Columnist Enlists Anonymous to Take Down Rapists

[Church185]

And tell me, what happens when vigilante justice is the ONLY justice?

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Yeah, because teenage girls kill themselves all the time over ALLEGED bullying.

Just because the bullying was real doesn't mean the rape was.

Ok, so alleged rape aside, these people are still guilty of distributing child pornography as part of their bullying and no one was charged. I say let Anonymous do it's thing.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Somebody raped that girl. It might not be who the Anons name but a crime was committed and somebody is guilty. Therefore there are rapists that need to be brought to justice.

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

 

[Church185]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Ok, so if rape can't be proven at this point, production and distribution of child pornography can. It's disturbing that the authorities won't do anything about investigating the things that can be proven, and at that point I'm glad to see vigilante justice.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I know. How weird is it that Anonymous is the voice of reason? I was trying to focus more on the people calling on them for illegal action (or "justice" as they like to call it). I actually meant no slight to Anonymous in this situation, as they appear to be making the right call (at least the one that aligns with my personal feelings on the necessity of rule of law). Though, who knows how long that is going to last.

So... essentially you know you've got a screw loose if Anonymous appears to be the level headed one in a conversation?

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[Alleged_Alec]

ALLEGED rapists.

What the bleeding fuck is happening to "innocent until proven otherwise"?

Ok, so if rape can't be proven at this point, production and distribution of child pornography can. It's disturbing that the authorities won't do anything about investigating the things that can be proven, and at that point I'm glad to see vigilante justice.

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

 

[TheRussian]

So now Anonymous are hitmen for hire? Hmmm. Interesting. If they go out of their way to stir up trouble for the hell of it, who knows what they will do if someone just asks politely. The rapists must stand trial, but if Anonymous decides to publicly shame them as well, I'm OK with that.

 

[Church185]

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

If the authorities would do their job then I would be right there with you saying that Anon doesn't need to get involved. But they haven't even gone after things that they could prove. Unless the people involved destroyed the devices they took the pictures or videos on that data can be recovered. If they can't charged with rape, they CAN be charged with production and distribution of child pornography, since the girl in question was underage. It's disturbing that they haven't investigated further. I'm calling for them to look harder for proof, not lynch suspects. If they won't do their job, then someone should.

Anon has the power to do that.

 

[forlornhope22]

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

Looking for a criminal is now a witch hunt? There are two logical statements in question here. A crime was committed. {TRUE} Who is questioning that this girl was raped? She killed herself. Do you think she did that for fun? The second statement is that 4 specific boys did it. That's Alleged and any boys named are innocent until proven guilty. Nevertheless the first statement is true, a rape was committed, and the rapist needs to be caught and hanged.

 

[Requia]

So he's calling on anonymous to what, send rape threats to the rapists? This is not a culture known for its self restraint, and in the best case scenario you get a bunch of protesters holding up signs that say 'Do a barrel roll'.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

I've said this before on this thread: you're confusing justice with revenge.

If the authorities would do their job then I would be right there with you saying that Anon doesn't need to get involved. But they haven't even gone after things that they could prove. Unless the people involved destroyed the devices they took the pictures or videos on that data can be recovered. If they can't charged with rape, they CAN be charged with production and distribution of child pornography, since the girl in question was underage. It's disturbing that they haven't investigated further. I'm calling for them to look harder for proof, not lynch suspects. If they won't do their job, then someone should.

Anon has the power to do that.

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Ever been to Salem, around the 16920's? I think you'd feel right at home there.

Looking for a criminal is now a witch hunt? There are two logical statements in question here. A crime was committed. {TRUE} Who is questioning that this girl was raped? She killed herself. Do you think she did that for fun? The second statement is that 4 specific boys did it. That's Alleged and any boys named are innocent until proven guilty. Nevertheless the first statement is true, a rape was committed, and the rapist needs to be caught and hanged.

See above.

 

[Church185]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

 

[Zen Toombs]

It is not Vigilantism. You're supposed to report crimes. And testify if you have knowledge of it. It is the angry mob that will punish the rapists if Anonymous releases the names that will be doing the vigilantism.

Boom! Lawyer'd!

OT: On the whole, I approve of this development. So long as Anon does their homework and keeps their word, everything should be fine.

But woe will befall the government official that decides that protecting rapists is a good idea.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

No. These kids will be punished for gangraping someone.

Also for further abusing that person to suicide.

 

[Church185]

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

They need to be punished for the things that CAN be proven, and at this point I don't really care who does it. The police would be nice, but if they won't then Anon can bring their flavor of justice in.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Anon is not a detective agency. They are, as they mention often, a hate machine. They've been given access to names and if they feel like it, they'll ruin those person's lives.

Which could have been avoided if authorities had done their jobs. It keeps coming back to that.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

No. These kids will be punished for gangraping someone.

Also for further abusing that person to suicide.

Allegedly.

So these kids need to be punished for the failings of a government branch?

They need to be punished for the things that CAN be proven, and at this point I don't really care who does it. The police would be nice, but if they won't then Anon can bring their flavor of justice in.

Again: I think you mean 'revenge', not justice.

 

[Church185]

Again: I think you mean 'revenge', not justice.

No, I mean justice and I would appreciate it if you quit implying otherwise. The poor saps this Anon bomb is about to drop on could avoid it if they simply turned themselves in or helped with an investigation. Then proper justice could be served instead of the vigilante version that they'll get if something isn't done.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Again: I think you mean 'revenge', not justice.

No, I mean justice and I would appreciate it if you quit implying otherwise.

You're rooting for people's lives being destroyed. Tell me how is that not revenge?

The poor saps this Anon bomb is about to drop on could avoid it if they simply turned themselves in or helped with an investigation. Then proper justice could be served instead of the vigilante version that they'll get if something isn't done.

You do know that you have a right to avoid self-incrimination? What you're suggesting is illegal coercion.

 

[Church185]

You're rooting for people's lives being destroyed. Tell me how is that not revenge?

You do know that you have a right to avoid self-incrimination? What you're suggesting is illegal coercion.

And you're rooting for the people who already destroyed someone's life and brought it to a short, sad end. As to the last bit, it is nice to see that you approve of people being able to do whatever despicable thing they want as long as they know how not to get caught.

 

[Zeles]

This is freaking scary. All of it.

The fact that human beings would do something like that to someone.

The fact that nothing was done to punish them.

The fact that this group online can break into who-knows-what and get that information to punish them.

The fact that no one can track THEM down incase they ever go to far.

Geeze. I just hope that Anonymous knows what they're doing.