Uh...yeah. I'm an atheist myself, and even I can see you're the one who totally just 'started it'. Not that I don't agree with you on the subject as a whole, but still.Billion Backs said:
Church Protesting San Diego Comic-Con For "Idol Worship"
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Knowing those people, they'd probably say the song promotes being friends with the Devil or something along those lines.Marik2 said:
In an interview I read he said that he didn`t agree the teachings of the Catholic church, he said they are like doctors that make people think they need medicine so that they can make money, or something along those lines. Though I know he was raised Catholic, I think he was more agnostic, though I`m not sure.MurderousToaster said:
We need to get a group together to all get dressed up as various super-heroes and protest their protest...
Edit: I found the article
http://web.archive.org/web/20001212165000/www.hmmagazine.com/archives/Dio.htm
As a Topeka resident, and a long-time opponent of the Phelps' Westboro Baptist 'Church,' I'd like to point out something that people often tend to miss when reacting to their offensive lunacy: It's a con job.
Fred Phelps has a long history of using his religious trappings to advance con games, from having his children sell "fund-raising" candy bars for which he never paid the candy companies, to advertising for a church organ and selling every one that was donated, and on and on. This is the most convoluted of his schemes, but to a large extent, it's just another con. Here's how it works:
1. There is a federal law (I believe it is the Equal Access to Justice Act) that mandates that legal fees and costs incurred in the process of suing the government to overturn a law on civil rights grounds (amongst other issues) must be paid by the governing body that passed the law.
2. Fred Phelps made his children attend law school, and many of them are practicing lawyers for Phelps Chartered law firm.
3. The Phelps cult shows up and engages in the most outrageous activities and uses the most offensive slogans they can come up with, usually targeted at a law that is Constitutionally vulnerable, like a flag desecration law or an anti-picketing ordinance.
4. If they are cited, they sue.
a.) If they lose, Fred pays nothing to his children. On to the next picket.
b.) If they win, Fred makes up whatever legal fees and billable hours he thinks he can get away with and hands a bill to the government.
5. Rinse and repeat.
Properly executed, it's a license to print money, provided one has no ethics, compassion, morality or soul. Which, of course, makes it the perfect scheme for "Reverend" Phelps.
Fred Phelps has a long history of using his religious trappings to advance con games, from having his children sell "fund-raising" candy bars for which he never paid the candy companies, to advertising for a church organ and selling every one that was donated, and on and on. This is the most convoluted of his schemes, but to a large extent, it's just another con. Here's how it works:
1. There is a federal law (I believe it is the Equal Access to Justice Act) that mandates that legal fees and costs incurred in the process of suing the government to overturn a law on civil rights grounds (amongst other issues) must be paid by the governing body that passed the law.
2. Fred Phelps made his children attend law school, and many of them are practicing lawyers for Phelps Chartered law firm.
3. The Phelps cult shows up and engages in the most outrageous activities and uses the most offensive slogans they can come up with, usually targeted at a law that is Constitutionally vulnerable, like a flag desecration law or an anti-picketing ordinance.
4. If they are cited, they sue.
a.) If they lose, Fred pays nothing to his children. On to the next picket.
b.) If they win, Fred makes up whatever legal fees and billable hours he thinks he can get away with and hands a bill to the government.
5. Rinse and repeat.
Properly executed, it's a license to print money, provided one has no ethics, compassion, morality or soul. Which, of course, makes it the perfect scheme for "Reverend" Phelps.
Really crazy religious people need to learn to seriously, not shove there own religion down someone else's throat. If you want to beleive what you want to beleive, fine sure, good luck to you, but don't force me to be a christian, a muslum, or whatever. If you wanna talk to me WIHOUT USING INSULTS OR THREATS, and try and covert me, go head. But don't hate me and "shun" me for beleiving something else. Seriously it's like, the bible is there life. Sorry for the rant, but yea.
You know, when people ask me why I hate religion, and stories like this pop up, I don't see why they're having a hard time figuring out why that is.
Fuck you WBC.
Fuck you WBC.
Comics have the balls to admit they are works of fiction, thats why people love them more than the bible.
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I could just as easily say that the Church's idolatry is putting pressure against my own beliefs. Of course, I am Christian, but on my own terms. There is not a single institution that comes anywhere near my beliefs as a Christian. Last time I looked, the Bible was a book written by men thousands of years ago. Sure it's good reading, but too much violence has led from people putting so much stock in it.
The WBC is an attention-whoring joke.
And they also seem to have done an awful lot of research into the supposedly evil comic books.
UNLEASH THE COMIC BOOK FANS!
And they also seem to have done an awful lot of research into the supposedly evil comic books.
UNLEASH THE COMIC BOOK FANS!
You people do realize that these WBC guys want you to react to them. They want you to attack them, throw things at them, hit them, or anything that would give them grounds to retaliate against you legally.
As woodrobin said, it's all a big con. I realized this when I saw one part of a video on them, and it was mentioned that one of them was a lawyer. When they mentioned that in the video, it suddenly all became clear. With a lawyer in their group, or possibly more than one as woodrobin suggested, they are no doubt well aware of just how far they can go while still remaining within the law. However if anyone makes a move against them, like hitting them or throwing things at them or whatever, they'd be well within their rights to sue that person or persons for everything their worth.
And it's probably also as woodrobin said, they're trying to get cited for pushing the limits so they can sue for that too. Regardless, it's a big con job. They should be handled like Internet trolls, and ignored.
As woodrobin said, it's all a big con. I realized this when I saw one part of a video on them, and it was mentioned that one of them was a lawyer. When they mentioned that in the video, it suddenly all became clear. With a lawyer in their group, or possibly more than one as woodrobin suggested, they are no doubt well aware of just how far they can go while still remaining within the law. However if anyone makes a move against them, like hitting them or throwing things at them or whatever, they'd be well within their rights to sue that person or persons for everything their worth.
And it's probably also as woodrobin said, they're trying to get cited for pushing the limits so they can sue for that too. Regardless, it's a big con job. They should be handled like Internet trolls, and ignored.
No, i don't think it's the violence that's made less people put stock in it. Hell, during the times of the crusades more people believed it than they do now. The reason is globalization and the rather lax societal view we have regarding personal beliefs now, seeing as they don't affect us as profoundly or as often as they did years past.Fbuh said:
Hum... That quote sounds oddly like the words of a troll... funny that. Remember children, if you don't feed the trolls they'll starve to death for want of attentional and die chocking on their own stupidity.
It's nice that freedom of speech is extended to all people and it's even better that I have the right to ignore them. Have fun protesting and good luck slaying those windmills!
It's nice that freedom of speech is extended to all people and it's even better that I have the right to ignore them. Have fun protesting and good luck slaying those windmills!
