, but will this finally become the new norm - cops held accountable for their actions (against black people) - or will this verdict be used to placate the public, as we see the majority of cops, like the one who shot that 13-year old kid, still get away with this shit?
Either it becomes the new norm, or it becomes an excellent argument in favor of burning down police precincts.
 
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