"Classics" that you were underwhelmed by.
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LOL. I don't know if you are referring him as he was a composer from the Classical period, his work is Classical music or that many people consider him a great composer.Novs said:
Well to be honest he's not that great composer (I must agree that his Requiem was bloody-fucking great, one of my favorites) and that I don't really like his music (except his Requiem of course) except there now and again. He reached popularity because his age. He was already a virtuoso by the age of four and composed with great ease and his work was great (for that time), that's why people remember him. When he died people forgot him (I like to guess there was already starting something similar to pop music in that point) for at least 60 years until someone started classifying his work, offering great sums of money for his works. Unfortunately people started composing and even changing the compositions signature and selling to this person, and since this person did not study music and didn't play an instrument he didn't really saw the difference between pieces. Up until this day there still are pieces that are discarded as Mozart's.
People suddenly remembered Mozart not because his music, but because someone offered money for his pieces which were scattered all over Europe. After that, he got remembered as a virtuoso and someone who managed something that takes years and years of study to even try to be at the level that Mozart was at that point. He rightfully deserves this title, but for me he might have been exposed a little too much to everyone...
OT: Music: Ac/Dc for some reason.
Movies: Still have to decide to be honest.
Games: A lot. Oblivion, Morrowind, KotOR, GTA: SA, BioShock, Fallout 3, every Resident Evil, Deus Ex, Call of Duty 4, American McGee's Alice, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, and many, many more.
As for games, easily Half Life 2. I understood that the gameplay and graphics were going to be very retro, and that didn't actually bother me at all, it was the characters and the setting that did it in for me. I've heard so often about how amazingly characterised and immersive it all is... bollocks, I say. At no point did I feel anything was fleshed out, and though this is my opinion granted, I didn't like any of the supporting cast. Got most of the way to the end before just giving up... I honestly didn't care enough about anyone to work for their survival.
For movies, Bladerunner was dissapointing. I have to admit I adored the setting and the music above all else, but the actual story and script? Lackluster, didn't care for it. The main villain though is still one of my favourites, but that's mostly because of the actor's amazing job.
Catcher in the Rye, from the perspective of someone who is a writer, was a waste of paper.
For movies, Bladerunner was dissapointing. I have to admit I adored the setting and the music above all else, but the actual story and script? Lackluster, didn't care for it. The main villain though is still one of my favourites, but that's mostly because of the actor's amazing job.
Catcher in the Rye, from the perspective of someone who is a writer, was a waste of paper.
FPS's are my least favorite genre, but Bioshock is one of those games you feel obligated to play for yourself. I loved the Randian themes and art style, but the gameplay was lacking for me.Woodsey said:
Lord of the flies, by William Golding. It's good and all, but unlike 1984, it didn't really hook me in, or shock me.
The following films feature on the IMDB Top 250 list (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top), yet I would rate them average to poor. I have seen 212 out of 250, so some (like the Social Network) I haven't seen. I wouldn't recommend people to not watch these, but bare in mind that they are nowhere near as good as people say they are. The following are average to poor:
8. 8.8 Inception (2010) 342,187
10. 8.8 The Dark Knight (2008) 525,091
12. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 407,740
33. 8.6 Toy Story 3 (2010) 126,265
49. 8.5 WALL·E (2008) 213,964
56. 8.5 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 215,277
61. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 247,575
67. 8.4 L.A. Confidential (1997) 179,862
75. 8.4 Black Swan (2010) 120,964
91. 8.3 Inglourious Basterds (2009) 221,218
120. 8.2 Heat (1995) 161,461
136. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 72,572
139. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001) 235,535
170. 8.1 Avatar (2009) 313,953
192. 8.0 Star Trek (2009) 156,602
218. 8.0 Children of Men (2006) 177,283
8. 8.8 Inception (2010) 342,187
10. 8.8 The Dark Knight (2008) 525,091
12. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 407,740
33. 8.6 Toy Story 3 (2010) 126,265
49. 8.5 WALL·E (2008) 213,964
56. 8.5 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 215,277
61. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 247,575
67. 8.4 L.A. Confidential (1997) 179,862
75. 8.4 Black Swan (2010) 120,964
91. 8.3 Inglourious Basterds (2009) 221,218
120. 8.2 Heat (1995) 161,461
136. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 72,572
139. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001) 235,535
170. 8.1 Avatar (2009) 313,953
192. 8.0 Star Trek (2009) 156,602
218. 8.0 Children of Men (2006) 177,283
I wonder how many of these opinions come from academically minded individuals. There is a huge difference in how, say, a Bachelor of English will dissect a narrative and how a layman will.
"Blade Runner," I must confess, is a movie I have never seen. "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?", the novel by Dick on which it is based, I have read and quite enjoyed. The point of the novel is how it's a postcolonial piece. It's a critique on specific paradigms found at the time it was written. Many of the points it makes - particularly the anti-war sentiments coupled with a frustration and acknowledgement of the necessity of the police - ARE still culturally relevant. Once again, I know the movie has been altered substantially from the novel but I have not seen it.
Anyway, education is important to appreciate things. Some people complain that this exposure "ruins" literature for them; others find the exact opposite. The latter finds a way to vocalize their dislike of a work, and can now not only explain why they liked something, but they can find new interpretations to further their enjoyment.
This is not to dismiss pacing (I can't stand anything written between Pope and the Modernists, for example), but there's no nice way to say this. You don't like it because you don't get it.
"Blade Runner," I must confess, is a movie I have never seen. "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?", the novel by Dick on which it is based, I have read and quite enjoyed. The point of the novel is how it's a postcolonial piece. It's a critique on specific paradigms found at the time it was written. Many of the points it makes - particularly the anti-war sentiments coupled with a frustration and acknowledgement of the necessity of the police - ARE still culturally relevant. Once again, I know the movie has been altered substantially from the novel but I have not seen it.
Anyway, education is important to appreciate things. Some people complain that this exposure "ruins" literature for them; others find the exact opposite. The latter finds a way to vocalize their dislike of a work, and can now not only explain why they liked something, but they can find new interpretations to further their enjoyment.
This is not to dismiss pacing (I can't stand anything written between Pope and the Modernists, for example), but there's no nice way to say this. You don't like it because you don't get it.
Movie: Star Wars: Return of the Jedi. *Ducks behind bullet/bomb/abuse proof wall.
Think about it. Teddy bears defeat the galaxies most powerful military (Arrows and logs? What does the armor actually protect from then?) Luke makes out with his own sister and no one bats an eyelid when the truth comes out later? Bobba Fett, the arch rival of Solo and most feared bounty hunter in existence is taken out of the movie by being accidentally smacked in the back with a pole? Luke decides that after defeating his father that he should just throw away his lightsaber, despite having been repeatedly told by everyone that the Emperor is quite powerful as well, because he's a nicey nice guy now?
There were less holes in the fu**ing Titanic.
Music: Foo Fighters
They have an incredibly defensive fan base from what I've experienced, but it dosen't stop me from finding all but three of their songs to be boring, and a little bit 'samey'.
TV: South Park
Seriously, what is the appeal? I have watched it and at times I do find it amusing, but then it just ruins itself with mindless stupidity and ridiculously bad language. They also make childish jibes at other TV shows, which are usually ignored. For some reason fans of the show feel that this is because the other shows know they're inferior. Family Guy is much better for jibes anyhow, they actually analyse other shows, albeit with an addition of random humour. (Take Two and a Half Men with the Ostrich audience for e.g).
I couldn't think of a game, San Andreas perhaps has it's bugs and other issues ignored for various reasons but overall it's the fun your having that counts. (This is why my addiction to Fifa 11 baffles me, since I never enjoy playing it despite winning most of the time.) That's it though, sorry for yet again clogging up a page with my boredom fuelled rantings.
Think about it. Teddy bears defeat the galaxies most powerful military (Arrows and logs? What does the armor actually protect from then?) Luke makes out with his own sister and no one bats an eyelid when the truth comes out later? Bobba Fett, the arch rival of Solo and most feared bounty hunter in existence is taken out of the movie by being accidentally smacked in the back with a pole? Luke decides that after defeating his father that he should just throw away his lightsaber, despite having been repeatedly told by everyone that the Emperor is quite powerful as well, because he's a nicey nice guy now?
There were less holes in the fu**ing Titanic.
Music: Foo Fighters
They have an incredibly defensive fan base from what I've experienced, but it dosen't stop me from finding all but three of their songs to be boring, and a little bit 'samey'.
TV: South Park
Seriously, what is the appeal? I have watched it and at times I do find it amusing, but then it just ruins itself with mindless stupidity and ridiculously bad language. They also make childish jibes at other TV shows, which are usually ignored. For some reason fans of the show feel that this is because the other shows know they're inferior. Family Guy is much better for jibes anyhow, they actually analyse other shows, albeit with an addition of random humour. (Take Two and a Half Men with the Ostrich audience for e.g).
I couldn't think of a game, San Andreas perhaps has it's bugs and other issues ignored for various reasons but overall it's the fun your having that counts. (This is why my addiction to Fifa 11 baffles me, since I never enjoy playing it despite winning most of the time.) That's it though, sorry for yet again clogging up a page with my boredom fuelled rantings.
Surely anything that requires education to enjoy would automatically be discounted, as it's appealing to a niche audience, and the majority of people cannot enjoy it? For example, I enjoy well written books on the history of art, as well as advanced documents on computer science, BUT I cannot expect others to enjoy the same things as they won't have the foundations to even approach the material.TSED said:
What I'm saying, I guess, is that if something demands from the audience, it cannot complain when the section of the audience that cannot give treats it with disdain...
Game: the Mario series, never been a fan.
Movie: The Seventh Seal, it was some good parts here and there, but it shot itself in the foot with some really silly and annoying scenes. I just think its people who don't understand Swedish who think its great, because the subs are only covering 2/3rds of the dialogue.
Music: Coldplay, a good chunk of Springsteen's work, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, 2pac, Foo Fighters, Beth Hart, Patty Smith, Eric Clapton, U2, Nirvana, All of Metallica's work after 1998, Whitesnake and Deep Purple... To name a few.
Movie: The Seventh Seal, it was some good parts here and there, but it shot itself in the foot with some really silly and annoying scenes. I just think its people who don't understand Swedish who think its great, because the subs are only covering 2/3rds of the dialogue.
Music: Coldplay, a good chunk of Springsteen's work, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, 2pac, Foo Fighters, Beth Hart, Patty Smith, Eric Clapton, U2, Nirvana, All of Metallica's work after 1998, Whitesnake and Deep Purple... To name a few.
It was pretty much the first movie that first used a lot of cinematography techniques that are now considered standard. No surprise that they'd be a bit rough the first time. It was struggle to sit through the movie for me as well, but worth it as a history lesson.Fanta Grape said:
I had the same thing with Ocarina of Time. It was the first 3D Legend of Zelda game, and thus a little rough around the edges, and you really notice that after playing Wind Waker and Majora's Mask first.
I've only got Deus ex to say.
I bought the game on a whim as a child. Didn't quite understood the game and decided to shelve it.
After a few years of internet I googled best PC game and most of the list said deus ex, which I coincidentally owned(GOTY version, no less).
The AI was pretty bad, controls were difficult(even more difficult was to remap them), the game was hard to get into,some missions were bugged and some were outright impossible to accomplish in a certain way.
Though I give you that the graphics were quite slick and the animations were above average.
I couldn't understand that why I wasn't able to get into the game(Usually they are very easy to get into for me. For example I played Tomb raider 1 on the PC in 2009)
Surprisingly, I started being obsessed about the game. Why I couldn't enjoy the so called best PC game? I googled for hours but to no avail. Soon my web history was filled from deus ex and I wanted to know how could I enjoy it at all. I even went out to buy the PS2 version(sucked more)
to play but still couldn't have fun.
It was a weird game. A game which made me obsessed without me even liking it.
I bought the game on a whim as a child. Didn't quite understood the game and decided to shelve it.
After a few years of internet I googled best PC game and most of the list said deus ex, which I coincidentally owned(GOTY version, no less).
The AI was pretty bad, controls were difficult(even more difficult was to remap them), the game was hard to get into,some missions were bugged and some were outright impossible to accomplish in a certain way.
Though I give you that the graphics were quite slick and the animations were above average.
I couldn't understand that why I wasn't able to get into the game(Usually they are very easy to get into for me. For example I played Tomb raider 1 on the PC in 2009)
Surprisingly, I started being obsessed about the game. Why I couldn't enjoy the so called best PC game? I googled for hours but to no avail. Soon my web history was filled from deus ex and I wanted to know how could I enjoy it at all. I even went out to buy the PS2 version(sucked more)
to play but still couldn't have fun.
It was a weird game. A game which made me obsessed without me even liking it.
This.-Drifter- said:
I love Sergio Leone, but that shit was ridiculous.
Funnily enough - I thought that the opening scene is, perhaps, on of the most perfect sequences in cinema history. Shame that the rest of the movie has to drag on with landscape shots of everything....he manages to make landscape shots out of eye-line close ups - which is an interesting and completely unique technique, but it draaaaaaaags it out until it no longer becomes a game of tension or attrition, but a genuine battle with the audience to assert superiority.
Whatever.
I'll just keep on watching the opening scene over and over and over again.
When I saw the title I came in here to post Blade-Runner...but was beaten by you...the OP! For the exact same reasons (high expectations as its known as one of the best sci-fi movies ever and I LOVE sci-fi but it was a huge disappointment...)y1fella said:
Beowulf. I thought: "cool, dragons, monsters, heroism and shit", but it was quite boring most of the time, especially the third part with the dragon.
Also something that deserves mentioning is the chapter about Tom Bombadil in the fellowship of the ring. It had absolutely nothing to do with the plot and it was the most boring thing i've ever read. It was nothing but Bombadil spouting semi-poetic crap.
Also something that deserves mentioning is the chapter about Tom Bombadil in the fellowship of the ring. It had absolutely nothing to do with the plot and it was the most boring thing i've ever read. It was nothing but Bombadil spouting semi-poetic crap.
You do realise that the IMDB 250 is retarded though, don't you?Verlander said:
IMDB is good for hard facts, and shit for opinions and recommendations.