Cigarettes should be illegal.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Cars under a certain gas mileage should be illegal, stupid people should be illegal, drugs not so much as banning it creates more trouble.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I'm perfectly fine with making cigarette smoking "illegal" in public as long as the government uses the tax revenew from cigarettes to build smoking designated areas. That way, smokers can still smoke in public but they'd be segregated from non smokers.

Can we do that with cars too? They pollute way more than any smoker!

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I don't smoke, I don't plan to smoke but I still get sick of people attacking smokers. People smoke outside in public places because there is no inside for them to legally smoke in anymore after all (in the US anyway). Bring back smoking sections in bars and restaurants and you'll find less people loitering outside of places by the doorways. If you're in a public park though, or any other public, outdoor area, I don't see any problem in people smoking.

 

[Stripes]

I think smoking them outside should be curbed, or at least reduced in public areas, but not banned.

I dislike when I go to somewhere like a hospital or shopping centre and I have to walk through the cloud of smoke caused by all the smokers.

We banned smoking in any public building, as in a bilding with access to the public. Things feel so much cleaner now, when you go abroad you notice just how awful it is when people smoke in an enclosed area.

OP, how does something being natural or unnatural change hoow good/bad it is? Also how does Weed help people, aside from medicinal uses? (genuine question).

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

We're just going around in circles here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't comparable. It is vastly easier to stop minors from buying alcohol then it would be a pregnant woman.

This is the part where I bring up your previous comment about pregnant women drinking at home. How do you stop kids form stealing their parent alcohol when they are not looking?

Kids drinking isn't illegal (at least it's not here). It's selling them the alcohol in the first place. Not selling a minor alcohol is a lot easier than not selling a pregnant woman alcohol.

Ok, while here it is illegal for children to consume alcohol.

 

[solemnwar]

I don't smoke, I don't plan to smoke but I still get sick of people attacking smokers. People smoke outside in public places because there is no inside for them to legally smoke in anymore after all (in the US anyway). Bring back smoking sections in bars and restaurants and you'll find less people loitering outside of places by the doorways. If you're in a public park though, or any other public, outdoor area, I don't see any problem in people smoking.

The only time people should attack smokers is when the douchey ones decide to blow the smoke right in your face. Then the ************ deserves a good right hook to the mouth.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Can we do that with cars too? They pollute way more than any smoker!

Cars are a "necessity", cigarettes are not. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to compromise.

Cars are not a necessity for the populace. For a select few who can drive sanely maybe but not for the masses who constantly abuse it.

 

[Elate]

-snip-

Yes I am aware of all of that, what's your point though? Homosexuality used to be illegal too, lookie I can make arbitrary points as well. Guess that should be illegal too actually, putting things in your ass can be causing harm to oneself if you don't do it properly.

Oh god, what about over eating, that causes serious harm, we should make that illegal, and put limits on the amount of food people are allowed to buy. Using computers to long as been proven to damage the body, we better have computers auto-shut down when they've been logged in for too long, and not start up for 1 hour. Drinking? Liver damage, must be made illegal. Staying in the sun too long causes sun burn, everyone must wear max factor sun lotion, if not they get a $2000 fine and possible prison time.

But wait.. Being in prison seriously endangers ones life, with all the shanking, that should be made illegal too, so, people who go to prison are constantly committing a crime.. THUS WE MUST EXECUTE THEM.

DO YOU SEE HOW SILLY THIS GETS?! People should be able to do, what they want, with their body. Anything, so long as it doesn't hard others, cocaine, heroin, weed, tobacco, alcohol, you name it. Sure give them counseling and inform them of the dangers, but at the end of the day, it's their choice.

 

[Imper1um]

I dislike cigarettes as much as anyone, but who am I to tell people how to live their lives?

The same argument could be made for Marijuana. If you want to ban Marijuana (which has no permanent harmful effects), then you should ban Cigs too because then you're "Telling people how to live their life".

To me, I think you can't have it both ways. You ban both or you ban neither, because the thing is, Cigs are harmful to not only yourself, but to others. Meanwhile, those that smoke Marijuana, regardless of the closeness to another smoker, don't cause any harmful effects.

So, that's my argument.

 

[godofslack]

Absolutely not, the silly argument that a substance is harmful that it should be banned for consumption is so disingenuous, the belief that big brother is watching out for me so he'll send me to prison for years because I am harming myself. It's stupid, the mere idea that an adult can't make their own decisions about their health, is insulting. Regardless even if I did prescribe to that nanny state stuff, I'd still think it's a stupid idea because making drugs illegal makes them profitable for drug cartels. By banning cigarettes you'd instantly displace tons of jobs, cost your country a major industry and increase crime.

 

[Eamar]

I dont like smoking, people who smoke... stink. To put it bluntly. You don't notice it when you're around smoke but when you're not it hits you like a wall of gross.

Oh my god this. So, so much. Once of my housemates smokes, which is her own business. But she frequently does it in the house, and when I come back home the stink is ridiculous. Genuinely overpowering. And it gets into everything and is so hard to get out, and I loathe it >.<

The thing is, when I confront her about it she denies that she's done it. The majority of smokers have absolutely no idea how much they and everything they smoke around stink. Might be something for some of them to consider, I guess. I find it hilarious when kids honestly believe their parents don't know they smoke, because nine times out of ten you can smell it a mile off. No amount of gum or breath mints is going to get the smell out of your hair and clothes.

 

[solemnwar]

Snip of rage.

... why are you attacking me? I was just pointing out that it was (is?) illegal to off yourself... In fact, if you scroll up, there's a post of me saying that we shouldn't make this shit illegal.

edit: I accidentally a word. Fixed now.

 

[Stripes]

I think smoking them outside should be curbed, or at least reduced in public areas, but not banned.

I dislike when I go to somewhere like a hospital or shopping centre and I have to walk through the cloud of smoke caused by all the smokers.

We banned smoking in any public building, as in a bilding with access to the public. Things feel so much cleaner now, when you go abroad you notice just how awful it is when people smoke in an enclosed area.

OP, how does something being natural or unnatural change hoow good/bad it is? Also how does Weed help people, aside from medicinal uses? (genuine question).

We didn't ban literacy though.

I know smoking inside is banned, I mean outside. If you need to get into one of these buildings the smokers just crowd around the entrance so you have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into the building.

I did nothing to invite your scorn so please stop being such an unlike-able pedant. You cant tell people they cant do something entirely because it inconveniences you, I dont know where you go because I dont see smokers around much and when I do they tend to be pretty considerate/avoidable by getting out of the way. I dont know why Im responding since your being pretty unpleasant.

 

[The Ubermensch]

Legalise all of the drugs, regulate and tax the shit out of them, and all will be well.

People who want these drugs can get them through legal channels, less gang related violence

If you had a good social system you could recognise problematic addicts and help them when they need it

I could get blazed after a long day... well I can now... but you know, legaly

 

[Elate]

Snip of rage.

... why are you attacking me? I was just pointing out that it was (is?) illegal to off yourself... In fact, if you scroll up, there's a post of me saying that we shouldn't make this shit illegal.

edit: I accidentally a word. Fixed now.

Because I'm a very angry little man that's why. But no, it isn't illegal, least not in the UK, illegal to assist though.

 

[Tiamattt]

I'm perfectly fine with making cigarette smoking "illegal" in public as long as the government uses the tax revenew from cigarettes to build smoking designated areas. That way, smokers can still smoke in public but they'd be segregated from non smokers.

Pretty much this. I really don't care what people put into their bodies, I only ask that none of it goes into me.

 

[orangeban]

Banning cigarettes wouldn't help shit. If you want people to stop smoking (which I do, but note that is different from forcing people to stop smoking, I just think it would be a good idea), you have to create a cultural attitude in which smoking is not cool. In the UK, this is starting to work, for every cool kid who smokes, you have a wheezing person who smokes a packet a day and is not many steps from dying. Not cool.

Plus, the intentionally ridiculous price of cigarettes is a serious put-off for anyone considering smoking.

Really, the bigger problem is alcohol. Scotland in particular has a MASSIVE problem with alcohol, the problem is we just live in a drinking culture. Drinking is a leisure activity in itself.

 

[Raven's Nest]

A small part of me dies everytime I hear somebody trying to convince people that smoking weed is less harmful than tobacco....

 

[solemnwar]

Snip of rage.

... why are you attacking me? I was just pointing out that it was (is?) illegal to off yourself... In fact, if you scroll up, there's a post of me saying that we shouldn't make this shit illegal.

edit: I accidentally a word. Fixed now.

Because I'm a very angry little man that's why. But no, it isn't illegal, least not in the UK, illegal to assist though.

I know how to fix that! Hugs! HUGS FOR EVERYONE!
[sub]... why does everyone run away? ;-;[/sub]

Yeah I was doing some research, most places it isn't illegal, just the assisting. Which... I guess kind of makes sense... "But officer! They WANTED me to kill them! See, I even have a suicide note requesting that I bash them in the face with a hammer!"

... I'm a terrible person. That mental image made me bust out laughing...

 

[gideonkain]

Weed is less harmful than cigarettes. At least weed help people in a way. That and it's natural unlike the thousands of chemicals in the average cigarette. And in what way does a cigarette help anybody. If you know a way please tell me. But they should just ban them without hesitation.

Free speech and guns cause a lot of trouble too.