Maybe that's why Half Life 3 isn't out, because then the gaming gods would, in some way, force Gabe Newell to leave.JuliusMagnus said:
Cliff Bleszinski Leaves Epic Games
- Thread starter Andy Chalk
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Considering that he has done more PR then anything else lately maybe he is headed to
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KICKSTARTER!
Just to piss off Steve Ellis.
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KICKSTARTER!
Just to piss off Steve Ellis.
I'm surprised he's as popular as he is. He always seemed to be mentioned more in the sense of a fad or meme.
Just you wait....Signa said:
ALL of the homo.antipunt said:
I honestly stopped paying attention to Epic Games when they abandoned Unreal and royally screwed People Can Fly. (there's a reason three key designers leave a company shortly after a game release, and it isn't because they have "other interests")
At the same time, Cliffy B was primarily responsible for the creation of Gears of War. A series that was very commercially and critically successful. So there's that too.
It's just, every time I hear the guys name, after putting aside the thought of the blatant use of his charismatic nature as a PR personality, all I can think of is, "Oh...that guy. The guy responsible for some of the worst maps in Unreal Tournament."
So, yeah. I don't know. It's a petty thought but, I mean, it's the only thing he's done that has had any kind of significant impact on me. Still, I'm kind of indifferent. His leaving doesn't really affect me.
Regardless, best of the luck to the guy. For what it's worth, he's still a hell of a programmer and designer. It would be a shame if he left the industry.
Hope he finds something meaningful and enjoyable to do, assuming he does.
At the same time, Cliffy B was primarily responsible for the creation of Gears of War. A series that was very commercially and critically successful. So there's that too.
It's just, every time I hear the guys name, after putting aside the thought of the blatant use of his charismatic nature as a PR personality, all I can think of is, "Oh...that guy. The guy responsible for some of the worst maps in Unreal Tournament."
So, yeah. I don't know. It's a petty thought but, I mean, it's the only thing he's done that has had any kind of significant impact on me. Still, I'm kind of indifferent. His leaving doesn't really affect me.
Regardless, best of the luck to the guy. For what it's worth, he's still a hell of a programmer and designer. It would be a shame if he left the industry.
Hope he finds something meaningful and enjoyable to do, assuming he does.
Never did agree with all of the guy's ideas and views, and wasn't much a fan of Epic's recent games, but I can't deny they made some pretty awesome stuff.
Hope he finds success in whatever he does next!
Hope he finds success in whatever he does next!
After only 20 years in the industry he's leaving it entirely? Or is he going to continue other projects on a smaller scale on his own? I really hope that he does not up and leave, as it really says something about the whole state that the industry is in.
See, in most every other medium, the people that work in their respective industries can stay in it an upwards of several decades. You still have people in their 70s working in the film industry, musicians are still playing their music on tours and turning out albums way after their prime, writers will still write even if only moderately successful.
Yet, for some reason in this industry, the average lifespan of someone is just around 20, maybe 30 years, with people quitting the industry before their 50s. That is just for the big kahunas in the industry, this includes people in the lower echelon of the industry. That, to me, suggests a lot of developer burnout either from the heavily intensive (probably unethical) work ethics in the industry or just plain creative depletion in the industry. The industry isn't developing a wizened higher up, there are hardly any auteurs or singular people that drive innovation in this industry in comparison to other mediums as everything is mainly done through committee, and while there is nothing wrong with that per se, there is only so much you can do through a group effort.
I dunno, maybe I'm over reading it, but I can't be the only one concerned that people like Will Wright or Sid Meier give up on the industry after only, what, 20 years? Musicians and directors stay in their industry for twice as long, maybe even more.
See, in most every other medium, the people that work in their respective industries can stay in it an upwards of several decades. You still have people in their 70s working in the film industry, musicians are still playing their music on tours and turning out albums way after their prime, writers will still write even if only moderately successful.
Yet, for some reason in this industry, the average lifespan of someone is just around 20, maybe 30 years, with people quitting the industry before their 50s. That is just for the big kahunas in the industry, this includes people in the lower echelon of the industry. That, to me, suggests a lot of developer burnout either from the heavily intensive (probably unethical) work ethics in the industry or just plain creative depletion in the industry. The industry isn't developing a wizened higher up, there are hardly any auteurs or singular people that drive innovation in this industry in comparison to other mediums as everything is mainly done through committee, and while there is nothing wrong with that per se, there is only so much you can do through a group effort.
I dunno, maybe I'm over reading it, but I can't be the only one concerned that people like Will Wright or Sid Meier give up on the industry after only, what, 20 years? Musicians and directors stay in their industry for twice as long, maybe even more.
I've always thought this guy was a bit of a douche, never met him of course, so I don't know.
I wonder what Epic will be like now?
I wonder what Epic will be like now?
NO! now who will make sure Epic games character designs have that massively over-muscular look! The characters will all look more human and less like scientific abominations! Oh noes! The horror!
On a more serious note, its good to see the guy leaving to do something else with his life. Its easy to get stuck doing the same thing forever and never explore possibilities. That said, I want your fucking job man, I want it! Give it to me!
On a more serious note, its good to see the guy leaving to do something else with his life. Its easy to get stuck doing the same thing forever and never explore possibilities. That said, I want your fucking job man, I want it! Give it to me!