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Suicide is usually not a good idea. However I do respect people who suicide for dishonoring themselves with seppuku or the like. I think more societies should adapt this kind of mentality where honor should be defended at the cost of your life.
The best way to commit suicide is to get some help, If I'm going to die I want it to be done by a firing squad of 20 people with assault rifles. I want a blindfold and a fake cigar, and they can all shoot at the same time. Assisted suicide is the ONLY way to end game. Killing yourself is weak in my own opinion; if you feel hopeless, let someone else kill you. It's easy and you might go to help, but you can burn knowing you didn't do it.
Everyone goes through the thoughts and some decide give in. Also, there is NO GOOD WAY to commit suicide, you mess something up and then your spending a 3-5 days in some terrible pain.
Everyone goes through the thoughts and some decide give in. Also, there is NO GOOD WAY to commit suicide, you mess something up and then your spending a 3-5 days in some terrible pain.
Suicide is a delicate issue as the surrounding circumstances greatly influence the consequences. People who truly are alone are a very slim minority. Most people have at the least a parent or sibling left who will have to deal with situation presented to them, or a single good friend.
While I'm not advocating anyone commit suicide, quite the contrary, I would speak against it because you have no idea who you might hurt. As opposed to suicide itself being immoral or absurd.
In my opinion I think that people who consider suicide and are capable do not because it will emotionally damage those that they love or care about, while the ones who do commit suicide reach a point where they place the value of their relief over others' pain.
While I'm not advocating anyone commit suicide, quite the contrary, I would speak against it because you have no idea who you might hurt. As opposed to suicide itself being immoral or absurd.
In my opinion I think that people who consider suicide and are capable do not because it will emotionally damage those that they love or care about, while the ones who do commit suicide reach a point where they place the value of their relief over others' pain.
I've stopped a few people from throwing in the towel.
But I've also buried too many friends who did.
The horrible thing about suicide, is that no matter who you are or how inconsequential you may feel, someone is going to miss you. Someone who loves you is going to weep alone. Someone who a few words from you may have changed their lives is now unable to express their thanks.
But I've also buried too many friends who did.
The horrible thing about suicide, is that no matter who you are or how inconsequential you may feel, someone is going to miss you. Someone who loves you is going to weep alone. Someone who a few words from you may have changed their lives is now unable to express their thanks.
I don't think suicide is selfish at all. There could be a major problem affecting them greatly or mental illness. I know someone who has done this and it really hurt me and lots of people around me but I'm not mad at this person. I don't recommend suicide to anyone but remember its not selfish. The person probably can't stand it any longer. I'd try my best to (get) help for the person but its not selfish. They also don't do it to hurt anyone so you cant really be mad at them either.
I think it goes against basic animal instinct and isn't worth it 90% of the time, but if you want to you can. I wouldn't recomend it tho
No, in my religion (Christian;Southern Baptist) you go to Hell. Now, while I might argue that we aren't God and we don't know what he'd do, I still don't want to do it. I am easily discouraged but I don't like losing all the same. If my life were about to end, then I would probably accept my fate without much fight, but I wouldn't want to end it myself.
The only time that I would consider it is if I was about to become a zombie. And while that might sound stupid, thats because I wouldn't know if I'd be somewhat "alive" if I got turned into one, or just died and my body roamed around.
The only time that I would consider it is if I was about to become a zombie. And while that might sound stupid, thats because I wouldn't know if I'd be somewhat "alive" if I got turned into one, or just died and my body roamed around.
Preventing people from committing suicide is even more selfish IMO.
Every single thing you do in your life is 'selfish' in a way.
On another note my 27th birthday is coming up, haven't accomplished much, don't really have goals, maybe I'll join the 27 club.
Every single thing you do in your life is 'selfish' in a way.
On another note my 27th birthday is coming up, haven't accomplished much, don't really have goals, maybe I'll join the 27 club.
I've always had a very, very strong contempt for the very idea of suicide and it's very hard for me to even think about the issue without my upper lip instinctively curling into a sneer. Yes, life is hard. Yes, sometimes it's easy to see no way out of your situation. I personally have hit rock bottom in my life twice. Suicide never once crossed my mind. It's the option of the quitter, of the coward, of the selfish bastard who can't see past his or her own pain to know that what they do has an adverse effect on friends and family. And if you don't think it does, then you are a total idiot.
In life, we are called to suffer well - you make your way through the pain and heartbreak and you come out of it stronger than before. Nothing lasts forever, and every situation you face is temporary, be it good or bad. And no matter how black your night is, dawn is inevitable so long as you don't throw a little hissy fit about how insignificant you are and quit life.
In life, we are called to suffer well - you make your way through the pain and heartbreak and you come out of it stronger than before. Nothing lasts forever, and every situation you face is temporary, be it good or bad. And no matter how black your night is, dawn is inevitable so long as you don't throw a little hissy fit about how insignificant you are and quit life.
Join the military. I'm not being sarcastic. Trust me, I'm not in it yet, but knowing that you are going somewhere with your life, and knowing that your life is taken care of for a few years...that's a great feeling.heyheysg said:
Death of self ehh, oh yes, I have experienced that.
When I was a wee lad of four I was sexually assaulted by my uncle, when I turned eighteen I remembered it, in such amazing vivid and graphic detail that the trauma inflicted was just the same. When a person dies, they cease. They become as inanimate and as without consciousness as the wood of my table. This knowledge has kept my unnaturally logical mind from turning a blade on my wanting body.
To resolve this issue, my mind (perhaps unbeknown to my conscious mind)created fantastical memories of death in other lives. To this day I have experienced death no less than five times. When I say that I have experienced death, I mean no less than that. I would become a primal, screaming parody of myself. In my agony I have unintentionally broken walls, doors, and (in one case) a car windshield. I applied the vividness I had garnered in my previous recovery of rape memory to the end of experiencing death. My father, whom himself has been pronounced dead on occasion, only to regain life again attests to the accuracy of my experience with the death-in-mind.
Men have no written words suitable to describe the death-in-mind's cacophony of emotions. It is something that must be experienced to appreciate. To this end, I suggest that if suicide ever presents itself as an option, experiment with the death-in-mind first, for if one does not stand on a cliff's edge, then he cannot see the valley bellow.
Death is an experience overwhelmingly terrible and subtly wonderful. All I suggest is that you give it a shot before deciding if it is worth the trouble.
When I was a wee lad of four I was sexually assaulted by my uncle, when I turned eighteen I remembered it, in such amazing vivid and graphic detail that the trauma inflicted was just the same. When a person dies, they cease. They become as inanimate and as without consciousness as the wood of my table. This knowledge has kept my unnaturally logical mind from turning a blade on my wanting body.
To resolve this issue, my mind (perhaps unbeknown to my conscious mind)created fantastical memories of death in other lives. To this day I have experienced death no less than five times. When I say that I have experienced death, I mean no less than that. I would become a primal, screaming parody of myself. In my agony I have unintentionally broken walls, doors, and (in one case) a car windshield. I applied the vividness I had garnered in my previous recovery of rape memory to the end of experiencing death. My father, whom himself has been pronounced dead on occasion, only to regain life again attests to the accuracy of my experience with the death-in-mind.
Men have no written words suitable to describe the death-in-mind's cacophony of emotions. It is something that must be experienced to appreciate. To this end, I suggest that if suicide ever presents itself as an option, experiment with the death-in-mind first, for if one does not stand on a cliff's edge, then he cannot see the valley bellow.
Death is an experience overwhelmingly terrible and subtly wonderful. All I suggest is that you give it a shot before deciding if it is worth the trouble.
Should I ever ben unfortunate enough to get an illness or injury that condemns me but that will make my remaining time on earth intolerable then I would like the choice to be available to me to say that I believe my time should come - that I should not be forced to wait through my suffering thanks to the squeamishness of others. I would wish it to be my choice and a decision that I made in my own time so I could be sure that Goodbyes were said how I wanted them to be and that everything was set in order. I would prefer that than dragging my days insensible on pain medication and degraded by my helpless condition.
The other side of the coin is related to mental health issues and is probably far to complex and sensitive to be successfully debated this forum. With the exception of those who found themselves in the situation of wishing to end their own life, people cannot understand the mental process that puts a person there. Parroting lines like "the coward's way out" show a total lack of understanding of what it actually means and a total failure to grasp the notion that someone in that state is sufficiently mentally impaired to not be able to reason that help is either available or desirable. Suicidal ideation escalating to the making of plans, the carrying out of a "cry for help" attempt or a successful attempt are all results of an altered state of mind.
The other side of the coin is related to mental health issues and is probably far to complex and sensitive to be successfully debated this forum. With the exception of those who found themselves in the situation of wishing to end their own life, people cannot understand the mental process that puts a person there. Parroting lines like "the coward's way out" show a total lack of understanding of what it actually means and a total failure to grasp the notion that someone in that state is sufficiently mentally impaired to not be able to reason that help is either available or desirable. Suicidal ideation escalating to the making of plans, the carrying out of a "cry for help" attempt or a successful attempt are all results of an altered state of mind.
This may sound harsh, but it's done with sincerity and life experience:jimboa25 said:
Suicide is not respectable and weak. It is the ultimate weakness.
Not to be mean, of course. It's just that nobody remembers anyone who's committed suicide with anything other than sadness and pain. There's no sense of 'they lived a good life'. It's a terrible way to go and should be avoided at all costs. It is also the person's lowest point; they reach rock bottom and die feeling terrible.
So I won't sugar coat it and say 'no, you have a lot to live for!' Because honestly, you probably don't have it or see it if you're feeling that bad. Not to say you won't find it, though. That's pretty much the only way to beat suicidal thoughts: make something of yourself and feel like you have something to live for. That's it. Easier said than done, though.
I grew up a very shitty home. Found out I was clinically depressed.
Honestly, the only way I got out of that rut was leaving home, moving in with friends, going to university and getting degrees in economics and accounting. I am now working on a law degree and wanting to start my master's in accounting as I look for an internship. Other thing I suggest: travel around the world. It's pretty cheap nowadays (requiring a bit of saving), assuming you live in a first world country and have a basic job.
Honestly, it's not really about becoming more worldly, the real benefits are the bragging rights. On your resume, as a conversation piece. It's so superficial, but people will respect you more for visiting some random place. It is retarded if you think too hard on it, so the secret is to not think too hard on it.
I don't know how young you are, but I suggest getting into a competitive hobby. I am garbage at most sports, but I grew up around pool tables. People start random conversations with me based on the fact I play pool really well. Again, retarded. But that's just how it is. Just be good at something you can do in public and use it as a reason to meet people. People like talented, 'worldly' people. No matter what they're talented at or even if they only visited some random city (London) for a week's holiday.
You don't even have to be great or very interesting... I moved to a new town and wanted to get to know people, so I joined a football club. It was a small rural town and I was looking after my father who has now passed. But playing football got me laid. And I didn't do much of anything that game. I am not that great looking, either. I am nerdy. But I play a game of football and more girls swarmed me than I have ever had swarm me in my entire life - this was after the game at the pub, celebrating a victory that I really didn't help (I was new to town, which probably helped tbh).
Basically, my advice: get busy and things look a lot better.
I kind of understand where you're coming from, when I read about or imagine the lives of people during the warring period, fighting and survival is on the top of your mind. The offside is you get killed instead. Every day is precious because you don't know how many you have left.thebobmaster said:
Same with starvation and drowning, deprive the human body of what it needs for awhile and you feel like living again.
But all that aside, if you were well-fed, comfortable and secure. What would you want out of life?
Die quickly and painlessly or die slowly and torturously...
It all depends on wether you believe in the suicide = condemnation business I guess
Or if you haven't got the guts to commit the act when it comes time
It all depends on wether you believe in the suicide = condemnation business I guess
Or if you haven't got the guts to commit the act when it comes time
You do realize that the majority of positions in the military are non-combat, right? If you are fine with where you are, then that's all right. I'm just saying that you might not have fully considered all the options open to you. While some positions are combat positions, there are a lot that aren't. I'm going in as commsec maintenance, for example. No combat there, I just fix and set up communications.heyheysg said:
I really don't have much to say about suicide. It is usually a bad disicion, "Nothing to life for"... well, life is something to live for, everything is something to live for, but that is just my view on it. But I think it is, in a way, to heavily looked upon. some idiots at my school made up a rumor that I was going to commit suicide... For some odd reason, I forgave them. If you are reported to going to commit suicide, you have a reason to. I had to talk to some gay counciler at my school "by order of the law" according to her... bunch of bull crap. you are treated like an animal if someone thinks you are going to commit suicide. if someone is going to, try by your own hand to change their mind, do not turn to some psycho closet.