Cheapest thing a Game has done to Cheat you out of a Win

[SuperNova221]

Insane AI in SC2 is just... insane. Thought I had a clever idea, would just go for a really early cheese rush with some marines, but by the time I had my (mind you, proxied) tier 1 marine rush, the AI was doing a push with a few thors...

Edit: To say more specifically why it cheats me out of a win... insane AI harvesters gain about 2x the number of minerals and gas you do, so it's not as if they just play really well, they flat out cheat for extra resources.

 

[Ddgafd]

I'm suprised that no one has mentioned how cars in sandbox games always change lanes so you crash into them. Ragetastic, especially during a timed mission. Saints Row 2 and Simpsons: Hit & Run are the worst offenders I can think of right now.

 

[Exocet]

Since the op started with Rome total war, I'm going to give an example from it too.

I was (re)taking a Greek city that had just rebelled for the 19th fucking time in 20 turns. This time I wasn't going to take any shit from them, and I would garrison a full army.
Comes the day of the battle, they come out of the castle to meet me in an open field right before I can besiege it.

Day of the battle: a pleasant summer's night in a Greek prairie.
I'm fielding a classic composition of legionnaires, archers, some praetorian cavalry and a few arbalests.
Another army is coming as reinforcement, with fire piggies ( pigs dosed with oil, set on fire and set into enemy lines), with javelin auxiliaries and a catapult.
Against me is a HORDE of random units. Most of them very powerful melee units.

I start moving in, close enough for my javelins to have just enough time to fire off a couple missiles before retreating behind my defensive line. Then I move in my fire piggies, and let my archers open fire. The enemy understandingly doesn't appreciate and rushes in. I sic my piggies on them, which would allow my archers to fire at routing, confused, hurt units.
The piggies run forward....forward.... then they decide to have some revenge on me and double back.
I swear, those fucking pigs went through my ENTIRE line, zigzagging for maximum carnage. My javelins? Still busy running every which way and get trampled by barbarians. My legionnaires? Still reeling from having flaming pigs running into their junks at mach 2, are decimated in seconds. Archers as squishy as hell and could barely do anything, and my artillery that was SUPPOSED to fire at routing targets, fired right into the fray, killing probably more of what little left there were of my men, than my enemy.

To this day, I refuse to use fire pigs, and any AI faction seen using them is presented by an act of war.
FUCK.
FIRE.
PIGS.

 

[Quaxar]

Auto-balance in Team Fortress 2.

Think you just won the game because you managed to ubercharge your team through to victory?

lol nope.

The split second you die right before the game ends you die to a facestab and get autobalanced to the other team.

Right, I am with you on that one. I hate it so much if you do all the work, spend ages strategically placing sentries and teleporters to gain ground for the team and just as you're in the fight for the last control point you get swapped to the other team. Under these special circumstances I usually ragequit because screw that.

 

[Terminate421]

My empoleon was frozen by a kyogre.

My penguin made out of steel with a water typing that lived on the Antarctic with a 4x resistance to ice, froze.

What the fuck?

 

[LostCrusader]

I decided to try Medieval 2 TW on Hard once. I picked Sicily because I thought I would have some decent positioning. 10 turns in, I am 30K in debt because the 5 separate computer groups decided to send a full army to my island without declaring war and just patrolling around and causing devastation to kill my income.

captcha: mother country.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

Any fighter that reads inputs. 15 blows in a row at randomly varying heights? Blocks every single one, no problem then later it'll let you get away with murder because it's decided it's time to start lettng it hit you again. -.-

Jst makes for the worst losses where you randomly are unable to get in a single hit for entire rounds.

Not just that but perfect sequences of combos with move after move that would take five to nine button presses.

Older games from the arcade era pulled cheaper tricks all the time, since time was money and they wanted more quarters.

The most prevalent of these for me, we light gun game boss battles.

The bosses would spam the screen with missiles that completely covered your view and you had to shoot them all down and take massive damage. If you miraculously managed to survive, the boss only appears on screen for a split second in the distance/behind cover/moving frantically before doing another spam attack.

I would've never beat the House of the Dead if my company didn't reserve an arcade for a party that unlocked freeplay.

 

[OctalLord]

Super Robot wars OG 1 and 2 on the GB Advance.

what? the enemies hit rate is 12%? LOL more like 100%

oh you got a 98% hit rate? LOL MORE LIKE 5%

had to spam skills every freaking time late in the game, and god damn if you didnt level up Cybuster you are asking for it to get raped.

Not to even mention the bosses in the second game that have Double Image,(A effect which gurentees them a 50% dodge rate against any attack unless you have the very specific skill that can counteract it. A skill precious few party members have) and another effect which lets the boss regenerate 1/4th or more it's total health at the end of its turn.

I've stopped playing OG2 because one of the final bosses has that combination, couple with him being at the end of a long stage brimming with other similer bosses makes it gameboy smashingly difficult. It's not even the secret stage boss, I don't even wanna know what that guy is like.

 

[lord.jeff]

Dark Sims from Perfect Dark, not only do they have the highest AI settings, meaning they can have perfect accuracy with every weapon, but they have more health and move faster, they are impossible to kill.

 

[baddude1337]

Any game where your character can be attacked whilst getting up from a knock back attack. The worst offenders are those where an enemy can constantly knock you back until you die. (I'm looking at you Lost Planet 2!)

 

[mrhappy1489]

I'd also like to add, when you go to a gym expecting their pokemon to be the specific type you've fought all the way through, then boom, they have some stupid pokemon that is immune or not very effected. Explain to me why clair has a fucking Kingdra so my stupid Ice pokemon are fucking useless. Also I would like to add that it is extremely annoying in the elite four as well. Seriously, why do they have pokemon using moves that are the opposite of their type, that throws strategy out the fucking window.

Ehm... This is for the same reason I carry Ice Beam on my Kingdra.

They have Pokemon with a varied movepool because they are the Elite 4, not random schmuck 46. You have to ADAPT your strategy, think around and counter them by using a fast poke / a meaty poke or at least something that does not get 2x/4x damage through the moves the enemy uses. And if you are really desperate why not use the x-items to boost your defenses?

If I can manage to cut through the Elite 4 in every game with a team containing pokes 10 lvl under the champions Pokemon without any kind of type advantage they can't be hard at all. And no, I do it without EV trained pokes or some kind of special tactics. I start the game and think "This run I'll complete with poison types" and do it.

Somtimes I wish that from the 4th Gym onwards every leader carries a varied team of 4-6 Pokes with a thought out movepool and items like Chesto Berry in combination with Rest. Monotype gyms really do nothing good if people have to face dualtype Pokemon with next to no weaknesses later on (like your Kingdra example, Dragon Water with only weakness being Dragon attacks).

My friend I was just posting this because it irritates me, I never have trouble with the elite 4, or anyone for that matter, all I was saying is that it seems wrong when a dark type pokemon kills my lucario because it happens to have low kick.

 

[Therumancer]

Shin Megami Tensei series (in general), limited save points, and you can run into a group of monsters, lose initiative and get total party wiped (or just lose from main character death in some cases) from a lucky hit with an instant death spell... then it's allll the way back to the beginning of the maze section.

I'm a SMT fan, but no game has done "cheap" better.

Persona 3 & 4, Devil Survivor and The Devil Summoner games are SMT but aren't as bad as some of the earlier ones I played (though they occasionally do that kind of stuff to). In say Digital Devil Saga (either one), or Nocturne it could be absolutly painful sometimes. Monster surprises you! (2" from boss and next save point) Mudo! Boom, back to las save point on the other side of a three dimensional pit filled labyrinth that took me a few hours and a bit of luck to get through.

 

[Balimaar]

I'd also like to add, when you go to a gym expecting their pokemon to be the specific type you've fought all the way through, then boom, they have some stupid pokemon that is immune or not very effected. Explain to me why clair has a fucking Kingdra so my stupid Ice pokemon are fucking useless. Also I would like to add that it is extremely annoying in the elite four as well. Seriously, why do they have pokemon using moves that are the opposite of their type, that throws strategy out the fucking window.

Ehm... This is for the same reason I carry Ice Beam on my Kingdra.

They have Pokemon with a varied movepool because they are the Elite 4, not random schmuck 46. You have to ADAPT your strategy, think around and counter them by using a fast poke / a meaty poke or at least something that does not get 2x/4x damage through the moves the enemy uses. And if you are really desperate why not use the x-items to boost your defenses?

If I can manage to cut through the Elite 4 in every game with a team containing pokes 10 lvl under the champions Pokemon without any kind of type advantage they can't be hard at all. And no, I do it without EV trained pokes or some kind of special tactics. I start the game and think "This run I'll complete with poison types" and do it.

Somtimes I wish that from the 4th Gym onwards every leader carries a varied team of 4-6 Pokes with a thought out movepool and items like Chesto Berry in combination with Rest. Monotype gyms really do nothing good if people have to face dualtype Pokemon with next to no weaknesses later on (like your Kingdra example, Dragon Water with only weakness being Dragon attacks).

My friend I was just posting this because it irritates me, I never have trouble with the elite 4, or anyone for that matter, all I was saying is that it seems wrong when a dark type pokemon kills my lucario because it happens to have low kick.

speaking of pokemon (i think it was sapphire?) my pure pyschic pokemon was absolutely useless in the elite 4. its seemed all their pokemon had a dark attack of some description...

 

[JaceArveduin]

League of Legends.

"Phew, glad I got out of that epic team fight with only a tiny amount of HP left! Ha ha- oh fuck you Twitch."

That's not how you spell Karthus!

I've got to go with... Well, it wasn't cheating, but I was playing Star Wars: Battlefront II when it was me and one last rebel scum. It turns out it was a Bothan and he 1shot me with that damned incinerator from stealth. I consider it cheating cause I can never get a kill with those accursed things.

 

[BaronIveagh]

KoF end boss instantly breaking a combo that can't be broken by players followed by an unblockable room filling one shot kill super while still in the air.

 

[Vegosiux]

"Oh, you didn't pick up that obscurely-mentioned screwdriver on the third turn of the game? Well, sucks to be you, har har!"

Kaizo traps of all kinds. Getting killed after you've already won is just demeaning.

Well, IWBTG should just be named "Cheap ways to kill you: The Game"

League of Legends.

"Phew, glad I got out of that epic team fight with only a tiny amount of HP left! Ha ha- oh fuck you Twitch."

That's not how you spell Karthus!

Yes, even Gangplank is more similar (It has a K in it, too!)

 

[Insomniac55]

Eh have none of you played the computer version of Chess that is included with windows?

Seriously that is CHEATING in every sense of the word.

Once you beef up the difficulty you'll see the computer move pawns like they're queens to stop your strategy. I've also seen the computer move a pawn diagonally behind a pawn I had right beside it... And somehow capture it.



All other cheating is just lol-worthy when next to the madness that is Windows Chess.

It turns out that the move you described is the 'en passant', and it's a legal move.

 

[Skullpanda]

Insane AI in SC2 is just... insane. Thought I had a clever idea, would just go for a really early cheese rush with some marines, but by the time I had my (mind you, proxied) tier 1 marine rush, the AI was doing a push with a few thors...

Edit: To say more specifically why it cheats me out of a win... insane AI harvesters gain about 2x the number of minerals and gas you do, so it's not as if they just play really well, they flat out cheat for extra resources.

I'm 99% sure that SC2 Insane AI automatically starts with 1k in both Minerals and Gas...and at least 1 more harvester than you...not completely sure on that one.

Oh, and if you manage to keep the AI from killing you and force it to mine out...guess what? It will keep giving itself 1k in both gas and minerals. And this is on ANY difficulty. Apparently there is no attrition in space.

 

[Chunga the Great]

Sins of a Solar Empire. I was laying tied up attacking the AIs last 2 planets when they manage to bypass my fleet and enter a wormhole leading the my home planets doorstep. I'd rather delete the save and start again than retreat across 15 fucking planets to defend my home world.

 

[BishopofAges]

Puzzle (dod gamit) Quest, that game cheats. Period. It is played similar or exactly like Bejeweled except the jewels give you mana or damage your opponent or reset the field, etc. and you/the computer take turns moving pieces. You can calculate your moves all you wants and when a line is broken more pieces fall down and maybe you get a combo, maybe not. THE COMPUTER makes ANY move and instantly knows whats to fall next so it goes: MOVE, COMBO, DOUBLE COMBO, 3X COMBO, 4X COMBO! so he has full mana and you're hurting like a bastard.

captcha: orange juice, gimme some.