If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. Deuteronomy 2:22-29Aerodyamic said:Paul said "And Man shall not lay with Man, as he would lay with a woman...", which, to my eyes, leaves a variety of other positions available. Doggy, spooning, Jackhammer, whatever turns your crank, I suppose. As far as the 'no sex without intention of procreation', I'm struggling to recall if it was considered a cardinal sin to have sex for fun, since it could be construed as either Lust or Gluttony, depending on your point of view. It's also potentially be a venal sin, under the pretense of Fornication, but I think that specifically requires that you NOT be married at all.Samurai Goomba said:Paul talked about men "not ought to lie with men as a man does with a woman" or some such. Technically, I don't remember Jesus ever mentioning it. It was Paul, if I'm not mistaken.
Either way, though, this whole issue isn't even ABOUT homosexuality... It's about perceived homosexuality in an old board game. No need to start up a religious debate off of this one, just write it off to the stupidity of one moron parent.
Don't judge me based on the actions of somebody I've never met who claims to represent my faith. If there's one thing we don't need another of here, it's a religious flaming thread. I'm going to laugh at her idiocy and move on.
Other than that, God did wipe Sodom off the map, like a unwanted booger, for the 'wanton, sinful lives that they permitted within the town' (not a direct quote), so I suppose most Christians use that as evidence that God hates Fags. Let's remember, though, than God killed Onan for pulling out and busting his nut on the ground, rather than succesfully impregnating this widow of his recently deceased brother. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan
I still wonder about this whole 'Homosexual Agenda' thing that the right-wing fundamentalist Christian groups keep yammering about. What exactly does it entail? Are they trying to make men wear pastels, talk with a breathy lisp, and watch HGTV? Will women have to wear checkered chambray shirts, ride Harleys and stop shaving their legs? If it's just a matter of wanting to prevent gay marriage, I'm really confused, because I'd have thought they'd want EVERYONE to be miserable (married).
It'd even help the tax base, since child-less couples pay more in taxes than those with children, right?
Surely you could just say something alone the lines of "Because some women like to marry other women, and someone women don't."? I mean, you don't have to go into full-specifics about it, just as you wouldn't if you're kid asked about why women marry men.squid5580 said:Oh I don't want to explain homosexuality to my 6 year old. That must mean I am anti gay. Oh I also don't want to talk about the birds and the bees with her either. I guess that means I am anti procreation as well.
I was using "was" as a statement that the thread had devolved from a news thread into a "HUR BASH BASH BASH" flame-fest.The_root_of_all_evil said:I would have thought the ellipse was the key part as it was a discussion on the news story but then went off without people actually reading it.
Daddy, why do women marry women? "Well, because they love each other."Armitage Shanks said:Surely you could just say something alone the lines of "Because some women like to marry other women, and someone women don't."? I mean, you don't have to go into full-specifics about it, just as you wouldn't if you're kid asked about why women marry men.squid5580 said:Oh I don't want to explain homosexuality to my 6 year old. That must mean I am anti gay. Oh I also don't want to talk about the birds and the bees with her either. I guess that means I am anti procreation as well.
This Christian Conservative says hello. So... Generalize things you don't understand much?Danman1 said:I f#CKING HATE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES! Im not gay but I might start giving out tug-jobs behind my families church out of spite
Samurai Goomba said:This Christian Conservative says hello. So... Generalize things you don't understand much?Danman1 said:I f#CKING HATE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES! Im not gay but I might start giving out tug-jobs behind my families church out of spite
One woman is not indicative of all Christianity. If a person (speaking generally here) is too stupid to figure this out, I hold little hope for them.
Also, you post a swear, but censor it? You're already blatantly insulting an entire group of people, I fail to see how adding a "u" makes your statement any more obnoxious or ignorant than it already is. Perhaps this is a feeble attempt to avoid moderation while simultaneously blasting an entire group, either for personal reasons unexplained or the actions of a single woman?
It astonished me that it did raise so much ire, but then I suppose both the Gay groups and the Christian groups are getting used to taking flak whether it's intended or not.scotth266 said:I was using "was" as a statement that the thread had devolved from a news thread into a "HUR BASH BASH BASH" flame-fest.The_root_of_all_evil said:I would have thought the ellipse was the key part as it was a discussion on the news story but then went off without people actually reading it.
Not that that's your fault: you were just reporting an incident that occurred and happened to use a title that has obviously led some to jump to conclusions. That's more why I don't like the title, but at least now I understand you meant nothing by the wording of it.
Oh yeah, they're both USED to taking flak. The thing is that they shouldn't HAVE to. The issue here is communication: most non-Christians seem to assume that all Christians think the same way... which they don't. The ones that wind up saying things like this are the hardcore traditionalists, the fundamentalists, and the prudes. The Church is also filled with forward thinkers, philosophers, and scientists: but nobody likes to acknowledge them because that limits how they can start their little pissing contests.The_root_of_all_evil said:It astonished me that it did raise so much ire, but then I suppose both the Gay groups and the Christian groups are getting used to taking flak whether it's intended or not.
You can see why I chose the story though
monopoly teaches greed, a deadly sin.bowserboy26578 said:christians are nuts either way, if it wasn't this game it'd be something stupider like monopoly