Columnist Enlists Anonymous to Take Down Rapists

[Marter]

Why was this person BANNED for this post? It is a completely feasible scenario and within the same realms of possibility that she was actually raped.

Or do we have to condemn without trial, ignore due process and engage in vigilante activity whenever the words "rape", "bullying" and "suicide" are involved?

Apparently "alleged" doesn't exist in our vocabulary.

Wow... holy shit... concurred. Are we going to ban everyone who's said anything about due process?

I'm gonna need to back this one up as well. I didn't like the guy's tone, but his point was perfectly valid.

What the hell are you guys playing at here?

Given the low number of posts and general vibe from that user, I wouldn't be surprised if they were a banjumper come back for round 2. Of course, you'd have to ask a mod to be sure.

Just wanted to clear it up for all of you.

The user was banned for a combination of name, avatar, and offensive comments. It was a staff decision.

Thank you.

 

[Kahani]

I don't know if they did rape her - but from what I read, there's no doubt that they bullied her until committed suicide - so they might not be rapists, but they're definitely not innocent.

Actually, from what I read there's plenty of doubt there. Note that the article states that the bullying occurred after a photo of the alleged rape was spread around. That suggests that the bullying was done by people not involved who only found out after seeing the photo. A photo doesn't prove rape, and as others have mentioned it could have been consensual and merely regretted afterwards. Such things are hardly unheard of. But by focussing on the alleged rapists, people seem to be completely ignoring those who actually bullied her until she committed suicide. If she was actually raped, then of course those four deserve to go to jail. But whether that happens or not, it appears those who actually drove her to suicide aren't even going to be investigated, let alone see any consequences for their actions.

 

[forlornhope22]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Somebody raped that girl. It might not be who the Anons name but a crime was committed and somebody is guilty. Therefore there are rapists that need to be brought to justice.

 

[AlwaysPractical]

I really don't think actively involving Anon in this is the right way to do it, but if it does shake some action into the system, it would be worth it. I somehow see this quickly getting out of control and ending badly and nobody being happy with Anon's involvement, but I do think either way that this would get the authorities to act on demand next time, them being scared of getting Anon involved again. We shall see.

 

[rasputin0009]

The case is closed in the RCMP's eyes. They won't revisit the case because they don't want to do the paperwork. Ya, that's right. They're lazy assholes. Mostly in part because of stupid "politically correct" policies implemented by politicians who have no idea how things work in the real world. And that's how much faith I have in my police force to uphold my country's law.

 

[Church185]

And tell me, what happens when vigilante justice is the ONLY justice?

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Yeah, because teenage girls kill themselves all the time over ALLEGED bullying.

Just because the bullying was real doesn't mean the rape was.

Ok, so alleged rape aside, these people are still guilty of distributing child pornography as part of their bullying and no one was charged. I say let Anonymous do it's thing.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Somebody raped that girl. It might not be who the Anons name but a crime was committed and somebody is guilty. Therefore there are rapists that need to be brought to justice.

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

 

[Church185]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Ok, so if rape can't be proven at this point, production and distribution of child pornography can. It's disturbing that the authorities won't do anything about investigating the things that can be proven, and at that point I'm glad to see vigilante justice.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I know. How weird is it that Anonymous is the voice of reason? I was trying to focus more on the people calling on them for illegal action (or "justice" as they like to call it). I actually meant no slight to Anonymous in this situation, as they appear to be making the right call (at least the one that aligns with my personal feelings on the necessity of rule of law). Though, who knows how long that is going to last.

So... essentially you know you've got a screw loose if Anonymous appears to be the level headed one in a conversation?

The user was banned for forum trolling, overall offensive posts and an offensive username, not for the single post.

Please contact moderators about questions regarding forum bans or actions. Posting when you don't have the full story tends to end badly.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Ok, so if rape can't be proven at this point, production and distribution of child pornography can. It's disturbing that the authorities won't do anything about investigating the things that can be proven, and at that point I'm glad to see vigilante justice.

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

 

[TheRussian]

So now Anonymous are hitmen for hire? Hmmm. Interesting. If they go out of their way to stir up trouble for the hell of it, who knows what they will do if someone just asks politely. The rapists must stand trial, but if Anonymous decides to publicly shame them as well, I'm OK with that.

 

[Church185]

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

If the authorities would do their job then I would be right there with you saying that Anon doesn't need to get involved. But they haven't even gone after things that they could prove. Unless the people involved destroyed the devices they took the pictures or videos on that data can be recovered. If they can't charged with rape, they CAN be charged with production and distribution of child pornography, since the girl in question was underage. It's disturbing that they haven't investigated further. I'm calling for them to look harder for proof, not lynch suspects. If they won't do their job, then someone should.

Anon has the power to do that.

 

[forlornhope22]

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

Looking for a criminal is now a witch hunt? There are two logical statements in question here. A crime was committed. {TRUE} Who is questioning that this girl was raped? She killed herself. Do you think she did that for fun? The second statement is that 4 specific boys did it. That's Alleged and any boys named are innocent until proven guilty. Nevertheless the first statement is true, a rape was committed, and the rapist needs to be caught and hanged.

 

[Requia]

So he's calling on anonymous to what, send rape threats to the rapists? This is not a culture known for its self restraint, and in the best case scenario you get a bunch of protesters holding up signs that say 'Do a barrel roll'.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

If the authorities would do their job then I would be right there with you saying that Anon doesn't need to get involved. But they haven't even gone after things that they could prove. Unless the people involved destroyed the devices they took the pictures or videos on that data can be recovered. If they can't charged with rape, they CAN be charged with production and distribution of child pornography, since the girl in question was underage. It's disturbing that they haven't investigated further. I'm calling for them to look harder for proof, not lynch suspects. If they won't do their job, then someone should.

Anon has the power to do that.

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

Looking for a criminal is now a witch hunt? There are two logical statements in question here. A crime was committed. {TRUE} Who is questioning that this girl was raped? She killed herself. Do you think she did that for fun? The second statement is that 4 specific boys did it. That's Alleged and any boys named are innocent until proven guilty. Nevertheless the first statement is true, a rape was committed, and the rapist needs to be caught and hanged.

See above.

 

[Church185]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

 

[Zen Toombs]

It is not Vigilantism. You're supposed to report crimes. And testify if you have knowledge of it. It is the angry mob that will punish the rapists if Anonymous releases the names that will be doing the vigilantism.

Boom! Lawyer'd!

OT: On the whole, I approve of this development. So long as Anon does their homework and keeps their word, everything should be fine.

But woe will befall the government official that decides that protecting rapists is a good idea.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

No. These kids will be punished for gangraping someone.

Also for further abusing that person to suicide.

 

[Church185]

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

They need to be punished for the things that CAN be proven, and at this point I don't really care who does it. The police would be nice, but if they won't then Anon can bring their flavor of justice in.