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[him over there]

PC vs Console?



There is -nothing- absolutely nothing a console can do that a PC cannot.

How about total user friendlyness towards the layman.

 

[The Lunatic]

how about 7gen J-RPGs haven't seen many on PC it's pretty big factor for some people, like me. So yeah PC cannot do j-rpgs that's why i'm not PC player, consoles have pretty much all AAA games PC have AND have j-RPGs + console exclusive games (halo,uncharted,gears and many others) .
For PS2 emulation you have to have console bios so you have to own console OR be a pirate.

Sadly, PCs can't stop publishers being assholes.

The Japanese market doesn't really see the PC as a market for RPGs, It's a shame really.

looking at my post the only thing a pc cant do is cost under 300 dollars and run brand new games great. but thats a moot point since most people have jobs that can afford it.

Intel's "i series" have onboard graphics chips that can run any present game in at-least the lowest settings.

I've ran Skyrim on Medium with one, all you'd need for that would be RAM, Motherboard, CPU and Power, likely, not much over $300.

How about total user friendlyness towards the layman.

Not by itself, but, google has pretty much everything you'd ever need.

All it takes is a moment of effort.

 

[Anthony Wells]

how about 7gen J-RPGs haven't seen many on PC it's pretty big factor for some people, like me. So yeah PC cannot do j-rpgs that's why i'm not PC player, consoles have pretty much all AAA games PC have AND have j-RPGs + console exclusive games (halo,uncharted,gears and many others) .
For PS2 emulation you have to have console bios so you have to own console OR be a pirate.

Sadly, PCs can't stop publishers being assholes.

The Japanese market doesn't really see the PC as a market for RPGs, It's a shame really.

looking at my post the only thing a pc cant do is cost under 300 dollars and run brand new games great. but thats a moot point since most people have jobs that can afford it.

Intel's "i series" have onboard graphics chips that can run any present game in at-least the lowest settings.

I've ran Skyrim on Medium with one, all you'd need for that would be RAM, Motherboard, CPU and Power, likely, not much over $300.

How about total user friendlyness towards the layman.

Not by itself, but, google has pretty much everything you'd ever need.

All it takes is a moment of effort.

i cant stand looking at games on the lowest setting....i dont mind looking at older games with their bad graphics...yet newer games i cant stand on lowest.... as i said though its a moot point for most people and one i have a job it will be for me too.

 

[him over there]

How about total user friendlyness towards the layman.

Not by itself, but, google has pretty much everything you'd ever need.

All it takes is a moment of effort.

Effort and time that people aren't willing to put forth.

 

[The Lunatic]

i cant stand looking at games on the lowest setting....i dont mind looking at older games with their bad graphics...yet newer games i cant stand on lowest.... as i said though its a moot point for most people and one i have a job it will be for me too.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I'm rather the same, you feel like you're missing out on something.

Skyrim wasn't too bad, actually, it was better when I got my Graphics Card repaired, but, I was glad that the processor alone could run it at this stage.

Ultimately though, it's a budget option for a gamer, I'd honestly say it'd be a good idea as it would allow upgrading while still being some of the latest parts and completely usable in their own right.

Effort and time that people aren't willing to put forth.

Well, if you don't want to put time and effort into your passion, perhaps it's just not for you.

 

[The Wooster]

i cant stand looking at games on the lowest setting....i dont mind looking at older games with their bad graphics...yet newer games i cant stand on lowest.... as i said though its a moot point for most people and one i have a job it will be for me too.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I'm rather the same, you feel like you're missing out on something.

Skyrim wasn't too bad, actually, it was better when I got my Graphics Card repaired, but, I was glad that the processor alone could run it at this stage.

Ultimately though, it's a budget option for a gamer, I'd honestly say it'd be a good idea as it would allow upgrading while still being some of the latest parts and completely usable in their own right.

Effort and time that people aren't willing to put forth.

Well, if you don't want to put time and effort into your passion, perhaps it's just not for you.

Oh yes, however will we keep the casuals out without arbitrary stumbling blocks and barriers to entry?

 

[The Lunatic]

Oh yes, however will we keep the casuals out without arbitrary stumbling blocks and barriers to entry?

I honestly think casual gamers are a good thing. I don't think altering games significantly to appeal to a more "Casual audience" is a good thing, but, the diversity that casual gaming brings is far away one of the better things to happen to the industry.

I can safely say the games aren't for me, but, I can appreciate the idea of something just being fun and accessibly to all. And PC gaming is definitely not perfect for this, nor are consoles, really. They're more suitable due to being a simple turn-it-on-and-go.

However, if you're going to make the effort to come to a forum and read news about games, post in topics and discuss your opinions on these kinds of things, I don't see why anyone would have issue with using the same effort to partake in another, closely related form of entertainment.

 

[Doom972]

Console gamers prefer consoles for comfort? I tried consoles, everything from the current gen has way too long loading times. Some games can be installed to the console's hard drive but then you have to *gasp* wait a few minutes before playing.
If it's a big AAA title I just let Steam download it during the night. No cd-keys, no DRM other than having to be online for the first run, and I can plug it to a big screen TV and play with an X-Box 360 controller if I so choose.

 

[dubious_wolf]

speaking of shiny trays... I went to the apple store last night and heard a lady ecstatically stating "she was on the cloud". this is why apple does so well. And it hurts me.

Then again I bought stock in Apple a few years back. So the money I've made off the plebeians helps to dull the pain, if only slightly.

The ignorance and apathetic population feels it is too busy to bother with superiority and instead goes for ease of use. Which is really too bad because the mac really is a good computer. It's just expensive as hell. Plus they are pushing the technology which will eventually lead to data pads from any generic sci-fi brand.

I didn't grow up with computers so I never gained entry into the PC gaming master race.

 

[GaudyMarrko]

lol ipad 2 is a shiney tray

 

[Kermi]

Way to make a completely irrelevant post. I was referring to people who enjoyed ME1 and 2 but are opting to boycott ME3 for some bullshit unrelated to the game. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy a game series I happen to enjoy.

You're free to not like the games and I never said otherwise.

It was not irrelevant. I'll explain it again.

You can to love a game to death and still not "buy" it (ie: by not buying new or just pirating it).

Now seriously, what is wrong with me loving, say, Ninjustu but not be willing to pay for overpriced classes because there are no cheaper dojos around? I might like it a lot. And still refuse to go. Therefore I won't reach that belt I wanted and my progress will end halfway.

People feel good about sticking to their principles. I guess that the majority of the players who are really going to boycott it actually feel good about it. And probably it feels better than actually playing the game. I don't know, I could not name any game that made me feel better than "real life accomplishment" (although a few are pretty close). That would be just wrong.

So they probably will feel more satisfaction than you. Specially those who pirate/buy a used copy. They will feel good twice.

Even though you are now saying something completely different than you were before, your point is still not relevant to mine. To use your example, let's say you practice ninjitsu, I practice karate.

For years, you laugh at me because Karate is an inferior art and I am wasting my time studying it, and you go on the internet and say "today I was in my ninjitsu class practicing climbing walls and throwing shuriken and shit, while this other guy I know spent an hour practising katas. What an idiot. Ninjitsu is so awesome."

Then one day you go to Ninjitsu class and your sensei wants to keep track of his attendence numbers so he asks you to sign in when you start class. And you're so incensed that you go up to your sensei, throw your gi on the ground at his feet and say "ninjitsu is bullshit" before storming out and never studying any martial art ever again.

You come up to me and say "you should quit karate" and I ask you why, and you say you quit ninjitsu. Naturally, I am perplexed as to how this is at all relevant to me. I'm supposed to take part in your indignancy and sympathise with you, when you have never had anything but contempt for me.

That is MY position, and before you try and say that my example does not correctly correspond with your position, consider whether or not it was ever meant to in the first place, before trying to make an argument for me that I never intended.

For some reason you've decided to take my post, which was not at all related to or directed at you or your personal behaviour, and take it as an attack which needs to be defended against. You seem to think I am making a generalisation about PC gamers in general, or boycotters in general, which is not the case.

 

[w00tage]

jack that PC into your 1080p TV bud, the HDMI port works fine. I liked the experience so much that I just moved to using the TV as my main monitor, and I now use my TV stand to hold all the stuff that I used to have a computer desk for. Life is so much better now that I'm free of the computer desk

 

[Hiroshi Mishima]

Honestly, if I wanna play a PS2 game, I'll play my friggin PS2. I don't know why people insist on selling their old consoles just to go and rebuy all the crap they had again on the fancy new console for more money.

And if my PS1 breaks down, I'll start emulating it. I sure as shit ain't gonna buy a PS3 cause I wanna play FF8, Soul Reaver or Mega Man Legends.

On the other hand, I absolutely hate how numerous 360 games have shitty text cause I don't have an expensive HDTV. If I could figure out what I need to use my moniter with it (without tearing apart my Xbox), I'd be happy. Unfortunately, I get the impression it'll be a costly cable or something.

 

[Sean Deli]

Yes, the loneliness of a PC gamer... The days I wept when thinking about.

Only when you think about PC gamers spending weeks with literally hundreds of their comrades in player-made alliance on a mega-server supporting over 60 000 player simultaneously in a joint world of Eve Online, or of millions of players of World of Warcraft, or about millions of people playing Lineage 2 (among other things), not to mention World of Tanks, DOTa, etc, etc. -
only than can you truly appreciate the superiority of consoles in application to the multiplayer.

Leave me now, as I go and weep for the PC multiplayer, may it rest in peace (and tonnes of money Blizzard and CCP are making)...

 

[Dhatz]

talk about framerates, I guarantee in 5 years 120hz will be standard.

 

[Idlemessiah]

Guh, moving into this gen of consoles was a trial. My laptop was always used for anything the PS2 couldn't do (mainly RTSs) and the current gen games were bought for the laptop. The laptop then started to show it's age. It can barely run Fallout 3 on minimum settings, so I was posed with a difficult choice; spend over a grand on a proper desktop rig, or spend £200-300 on a 360 with games and controllers. It took me until about 2 years ago to make my mind up, but price outshon quality in my peniless student mind

 

[Jbowdown]

talk about framerates, I guarantee in 5 years 120hz will be standard.

Are you trying to say the the entire electrical grid of the United States will switch from 60Hz to 120Hz? Frame-rate and refresh rate are completely different things. Refresh rates for broadcasting to analog TV's were set to the Hz rate of the electrical grid of the corresponding countries. The only reason you see the current generation of TVs advertised with 120Hz, 180Hz, or 240Hz is that companies want to sell the uneducated public cheap TVs at a premium, because obviously these TVs are 'better' because these numbers are higher. The other reason why the numbers incrementally increase by 60Hz is that the TV just takes the 60Hz signal coming from broadcast or your entertainment device and scans it 2 to 4 times per frame vs the standard 1. The extra processing these TVs are providing do not add anything to the original signal and in some cases will just make it look worse. A new cheap consumer-grade TV running at 240Hz still won't look as good or as crisp as a professional-grade TV running at 60Hz built over 5 years ago. Also currently HDMI only has the bandwidth to to 1080p at 60Hz (30 frames), in order to get 120Hz out of HDMI you would have to double the bandwidth the cable and the interfaces can handle. The only thing that can currently handle 1080p at 120Hz is Dual-Link DVI, which I'm guessing your TV doesn't have!

 

[PunkRex]

That's what i hate about consoles - they bring disparity. I hope one day PC gods will destroy all consoles, so people could live happily and united.

Can't tell if quoting Sephiroth or Hitler... proberly both... still funny.

Consoles also have the added benefit of being semi-portable. Your mum comes home with her mates just take it up stairs, you tried dragging a computer up a flight of stairs... unless you simply cast off the shackles of the primative human race and get an Alienware laptop. My brother got one to play WoW on, the levels of envy I feel around it turns the room a sickly green.

 

[mechanixis]

If I could go to the store and pick up a box that certifiably contained a PC that would run all the games I wanted it to run, I would buy it in a heartbeat. As it stands I can't be bothered to spend eight hundred dollars for an amateur computer assembly project that may or may not run what I want for a finite window of game releases.

 

[mechanixis]

Console gamers prefer consoles for comfort? I tried consoles, everything from the current gen has way too long loading times. Some games can be installed to the console's hard drive but then you have to *gasp* wait a few minutes before playing.
If it's a big AAA title I just let Steam download it during the night. No cd-keys, no DRM other than having to be online for the first run, and I can plug it to a big screen TV and play with an X-Box 360 controller if I so choose.

You missed the point. The biggest hurdle is having a PC that can run current-gen games at all. If you want to sufficiently outdo console performance to make it worth your while, you practically need a degree in computer engineering. Load times are nothing compared to getting a popup that tells you your graphics card isn't good enough.