Child Porn Charges for comedian; edited video makes it appear children were listening to dirty song

[Kair]

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What the FUCK is wrong with these FUCKING pricks, this guy took a harmless video and added funny lyrics and now he's a FUCKING pedophile how the Fuck do they get to that conclusion.

You know it's stuff like that makes me consider crime i mean if there going to send people to jail for nothing whats the FUCKING point in obeying any GOD DAMN LAW.

You realize just now that our current laws are pointless?

 

[qeinar]

this is not really child pornography by any stretch, the only wrong thing the guy really did was lying.

also 20 years? isn't that more than killing a person? pretty shure you could get away with 5-8 years for a murder.

 

[FamoFunk]

Just stupid. Jail for editing a video, nice one American justice.

 

[Dr. Cakey]

What I find most revolting is the sheer amount of negative responses IN THIS TOPIC. The implication that ANYTHING he did was even slightly illegal is absurd. Many of the people in this topic are just as vile as the people charging Emory.

For example, here's my high school FILMING MINORS WITHOUT PERMISSION. THOSE BASTARDS!!!!!

http://gogreenknights.com/2010.Football.Replay.Page.html

Now if people ever passed a law that DID make killing someone in fiction the same as killing them in real life, or make littering a death penelty offense, by all means it should be enforced. The people are simply idiots for having passed the law, but that doesn't mean you should simply ignore it for the sake of conveience.

There was this one black guy who said that there were just laws and unjust laws...now what was his name again...?

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

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They were intentionally quite absurd examples, maybe besides aggravated assault. I should have made it clear I think a crime has been committed here, the filming of children without permission from their guardians, but I don't believe it equates to child pornography which clearly neither do you.

As for the punishment, we do have more than prison and death, there are restraining orders, fines, community service, restriction of rights (to own a camera for example), and there could be a couple more, I'm not researching crime and punishment. He deserves some punishment, enough to remain a deterrent from others doing this without permission, but it shouldn't equate to that of murder or rape. What kind of message are we putting out in a free society when people are too afraid to film their child's plays?

And finally, as for obeying the law simply because it says so, we come to an impart. I will not abide a law I don't have ethical faith in or belief in it's necessity such as that it would impact my or others rights negatively for amoral gain of a third party (like Sony suing Lik Sang).

 

[PhoenixUp]

*facepalm*
I always knew America's legal system was f--ked, but this?!

America: crushing debt, increasing Fundamentalist Christian influence, and young lives being ruined over trivialities like victimless comedy. I need to get the hell out of this country.

 

[Teroch]

To be serious: What the hell?

I mean, it's not like he did sing that song, he just edited it for a laugh on the internet. Probably neither a good idea, nor very funny, but still, "no children were harmed in the progress to create this video", huh?

 

[Jonluw]

Oh my god... Has Fox news gotten a hold of this story yet? That can't possibly end well.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Americans are way too childish when it comes to stuff like this.

I know you weren't trying to be a pest, but could you do me a favor and not talk about me and 300 millions of my countrymen as if we were some kind of homogeneous hive-mind? You can talk about problems within America or certain Americans, but putting it that way makes it seem like you're judging all of us collectively somehow.

 

[Hansinkdu]

Americans are way too childish when it comes to stuff like this.

I know you weren't trying to be a pest, but could you do me a favor and not talk about me and 300 millions of my countrymen as if we were some kind of homogeneous hive-mind? You can talk about problems within America or certain Americans, but putting it that way makes it seem like you're judging all of us collectively somehow.

Agreed. I'm all for bashing my own government, corrupt and broken as hell, but don't label Americans as a single entity (even if the only sane/smart Americans I find are online). We are not the only country with bull$@#% cases regarding the "Think of the children" mentality.

 

[Jonluw]

Snippolainen

Dude, I need to know: Is it illegal to swear in front of children?
I mean, what happens here is apparently that this guy is being prosecuted for making it seem like he talked dirty in front of children. Would there really be repercussions if he actually talked dirty in front of children?

Granted, I don't know how the culture is with swearing in the US, but I'd be surprised if I met a seven year old who doesn't know how to swear at least a little bit.

Both my parents and my teachers have sworn in my presence. Would this have been illegal in the US?

 

[iblis666]

Child porn charges were filed against a 21 year old for editing a video to make it look like he was singing a dirty song to a buch of first graders as a comedy bit. He faces 20 years in prison and 25 years on the sex offender with "producing child porn" on his record.

This is pretty fucking scary; arrested on CHILD PORN charges for editing a video to make it SEEM like 6 year olds were listening to his song? And put on the sex offender list? And people are claiming he should go to jail for something that didn't happen?

This is the shit you get when you start putting limits on personal liberties. You get a comedian in prison for NOT... NOT exposing kids to explicit lyrics, and you get dense assholes making him appear to be a child corrupting monster. This is just a different form of the "Cartoon porn should be illegal" argument

The Man Show actually had a child approach women in a sketch where he was asking them for sex. MADTV and SNL have had a lot of sketches that made it appear kids where exposed to sexual things. Hell the video I uploaded a few days ago was entirely about a joke involving a soda mascot that "Grapes kids in the mouth"

That is ridiculous. i can understand both of the sides but on one side i think the fact they are trying to charge him is ridiculous. He did something and it has been going on for years so why is this going on? I don't care about the freedom of speech but this is just pants on head retarded.

What impact could this video he made have? He sang a normal song there and spliced it together to make a gag video. boy do i hate people.

Should the people who make these be arrested?

if your referring to the people that created barney then yes but if you are talking about the people that edited that video with the beeps then no because thats just fucking funny

lol well the person who edited it made it seem like he was saying sexual things around children. Hows it any different?

im sorry? i think you thought i was arguing with you but if you read it carefully you will see that not only do i think that this trial is stupid and has no basis for even being called child porn but that this sort of thing is so absurd that i couldnt help but make the joke that barney its self and as such its creators have causes more harm to children

i know. But isn't this the exact same thing? Changing audio to make it seem vulgar.

i agree basically there is no difference

 

[Zeraki]

This case is just ridiculous. He will almost certainly be found innocent.

The sad thing is, I don't know if he will or not. In this country, who the hell knows anymore? The sheer fact that this even made it into a real court room is disturbing.

OT

This is beyond idiotic, I haven't seen the video but from what I read it seemed harmless. Was he just singing, or doing pelvic thrusts into the photoshoped kid's faces? I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why he's being charged for child porn, for what sounds like a silly video that contains none.

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I also have to agree with who mentioned Monty Python. Is the government going to hunt down the surviving members of Monty Python, and charge them with child porn for "Every Sperm is Sacred?" Because from this, it sounds like that's all it takes to create child porn.

 

[carnege4]

This case is just ridiculous. He will almost certainly be found innocent.

The sad thing is, I don't know if he will or not. In this country, who the hell knows anymore? The sheer fact that this even made it into a real court room is disturbing.

OT

This is beyond idiotic, I haven't seen the video but from what I read it seemed harmless. Was he just singing, or doing pelvic thrusts into the photoshoped kid's faces? I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why he's being charged for child porn, for what sounds like a silly video that contains none.

He was just singing.

 

[Zeraki]

This case is just ridiculous. He will almost certainly be found innocent.

The sad thing is, I don't know if he will or not. In this country, who the hell knows anymore? The sheer fact that this even made it into a real court room is disturbing.

OT

This is beyond idiotic, I haven't seen the video but from what I read it seemed harmless. Was he just singing, or doing pelvic thrusts into the photoshoped kid's faces? I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why he's being charged for child porn, for what sounds like a silly video that contains none.

He was just singing.

-smashes head on keyboard-

hyu7hyu7hyu7hyu7jgftr5hyu7j

...ahem

Yeah if that's the case, I don't see why he's being brought up on these charges. In fact this just demonstrates how broken the system is. I'm willing to bet the judge is a Quentesson.

 

[Gigano]

Snippolainen

Dude, I need to know: Is it illegal to swear in front of children?
I mean, what happens here is apparently that this guy is being prosecuted for making it seem like he talked dirty in front of children. Would there really be repercussions if he actually talked dirty in front of children?

Granted, I don't know how the culture is with swearing in the US, but I'd be surprised if I met a seven year old who doesn't know how to swear at least a little bit.

Both my parents and my teachers have sworn in my presence. Would this have been illegal in the US?

The lyrics of the thing was somewhat more sexually aggressive [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.265468-Child-Porn-Charges-for-comedian-edited-video-makes-it-appear-children-were-listening-to-dirty-song?page=12#10098927] than mere swearing. Actually saying stuff like that to 6 year olds would land you in jail in Scandinavia as well, and rightly so.

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OT: this is bullcrap, unless there's a lot more to the story than what was presented.
also, personally i feel that to a limited degree, the Harm Principle doesn't apply to child porn. hence, hentai and western animation that portray sex with children should still be punishable. why? because if they are designed to titillate with depictions of sex with children, it means that people with those inclinations are having fuel thrown on their fires. they should be seeking help, not digging themselves further into their depravity. that said, i feel that animated or written child porn should have a much lesser penalty.

also, to clarify, from what i understand, what this guy did shouldn't classify as porn at all, so my above thoughts on child porn would not apply to him.

Conversely, one might speculate that animated child pornography would provide a harmless outlet for a sexuality that - at least for some of them - can't be repressed forever (and they're damn hard to treat, certainly when they aren't motivated for treatment).

Older Scandinavian studies on criminal sociology from back when porn was legalized in 1969 show a remarkable decline in sexual assaults in the following years, so it's certainly not unthinkable that this general trend of "harmless outlets" would apply to this more specific form of pornography as well. That's what I'd lean towards in belief, though there's really no scientifically solid indications either way.

I'd also question whether those who feel arousal from stuff like this mentally consider such "anime style" - positively otherworldly in depiction and personality - characters to be in the same category as "human children".

And without a hint of proof of any discernible harm, I'd consider it unjust on principle to limit individual freedom anyway. No harm, No foul; however foul the material might be.

 

[Jonluw]

Snippolainen

Dude, I need to know: Is it illegal to swear in front of children?
I mean, what happens here is apparently that this guy is being prosecuted for making it seem like he talked dirty in front of children. Would there really be repercussions if he actually talked dirty in front of children?

Granted, I don't know how the culture is with swearing in the US, but I'd be surprised if I met a seven year old who doesn't know how to swear at least a little bit.

Both my parents and my teachers have sworn in my presence. Would this have been illegal in the US?

The lyrics of the thing was somewhat more sexually aggressive [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.265468-Child-Porn-Charges-for-comedian-edited-video-makes-it-appear-children-were-listening-to-dirty-song?page=12#10098927] than mere swearing. Actually saying stuff like that to 6 year olds would land you in jail in Scandinavia as well, and rightly so.

Ah. I was trying to find the clip, but I couldn't, so I just assumed the lyrics were random obscenities; not actually soliciting sex from the children. That would be pretty bad to say in real life, all right.