CNN Insider admits hyping death toll of Covid to drive ratings.

[I can't enter my old name]

And when any network that is supposed to be focused on NEWS, is shown to be fucking shit up for "ratings" then I think the FCC should step in and force them to disclose the bias. I'm fine with Bias, but when talking about information that affects people's lifes, then I don't think it unreasonable that such bias should be disclosed.

You are free to report them to the FCC for false information (where most likely nothing will happen). You are also free to sue them like Nick Sandmann.

Regardless of Project Veritas's credibility, CNN and co. are utter trash and have way more influence on the US elections and public opinion then whatever fake news website they are complaining about. Too many people, especially liberals, trust the media. How anyone can trust telecom companies with billion dollar contracts with the military and NSA to tell the truth is beyond me.

 

[SilentPony]

SNIP

The idea you can't trust the media is what led idiots to storming the Capital because they believed a bunch of political conmen over reports from actual news sources. Georgia is passing voter restriction laws not based off date and intel, but specifically because Trump and co told them there was voter fraud, and they're good little sheep and believed that over reality.
Not believing experts, and thinking journalists spend years in college and decades building careers just to be able to lie to the lower-middle class workers, while billionaires and oligarchs are the real truth tellers, is how we got an illiterate clown in the White House for 4 years.
You should sooner trust a CNN anchor with your life than trust an Project Veritas "reporter" to tell you the weather when you're both outside.

 

[Gergar12]

I would hype it as well since it merits it. It's literally the 3rd leading cause of death in the US in 2020.

CDC: COVID-19 Was 3rd-Leading Cause Of Death In 2020, People Of Color Hit Hardest

A pair of reports published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday sheds new light on the approximately 375,000 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. last year.

www.npr.org

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Damn, Project Veritas coming in hot with the undercover scoop of "if it bleeds it leads"

Tune in next week, for their undercover exposè proving weather forecasters are frequently wrong and members of the archao-socialist liberal deep state.

 

[I can't enter my old name]

The idea you can't trust the media is what led idiots to storming the Capital because they believed a bunch of political conmen over reports from actual news sources.

Yes a bad thing happened, but if you trust them you're in for far worse things.

Not believing experts, and thinking journalists spend years in college and decades building careers just to be able to lie to the lower-middle class workers, while billionaires and oligarchs are the real truth tellers, is how we got an illiterate clown in the White House for 4 years.

Yeah I would not trust former members of both political parties, Twitter, Facebook, CIA, or NSA to tell me the news. I also would not trust news that regurgitates talking points from billionares and billionaire funded think tanks either.

You should sooner trust a CNN anchor with your life than trust an Project Veritas "reporter" to tell you the weather when you're both outside.

Why can't both be awful? I mean both have been caught making things up. One just happens to have more powerful than the other and has much more blood on their hands.

 

[Jarrito3002]

The more I see of this don't trust the media idea the more its lets about the media and the peoples not being honest about their own personal optics.

Lots of time I hear "i want facts" but it really mean I want something to confirm my preconceived thoughts.

This thread started with tampered edited and peddled "fake news" but was dismissed because it confirmed OPs established thoughts. So we can give the media shit but at the end of the day lets look in the damn mirror stop pretending the average person is absolved of this.

 

[SilentPony]

Why can't both be awful? I mean both have been caught making things up. One just happens to have more powerful than the other and has much more blood on their hands.

Intent? CNN gets shit wrong, jumps the gun, doesn't do their diligence, doesn't properly vet a source or fact check. And then people jump down their throat, someone gets fired or steps away, their ratings go down, and they readjust and try to do better.

Project Veritas is actively trying to trick people. Not poor journalism or sensational headline chasing, but pure lies made up to scare people into donating to the Republicans.
CNN wants to get views, fair enough, so they go with COVID deaths as their top story, maybe giving it more air time per week than they should given other events in the world. Veritas will tell you Covid isn't real.
Its a matter of perspective and degrees of wrong-doing and fault. CNN is not perfect and they're probably my 4th or 5th checked news source for any given story, but they're at least trying to tell a version of the truth whereas Project Veritas not only doesn't tell the truth, that's not their goal. They're a marketing firm for the GOP, and pander exclusively to conspiracy theorist, take their money, and then wind them up tight as a spring and unleash them on DC.

 

[Trunkage]

Just gonna remind everyone that the last time there was a consensus on trusting the media, preaidents dragged the US into wars, sold drugs to control the populace, sent US gangs to control other countries, murdered rulers of countries, banned police from enforcing laws in other countries and sent warlords to raid their own people

It is really fine that the public doesn't trust the news

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Just gonna remind everyone that the last time there was a consensus on trusting the media, preaidents dragged the US into wars, sold drugs to control the populace, sent US gangs to control other countries, murdered rulers of countries, banned police from enforcing laws in other countries and sent warlords to raid their own people

It is really fine that the public doesn't trust the news

I mean, that happens when we don't trust the news too. Whether or not we trust the news has no correlation. Hell, news being profit driven is why the news stopped reporting on...unpatriotic truths

 

[Trunkage]

I mean, that happens when we don't trust the news too. Whether or not we trust the news has no correlation. Hell, news being profit driven is why the news stopped reporting on...unpatriotic truths

Yeah, you have to hope to the gods that some teacher along the way has taught critical thinking and media analysis....

I dont think you're every going to have a fair and balance media. Even if you did, many people would comment that they aren't fair and balanced based on the fact it doesn't agree with their views

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I would hype it as well since it merits it. It's literally the 3rd leading cause of death in the US in 2020.

CDC: COVID-19 Was 3rd-Leading Cause Of Death In 2020, People Of Color Hit Hardest

A pair of reports published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday sheds new light on the approximately 375,000 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. last year.

www.npr.org

The article is more fear mongering like the liberal media has been doing the entire time. The article literally ends with the following:

She compared vaccines to a raincoat and an umbrella, noting they provide protection during a rainstorm but not in a hurricane

"And we're really still in a COVID hurricane," Gounder said. "Transmission rates are extremely high. And so even if you've been vaccinated, you really do need to continue to be careful, avoid crowds and wear masks in public."

The idea you can't trust the media is what led idiots to storming the Capital because they believed a bunch of political conmen over reports from actual news sources. Georgia is passing voter restriction laws not based off date and intel, but specifically because Trump and co told them there was voter fraud, and they're good little sheep and believed that over reality.
Not believing experts, and thinking journalists spend years in college and decades building careers just to be able to lie to the lower-middle class workers, while billionaires and oligarchs are the real truth tellers, is how we got an illiterate clown in the White House for 4 years.
You should sooner trust a CNN anchor with your life than trust an Project Veritas "reporter" to tell you the weather when you're both outside.

There's hardly any actual journalism anymore because real journalism isn't very profitable. Just look at all the bullshit questions "journalists" were asking during the covid daily press conferences last year. Not that I'm at all defending the horrible US response but so many of the questions were just designed to be "gotcha" questions against Trump and the reporters had little to no interest in actually informing people on anything that was important. If you listen only directly to the experts, that's the only time you get any kind of solid information. It's like those reinfection stories where if you ask an expert if reinfection is possible, the answer is of course "yes" so then the reporter runs with you gotta be scared of reinfections. If you just listened to what the expert said, you'd get a "yes" followed by a very big "BUT".

 

[bluegate]

Just look at all the bullshit questions "journalists" were asking during the covid daily press conferences last year. Not that I'm at all defending the horrible US response but so many of the questions were just designed to be "gotcha" questions against Trump and the reporters had little to no interest in actually informing people on anything that was important.

Can't fault the poor saps stuck in that job too much, those press briefings weren't really a place for truth and honesty.

After all, you were dealing with a President who drew with a sharpy on a hurricane forecast map because he couldn't admit to making a mistake in a tweet.

Going to a conference held by a team headed by that guy and expecting to be told the truth would be... Naïve?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Intent? CNN gets shit wrong, jumps the gun, doesn't do their diligence, doesn't properly vet a source or fact check. And then people jump down their throat, someone gets fired or steps away, their ratings go down, and they readjust and try to do better.

Project Veritas is actively trying to trick people. Not poor journalism or sensational headline chasing, but pure lies made up to scare people into donating to the Republicans.
CNN wants to get views, fair enough, so they go with COVID deaths as their top story, maybe giving it more air time per week than they should given other events in the world. Veritas will tell you Covid isn't real.
Its a matter of perspective and degrees of wrong-doing and fault. CNN is not perfect and they're probably my 4th or 5th checked news source for any given story, but they're at least trying to tell a version of the truth whereas Project Veritas not only doesn't tell the truth, that's not their goal. They're a marketing firm for the GOP, and pander exclusively to conspiracy theorist, take their money, and then wind them up tight as a spring and unleash them on DC.

Sounds to me like the Democrats are just jealous their side doesn't managed to pull off exposes much if at all

 

[I can't enter my old name]

Intent? CNN gets shit wrong, jumps the gun, doesn't do their diligence, doesn't properly vet a source or fact check. And then people jump down their throat, someone gets fired or steps away, their ratings go down, and they readjust and try to do better.

Nah man these guys are full of shit and they still haven't learned anything from 2016.

MSNBC’s Anti-Sanders Bias Makes It Forget How to Do Math

When MSNBC legal analyst Mimi Rocah (7/21/19) said that Bernie Sanders "made [her] skin crawl," though she "can't even identify for you what exactly it is," she was just expressing more overtly the anti-Sanders bias that pervades the network.

www.commondreams.org

I can't tell you if their masters tell them to it or they have some bizarre justification on how twisting facts is for the greater good while they climb the corporate ladder, but these guys are misleading you on purpose. Former government and party officials work for media organizations, and media executives become government officials as part of a revolving door. They are influence seekers, they are access seekers for both government and corporate access, and they are entrenched in the corporate state.

To say that they made an oopsie because clickbait is disingenuous. I've already said multiple times how these corporations profit from war either directly like CNN through war coverage, or indirectly through their sister companies who are military contractors. These guys have been selling wars for over half a century, and they're not doing it for views. They are also receiving funding from billionaires, and they're not doing it for views.

My primary concern isn't whether the media machine is supposed to or can even be objective or neutral, it's how they are actively trying to destroy independent media so you are stuck back in the days where they had a monopoly on information. Then there are those that still trust the media machine to this day, despite their awful track record and conflicts of interest. Remember, the coverage of the Vietnam War was "objective", and when what was being reported was too incongruous with what was happening in reality, war support collapsed.

 

[Agema]

If anyone needed proof that the modern media environment is utterly fucked, it is that anyone pays any attention to anything Project Veritas says.

The organisation has just about the worst record imaginable for lies, false reporting, malicious set-ups, and outright propaganda. That it has not been utterly discredited by now reveals just how absolutely incompetent the general public are at assessing facts and sources.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Remember, the coverage of the Vietnam War was "objective", and when what was being reported was too incongruous with what was happening in reality, war support collapsed.

I'm led to believe that that's not actually the case, the US population didn't stop supporting the war, it got fed up with a long war with no victory in sight.

 

[tstorm823]

That it has not been utterly discredited by now reveals just how absolutely incompetent the general public are at assessing facts and sources.

To reiterate things others have said, that makes it different than other media how? Like the footage is always real and the quotes are real, but spun to support a certain political narrative, so it's deceptive spin on the truth. The sort of thing I get backlash here for calling lies.

Like, did you see the thing with Ron Desantis and 60 Minutes? I don't have time to fish up the clips, I may come back later and edit them in. They asked him about a rumor that he took election campaign funds from Publix to get them preferred access to covid vaccine distribution. In response, he said that story was just a lie, then explained for 2 minutes how CVS and Walgreens had access first, the hospitals were involved, they did polling and analysis to find which companies had access to the most at risk populations geographically, and they consulted a bunch of people before deciding to partner with Publix. When they aired the story, they cut out everything between him saying it was a lie and him saying he consulted with people and the media can ask them, and then segued with "but someone he didn't consult with was this person" as though he had given no other refutation of the claim. The editing was so dishonest, Democrats in Florida complained about it.

'60 Minutes' faces backlash from Democrats and Publix for critical story on Florida's vaccine rollout | CNN Business

"60 Minutes" is facing backlash for a story it aired Sunday on Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis — including from the supermarket chain Publix and two prominent Democrats in the state.

www.cnn.com

Compare those stories: Project Veritas hidden cameras a CNN guy, and then edits the footage to make it look more salacious than it really is.
60 Minutes takes questions from a press conference, and then edits out the information that undermines their story.
It's reasonable to argue 60 Minutes was worse behavior: CNN has profited from covid fear, that guy did confirm that in hidden camera footage, and the lie is framing it like they were deliberately misinforming people. Publix didn't have any exclusivity deal, the vaccine distribution deal they got didn't come by the governor's orders, the lie isn't just framing the story maliciously, the entire story is a lie.

And like, you can disagree with that comparison. You might argue Project Veritas is worse. But unless you can look at these two recent media events and claim "those aren't even comparable" in spite of how totally comparable they are, that's a troubling thing, that mainstream CBS award-winning 60 minutes is comparable in quality to James O'Keefe.

Edit: Forgive me for the source, Micheal Knowles is partisan hack-y even amongst conservative commentators, and his comments at the end are comically silly, but he's got a good side-by-side of 60 Minutes vs the extended response, so Imma use it.

 

[Trunkage]

To reiterate things others have said, that makes it different than other media how? Like the footage is always real and the quotes are real, but spun to support a certain political narrative, so it's deceptive spin on the truth. The sort of thing I get backlash here for calling lies.

Like, did you see the thing with Ron Desantis and 60 Minutes? I don't have time to fish up the clips, I may come back later and edit them in. They asked him about a rumor that he took election campaign funds from Publix to get them preferred access to covid vaccine distribution. In response, he said that story was just a lie, then explained for 2 minutes how CVS and Walgreens had access first, the hospitals were involved, they did polling and analysis to find which companies had access to the most at risk populations geographically, and they consulted a bunch of people before deciding to partner with Publix. When they aired the story, they cut out everything between him saying it was a lie and him saying he consulted with people and the media can ask them, and then segued with "but someone he didn't consult with was this person" as though he had given no other refutation of the claim. The editing was so dishonest, Democrats in Florida complained about it.

'60 Minutes' faces backlash from Democrats and Publix for critical story on Florida's vaccine rollout | CNN Business

"60 Minutes" is facing backlash for a story it aired Sunday on Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis — including from the supermarket chain Publix and two prominent Democrats in the state.

www.cnn.com

Compare those stories: Project Veritas hidden cameras a CNN guy, and then edits the footage to make it look more salacious than it really is.
60 Minutes takes questions from a press conference, and then edits out the information that undermines their story.
It's reasonable to argue 60 Minutes was worse behavior: CNN has profited from covid fear, that guy did confirm that in hidden camera footage, and the lie is framing it like they were deliberately misinforming people. Publix didn't have any exclusivity deal, the vaccine distribution deal they got didn't come by the governor's orders, the lie isn't just framing the story maliciously, the entire story is a lie.

And like, you can disagree with that comparison. You might argue Project Veritas is worse. But unless you can look at these two recent media events and claim "those aren't even comparable" in spite of how totally comparable they are, that's a troubling thing, that mainstream CBS award-winning 60 minutes is comparable in quality to James O'Keefe.

Project veritas found a woman in Texas doing vote crimes... along with 1000 of other false accusation that turned out to be baseless. No one has that bad of a hit rate. If you want to say they act like the MSM, go ahead. I wouldn't even call Veritas as good as OAN, because they just haven't got many thing remotely right. Calling them on the level of OAN is an insult to OAN

 

[tstorm823]

Project veritas found a woman in Texas doing vote crimes... along with 1000 of other false accusation that turned out to be baseless. No one has that bad of a hit rate. If you want to say they act like the MSM, go ahead. I wouldn't even call Veritas as good as OAN, because they just haven't got many thing remotely right. Calling them on the level of OAN is an insult to OAN

They aren't good, and I would say they have a 100% failure rate on presentation quality, but their hit rate isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. I guarantee the vast majority of their stories don't make it to your attention. Hell, the vast majority of their stories don't get to me, even conservative leaning places don't like to touch Project Veritas cause they look so sleazy. If you really believe the only time they reported something factual was the single time (that I'm aware of) that they got a Republican arrested, you should probably question whether you have a fair enough exposure to their content to draw conclusions.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Can't fault the poor saps stuck in that job too much, those press briefings weren't really a place for truth and honesty.

After all, you were dealing with a President who drew with a sharpy on a hurricane forecast map because he couldn't admit to making a mistake in a tweet.

Going to a conference held by a team headed by that guy and expecting to be told the truth would be... Naïve?

The media is still doing the same to this day, talking about the "scary!!!" variants daily, saying vaccinated people still need to be super careful, etc. The NPR article I quoted said we're in a covid HURRICANE (and that was from March 31st), it's beyond ridiculous.