Child's Play Halts Retake Mass Effect Donation Drive
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In other words EA bitched that they were making them lose money and threatened with lawyers. Charities wouldn't care that the money they're getting is from a source like this unless they were getting negative feed back.
The people that gave negative feed back to Child's Play donation drive should be dragged out onto the street and shot.
The people that gave negative feed back to Child's Play donation drive should be dragged out onto the street and shot.
how is anybody confused about what was going on? it was fairly straightforward... once again, stupid people ruin good things.
also, i'm not sure RTM would be the best acronym. RME seems more accurate.
also, i'm not sure RTM would be the best acronym. RME seems more accurate.
The problem is the bottom-line motivation for the fundraiser was more then a little blurry. I approve of giving money to Child's Play in and of itself, but what was essentially implied (whether intended or not) was that 'We gave money to charity for a new ending Bioware, so if you don't give us one that the same as saying you're against charity' or to put it more succinctly 'Your ending makes sick children cry!', and that for me qualifies as some serious emotional blackmail, which I'm afraid I can't support.Lethos said:I don't get all these people going "garrr, it's so selfish and/or childish for RME to cling onto a charity like that!"
Surely doing the right thing for (what you consider) the wrong reasons, is still the right thing in the end? Furthermore what kind of cynical creature must you be to try and cast people who just collectively raised $80,000 in a bad light?
Can't help but see the irony in that the people who are critical of RME calling RME childish, and then proceeding to let their personal feelings towards RME get in the way of recognizing that a huge pile of money was just raised.
Hold the line
If you want to give money to Child's Play, then do, and feel free to feel good about it. But don't hijack the cause in order to strong-arm people into doing what you say. That's not 'doing the right thing for the wrong reasons', that's 'making a mockery of the concept of charity'.
Sad to see there are so many mongs about. I mean, I know this is the internet and all, but still.
Child's Play have certainly made the right call here - while it was lovely that people donated to charity, no matter what the reason, to have that charity become percived as something it is not because of that is understandably something to be avoided.
If nothing else some good has come out of this even if we have been forced to endure an explosion of mongism.
Child's Play have certainly made the right call here - while it was lovely that people donated to charity, no matter what the reason, to have that charity become percived as something it is not because of that is understandably something to be avoided.
If nothing else some good has come out of this even if we have been forced to endure an explosion of mongism.
I want to call you out for being cheesy, but you're right in a poetic kind of way. I wonder if games that were (almost) universally loved have ever accomplished something similar?SnakeoilSage said:
Oh, shit. Wait. I said I wouldn't post drunk anymore. Well, balls to it.
OT: No. I refuse to think about this. The stupid makes my head hurt. Then again, I've seen pictures of people paying ridiculous amounts for empty boxes of new consoles and dealt with my mothers inability to read anything on a website properly, so I'm not actually all that surprised.
As much as the results of the donated money will be nothing but good, I definitely think we cannot divorce ourselves from the intention that was likely present in a lot of those donating. The campaign took one cause and subverted it for another, all the while acting as a way for many donators to to feel morally upright or argue a veneer of maturity. And that is very unfortunate.
Intentions matter. So while I commend the donations gathered, I will never be able to fully stand back and say that people were doing what they did in good faith.
Intentions matter. So while I commend the donations gathered, I will never be able to fully stand back and say that people were doing what they did in good faith.
I can't help feeling like whomever started this Retake Mass Effect thing was just trolling simple folk. Not to mention that Penny Arcade's artist (I don't know about the writer) was paid by EA to pen artwork for them.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Actually I think that it's just wrong to take advantage of people's blind rage regardless of benefits. Dishonesty is still dishonesty.Somepunctuation said:
We can stand up and cheer all we want for this guy taking advantage of people's natural assumption that the donations were somehow going to produce a new ending for the game, but at the end of the day it was still a rather shady thing to do. Which is exactly why Child's Play didn't want itself associated with RTM, people were donating under the impression the money wasn't going to sick kids but to produce a new ending. Think for a second what kind of reputation that could give the charity. That they're willing to scam people out of their money, (regardless if that's what they were doing at all and if was really just a short sighted twit trying legitimize his nerd rage) if people think they're willing to do that by extension they'd begin to think if the money being given to the charity was really going towards what they said it was. It's a stain on their reputation that could be potentially disastrous in future fundraising endeavors.
So yes it's great that $80,000 was raised but I find the conditions under which the money was collected to be morally questionable, or simply flat out underhanded on the part of RTM's organizer.
Yes, but how do you really feel about the situation?Scrythe said:
OT: I have avoided all of this hubbub because it seemed to be a no win argument no matter what side you were on. Can we please just let it die now? It's gotten too big, too ugly, far too much negative energy is being generated by it, nothing is going to come of it and even the one thing good that might have come out of it has been tainted by the overall negativity of the whole thing.
Okay, first of all.
Secondly... despite the fact that the ending made me want to OD on anti-depressants, I thought donating to a charity just to raise awareness of the ending of Mass Effect 3 was stupid. But at least the money was going to a good cause.
Unfortunately, this paints the entire gaming community in a negative light.
Secondly... despite the fact that the ending made me want to OD on anti-depressants, I thought donating to a charity just to raise awareness of the ending of Mass Effect 3 was stupid. But at least the money was going to a good cause.
Unfortunately, this paints the entire gaming community in a negative light.
It's a damn shame that even with all that money raised for charity, the only thing people are going to remember is that some few people wanted their money back.
Why must groups always be rated on the lowest common denominator? For a few moments, I thought we were taking steps forward.
Why must groups always be rated on the lowest common denominator? For a few moments, I thought we were taking steps forward.
"We have shown our sincerity and passion. We have brought positive attention to the Retake Mass Effect movement," her wrote.
I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to write "her" there. Just FYI.
OT: I was a little worried about attaching RTM to a charity drive. But, many charities partner with corporations to increase awareness about their cause and the corporations get good publicity to boot. However, I don't know how people could have mistaken 'donate to a charity' for 'buy a better ending.' That seems like they didn't read what the charity drive was for and that is their own fault.
I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to write "her" there. Just FYI.
OT: I was a little worried about attaching RTM to a charity drive. But, many charities partner with corporations to increase awareness about their cause and the corporations get good publicity to boot. However, I don't know how people could have mistaken 'donate to a charity' for 'buy a better ending.' That seems like they didn't read what the charity drive was for and that is their own fault.