Clarification needed: Why do women LOVE Twilight?
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The series is based around teenage sexual insecurity.
Edward really, really, really wants to fuck Bella. This makes him an appealing character for people who are worried attracting men: an Edward will always love you, and you don't have to worry about trying to be smart or pretty or interesting or confident or treating him well.
But Edward is continuously exercising a massive amount of self-control over his obsessive lust, always worried about "hurting" her and whatever. This makes him an appealing character for people who are also worried about what to actually do in a relationship: an Edward will never truly ask anything from you, he'll never encourage you to have sex, he'll never do anything but comply with your desires. He's a harmless male because he's psychologically chained up.
So, there you go: Edward is a "perfect" fictional male for a particular kind of sexually insecure teen. Of course, if you don't share Meyer's mindset, he's just a creepy douche.
In another universe, one in which Meyer was a very talented writer and was doing more than just putting her own fantasies down on paper uncritically, there could be some kind of very interesting creepy D/S emotional abuse thing going on between the protagonists.
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Edward really, really, really wants to fuck Bella. This makes him an appealing character for people who are worried attracting men: an Edward will always love you, and you don't have to worry about trying to be smart or pretty or interesting or confident or treating him well.
But Edward is continuously exercising a massive amount of self-control over his obsessive lust, always worried about "hurting" her and whatever. This makes him an appealing character for people who are also worried about what to actually do in a relationship: an Edward will never truly ask anything from you, he'll never encourage you to have sex, he'll never do anything but comply with your desires. He's a harmless male because he's psychologically chained up.
So, there you go: Edward is a "perfect" fictional male for a particular kind of sexually insecure teen. Of course, if you don't share Meyer's mindset, he's just a creepy douche.
In another universe, one in which Meyer was a very talented writer and was doing more than just putting her own fantasies down on paper uncritically, there could be some kind of very interesting creepy D/S emotional abuse thing going on between the protagonists.
-- Alex
Because Twilight is Gay and Women like gay shit. It is the way it always has been. If it were to change the whole universe would asplode.
Must ...resist ...urge ...to ... be.... grammar... Nazi.... but... urge.... too...strong.... IT'S SPELLED PEDOPHILE! ARGGH! WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOU AT SCHOOL?! SHITSLUTCOCKS!101194 said:
truly idk
but my school is full of twilight lovers and they all make me want to gouge out my eyes,dip my head in acid and spend ten hours in a confined space with dick cheney and his wheelchiar
but my school is full of twilight lovers and they all make me want to gouge out my eyes,dip my head in acid and spend ten hours in a confined space with dick cheney and his wheelchiar
Explanation:
Pre-teen/young-teens handsome prince-like fantasy bad boy.
When the actor who plays the main character gets married it will be hilarious to hear the response from all the enraged fangirls frothing at the mouth.
Pre-teen/young-teens handsome prince-like fantasy bad boy.
When the actor who plays the main character gets married it will be hilarious to hear the response from all the enraged fangirls frothing at the mouth.
I think it's because these girl who haven't read a book that they weren't force to ever feel like they accomplished some big feat and thing that Twilight is a pinnacle of literary mastery. Despite the fact that It's a complete rip off with size eighteen font and the fact that it's a hardback make it ridiculously expensive. And these girls and boys, thinking that they've read some huge book despite its grandma size font and ridiculous margin feel that they are now scholars who have the right to piss on everybody else.
As for the pedophile vampire. He's a pedophile. People say there's a maturity difference between highschool freshmen and seniors. How about a hundred plus year old who's lived through two world wars, the great depression, cold war, every defining moment in the history of humanity for the last century and ends up somehow acting like an immature teenager? Bull.
As for the pedophile vampire. He's a pedophile. People say there's a maturity difference between highschool freshmen and seniors. How about a hundred plus year old who's lived through two world wars, the great depression, cold war, every defining moment in the history of humanity for the last century and ends up somehow acting like an immature teenager? Bull.
I'll tell you what, let's all bash the movie huh? When the fuck have movies made from novels ever been decent? Some of the best books I've read have been cinemised, which is usually followed by cries of "OMGZ!!11! DIS IZ SHITTT!" (A recent example- The Golden Compass. Or as it's properly called- The Northern Lights). Yeah, the movie is shit. So read the books, then make your mind up.
I'm a guy, I've read the first 3 books (borrowing the fourth soon) and they're actually *not that bad*. Ok, I also can't see why Edward gets hyped up so much- the guy's a douche half the time, but hey.
More to the point, here's an interesting social investigation- Compare Darren Shan's Vampire novels to Ms. Meyer's series. Both feature teenagers experiencing vampirism, but whilst Darren Shan is targetting males (and so the book features gore, fights and the "oh no I can't be with humans" is brushed over), the Twilight series minimizes the gore and fights, instead FOCUSING on the humanity of it.
A summary:
Movies of Books are shit. End of.
Edward Cullen is just as flawed as the rest of us guys, but as love is blind and the narrative is through the eyes of someone who is in love with him, we see little of these.
Guys- Read the novel. Even if you just borrow it, I'd say it's worth a read.
Girls- Stop having a go at guys staring at Ms. Jolie's assets if you're gonna drool over Edward.
That is all.
And for the record- yes, I am very happily straight.
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Oh no! It's a hardback!! Guess what? They invented these things called softbacks- quite a bit cheaper, which I understand was your gripe here. The font size wasn't anything noticably larger or smaller than standard, or at least I didn't pick up on it.
And finally, the assumption that we feel that we're scholars for finishing the book? Nah, we're just better informed to talk about it, on account of not just having watched a screen for three hours. Scholars are people who are better informed and more aware of the full subject that they are talking about, so in a way you're right.
I'm a guy, I've read the first 3 books (borrowing the fourth soon) and they're actually *not that bad*. Ok, I also can't see why Edward gets hyped up so much- the guy's a douche half the time, but hey.
More to the point, here's an interesting social investigation- Compare Darren Shan's Vampire novels to Ms. Meyer's series. Both feature teenagers experiencing vampirism, but whilst Darren Shan is targetting males (and so the book features gore, fights and the "oh no I can't be with humans" is brushed over), the Twilight series minimizes the gore and fights, instead FOCUSING on the humanity of it.
A summary:
Movies of Books are shit. End of.
Edward Cullen is just as flawed as the rest of us guys, but as love is blind and the narrative is through the eyes of someone who is in love with him, we see little of these.
Guys- Read the novel. Even if you just borrow it, I'd say it's worth a read.
Girls- Stop having a go at guys staring at Ms. Jolie's assets if you're gonna drool over Edward.
That is all.
And for the record- yes, I am very happily straight.
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Sorry dude, I have to disagree. Now, I admit that the books aren't any Subtle Knife or Angels+Demons, but I can't see how it "forces" anyone to feel that. It's a book that is written well in some parts, not so well in others.InifniteWit said:
Oh no! It's a hardback!! Guess what? They invented these things called softbacks- quite a bit cheaper, which I understand was your gripe here. The font size wasn't anything noticably larger or smaller than standard, or at least I didn't pick up on it.
And finally, the assumption that we feel that we're scholars for finishing the book? Nah, we're just better informed to talk about it, on account of not just having watched a screen for three hours. Scholars are people who are better informed and more aware of the full subject that they are talking about, so in a way you're right.