China Bans Time Travel (Movies)

[Nigh Invulnerable]

What.




I'm not sure what to even think about this. Utterly insane. This just in: Fiction isn't real!

 

[Agayek]

Arguably you could say even longer since ancient Greece. (Mythology is after all fiction right?)

It's disgusting that this is happening, just the CCP tightening their grip on the people. One of these days, its going to come back and bite them in the ass.

Mythology is only fiction if it's not current mythology, and any attempt to say otherwise will get your face caved in by a New King James' Bible.

 

[zehydra]

bahahahaha. This is hilarious

 

[Agayek]

How so? People are allowed to believe whatever they want, but when they come into power, censor the masses, and kill innocent people, how can we tolerate them?

By forcing your opinion onto others, you become the very thing you're trying to stop.

Now, if the people being oppressed by said regime asked for help, that's an entirely different thing, but just stomping in proclaiming "You are democratic now!" is no better than what you're trying to overthrow.

Edit: For clarity's sake, freedom requires a choice. It doesn't matter what you are attempting to do, if you take away their choice (for good or ill), you are not giving them freedom. You are trading on dictator for another.

 

[maninahat]

China bans everything at some point or other. Usually though, the bans are lifted within a few days or weeks.

Reminds me of this awesome chinese commercial (now banned?)

 

[ryai458]

You don't want the commie enslaved Chinese thinking about freedom do you?!?
Also this is really dumb not surprised but still stupid.

 

[drakythe]

How so? People are allowed to believe whatever they want, but when they come into power, censor the masses, and kill innocent people, how can we tolerate them?

By forcing your opinion onto others, you become the very thing you're trying to stop.

Now, if the people being oppressed by said regime asked for help, that's an entirely different thing, but just stomping in proclaiming "You are democratic now!" is no better than what you're trying to overthrow.

Edit: For clarity's sake, freedom requires a choice. It doesn't matter what you are attempting to do, if you take away their choice (for good or ill), you are not giving them freedom. You are trading on dictator for another.

This. QFT. "You are being a dictator by telling people what to do. Now I have a bigger stick, you have to listen to me." You are FORCING your will upon someone else, even if your will is that they have choice. If they don't want that choice/ask for that choice, you are no better than that which you are replacing.

 

[maninahat]

China (the government, not the people) is SO fucked up. They need to pull a Libya.

They tried that back in 1989. About 7000 people got killed.

Not entirely true, no one knows for sure how many people were killed or arrested during the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Though when you take a crowd that big and start shooting into it with machine guns, and rolling out tanks to run them over the number cant be a small one.

To this day no one knows how many people are STILL in prison from that day. It's sad, we argue that we need to go to war in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan because of their crimes against humanity, and then we ignore the biggest perpetrator of that crime. If I were to become president I would start a new campaign, I'd call it:

DEATH TO DICTATORS
ACCEPT DEMOCRACY- OR GET THE FUCK OUT

I don't know if you are being ironic or not, but it shouldn't be up to you to decide whether democracy is best for other countries. What happens if the majority of people like the idea of having a dictating theocracy there (as is quite likely the case)? Sure, they don't have the luxury of choice, but if that is what the majority want then by democratic virtue, that is what they should get.

 

[Rex Fallout]

How so? People are allowed to believe whatever they want, but when they come into power, censor the masses, and kill innocent people, how can we tolerate them?

By forcing your opinion onto others, you become the very thing you're trying to stop.

Now, if the people being oppressed by said regime asked for help, that's an entirely different thing, but just stomping in proclaiming "You are democratic now!" is no better than what you're trying to overthrow.

Edit: For clarity's sake, freedom requires a choice. It doesn't matter what you are attempting to do, if you take away their choice (for good or ill), you are not giving them freedom. You are trading on dictator for another.

This. QFT. "You are being a dictator by telling people what to do. Now I have a bigger stick, you have to listen to me." You are FORCING your will upon someone else, even if your will is that they have choice. If they don't want that choice/ask for that choice, you are no better than that which you are replacing.

In this situation the people did ask for it, got mowed down by machine guns, and the US did nothing. So if I manage the ability to HELP other human beings from an oppressive regime, you are saying I shouldnt do that?

 

[Jaeger_CDN]

Would Dr. Who and Star Trek even be allowed in China anyway? Don't they both sort of explore ideas of personal freedom and morality that an oppressive regime might find slightly dangerous? I'm betting this ban has more to do with the idea that some Chinese filmmakers were mocking important historical figures in a way the government thought was damaging to its image. Kind of like a lesser version of Islam's no Mohammad picture thing.

Ah, but the thing is in this case they have to 'localise it' to the chinese language therefore they can make it say/tweak the dialogue to whatever they want. The CCP has shown in many cases it has no qualms with tinkering of other people's property/websites/etc to suit the Party. That's the joy of being a police state.

As for chinese filmmakers portraying historical figures in a potentially 'bad light', you've probably hit on the real reason for this ban.

BTW this would also mean no 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure' for them either

 

[drakythe]

In this situation the people did ask for it, got mowed down by machine guns, and the US did nothing. So if I manage the ability to HELP other human beings from an oppressive regime, you are saying I shouldnt do that?

The massacre occurred YEARS ago, and I was 2 at the time. As to why we don't go into China and rip their government out, well, I think that involves the fact that China, for all its downfalls, supports a population of over a billion people. A war would not only kill countless thousands in fighting but could/would destabilize the world marketplace, bankrupting entire countries and killing countless more thousands through secondary and tertiary effects. And that is only as long as we both only use standard weapons, no tac nukes, no gas.

There is what is right, and there is what is possible. Sometimes A =! B. and in attempting A, we would do more harm than good.

I don't like China or N. Korea any more than the next guy, but I'm arguing about FORCING democracy on anybody, not just China.

 

[HeySeansOnline]

I have a bad feeling this will create a domino effect. I know living in America I'm so usedto most any topic being covered in the media but still. This will continue onward until we're in an Orwellian society where the same six stories are recycled ovr and over again and anything of controversy is banned.

 

[The Long Road]

Well, all my favorite Trek episodes are illegal in china now...

"Many stories are totally made-up and are made to strain for an effect of novelty."

Gee, China, there's this new thing called 'Fiction', maybe you've heard of it? Its where you make up cool stuff that never happened. It's kinda been big in the rest of the world for, oh, 500 years maybe?

Arguably you could say even longer since ancient Greece. (Mythology is after all fiction right?)

It's disgusting that this is happening, just the CCP tightening their grip on the people. One of these days, its going to come back and bite them in the ass.

Fiction is arguably older than non-fiction. Depending on your perspective, religion is fiction, and that's been around longer than writing or history.

 

[RA92]

Wow. Fox and the Australian rating board have an insurmountable competition.

Take the hint guys: it's your turn.

 

[Spookimitsu]

Man from the future travels back to present day to warn China about the dangers of time-travel in cinema, a selfless effort to save us all, and we ridicule him for it.

 

[Iwana Humpalot]

This makes me wonder if the chinese would have inveted a a time traveling machines and now their goverment tries to cover it up in a really "retarted and obviose" bans and restrictions... Just wondering

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Wait..wha?

Zuh?

o_0

....

I'm speechless.

 

[philosophicalbastard]

What if the story is about a socialist worker representing proletariat who would travel back in time to bring communism to the USA to save its citizens from being devoured by the cancer of capitalism ?

China is making a profit on our capatilism right now, so I assume that would be banned to.

DEATH TO DICTATORS
ACCEPT DEMOCRACY- OR GET THE FUCK OUT

I prefer this policy:

DEATH TO THOSE THAT DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR CITIZENS
LEARN TO CARE OR GET THE FUCK OUT

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Banning time travel is their way of saying;

"Stop hoping and dreaming that you can change how crappy your life is. We will always be in total control of this country while you will always live in poverty."