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[Doom972]

Console gamers prefer consoles for comfort? I tried consoles, everything from the current gen has way too long loading times. Some games can be installed to the console's hard drive but then you have to *gasp* wait a few minutes before playing.
If it's a big AAA title I just let Steam download it during the night. No cd-keys, no DRM other than having to be online for the first run, and I can plug it to a big screen TV and play with an X-Box 360 controller if I so choose.

You missed the point. The biggest hurdle is having a PC that can run current-gen games at all. If you want to sufficiently outdo console performance to make it worth your while, you practically need a degree in computer engineering. Load times are nothing compared to getting a popup that tells you your graphics card isn't good enough.

A hope you realize how much of an exaggeration that is. You have countless of guides (one page, so no tl;dr) available on how to pick a gaming computer. It's not rocket (or computer) science.
I know that for some people having to invest a few minutes to learn something new is considered a waste of time, but I don't know how such gamers can play games that don't have hand-holding tutorials.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Too true, but I don't feel bad about neglecting the PC market. If I had taken the initial 430 dollars I spent to get my Elite 360 with two games almost three years ago, and instead spent it to upgrade my PC, I would never have had the amazing gaming experience I've had since then.

The reason I got my 360 was because all my friends ended up getting one each, a year before I did, and I didn't want to be left out. Because really, that first and only year of being the only one not with an 360 was rather hellish, because at all the game nights they had, I was the guy that was dropped onto the friend that had the biggest TV, so that split screening would be better.

I grew up with both consoles and a gaming PC, but when I became an adult that's parents aren't going to give money to anymore for keeping up with both gaming platforms, I had to make a decision, and consoles really are more convenient.

If I had used the money to upgrade my PC then, I would most likely be gaming away by myself in my room, and I would have grown apart from my friends because gaming is really the linchpin between us, because it is what we talk about most, and it just isn't fun to randomly talk about games that we know the other isn't playing and sharing in the experience.

Funny thing is, even when I play something in my living room I end up standing in front of the TV anyway, being relaxed back in my couch makes my reaction time quite shite so I can't play properly...making my PC actually more comfortable.

Do you mean standing as in actual standing, or just sitting up in a chair or couch?

I, in my 22 years since I was introduced to gaming, have never seen a person that is an actual gamer, stand up in front of a television because it some how helped with response times, or anything for that matter.

The only person I've seen that voluntarily got up from sitting while playing a console game, was my grandma back in the day of the NES. She would occasionally have a go at the first Mario Bros.(Really the first and only video game she ever played).

When she played, at the times she had to jump over the holes in the levels, she would actually jump up out of her chair as if her moving would some how make Mario's jump better and make it across the hole(her, unknowingly predicting the future of gaming two decades later).

I've known many gamers over the years, console gamers and diehard PC gamers that changed to exclusively console because they just couldn't keep up with the PC upgrades because they didn't have the money. Out of all of them, none of them ever stood in front of the television while playing.

At least not with straight controller games. They of course stand when we play Wii bowling and such, because that is what the game was designed for, same goes for the music/guitar games.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Honestly, if I wanna play a PS2 game, I'll play my friggin PS2. I don't know why people insist on selling their old consoles just to go and rebuy all the crap they had again on the fancy new console for more money.

And if my PS1 breaks down, I'll start emulating it. I sure as shit ain't gonna buy a PS3 cause I wanna play FF8, Soul Reaver or Mega Man Legends.

On the other hand, I absolutely hate how numerous 360 games have shitty text cause I don't have an expensive HDTV. If I could figure out what I need to use my moniter with it (without tearing apart my Xbox), I'd be happy. Unfortunately, I get the impression it'll be a costly cable or something.

Do some research before taking my word on it, but I think if your monitor has a DVI input (which it should if it's at all modern), all you need is an HDMI cable and an HDMI to DVI adapter, which should only cost a few dollars (unless you don't currently have the cable, in which case you need to buy one -- you can get those for just a couple bucks online). HDMI and DVI are compatible in the same way SD and MMC cards are; DVI can handle the same video signal, but you'll need to run something else for audio, and you can't use it for Bluray because it doesn't support the DRM. Aside from that, though, it's a simple mechanical difference, which is why the adapters don't cost much.

 

[keiskay]

A hope you realize how much of an exaggeration that is. You have countless of guides (one page, so no tl;dr) available on how to pick a gaming computer. It's not rocket (or computer) science.
I know that for some people having to invest a few minutes to learn something new is considered a waste of time, but I don't know how such gamers can play games that don't have hand-holding tutorials.

No it really isn't. I'm planning on building my own P.C. for the first time and it's going to take weeks of going through articles, watching videos and practicing on old computers before I can get close to doing it for real.

i built my first PC this year, it wasn't hard at all and it worked right away, the only thing that took forever was getting the wiring to not be clusterfucked everywhere. other then that it was a simple, screw this in here, snap these pieces in here and there, put this cable here, and done. took about 2 hours.

the second pc i built was for a friend and it was ***** but thats cause it was a server pc.

 

[Funkysandwich]

A hope you realize how much of an exaggeration that is. You have countless of guides (one page, so no tl;dr) available on how to pick a gaming computer. It's not rocket (or computer) science.
I know that for some people having to invest a few minutes to learn something new is considered a waste of time, but I don't know how such gamers can play games that don't have hand-holding tutorials.

No it really isn't. I'm planning on building my own P.C. for the first time and it's going to take weeks of going through articles, watching videos and practicing on old computers before I can get close to doing it for real.

Dude, it's like Lego. With fewer pieces. And less steps. It takes about half an hour to learn how to build a PC.

I've built a bunch of computers before, and it's pretty darn simple. If you're practicing on old computers you might think it's really hard, because old computers were a lot harder to build as they weren't as simplified as new ones. I cut my teeth on Pentium II systems, and those things are a nightmare compared to modern computers.

 

[dobahci]

No it really isn't. I'm planning on building my own P.C. for the first time and it's going to take weeks of going through articles, watching videos and practicing on old computers before I can get close to doing it for real.

If you're spending weeks researching, you're probably overdoing it. Building a PC isn't hard as long as you already know and understand the basics of computer hardware and software. I only spent a few days choosing components for my first PC, and most of that time was trying to figure out how to get everything to fit within a certain budget.

I've never really gotten into the whole console vs. PC argument. I'm a PC gamer myself but I don't care enough about the issue to argue with anyone about it. But one of the main reasons why I tend to stay away from consoles is that I don't like all of my gaming (or worse, all of my entertainment/media) being controlled by a single company. You might argue that there are a small set of companies that control most of the gaming world on PCs as well, but there's a big difference between "a small set" and "one". PC gaming is about choice and flexibility, it's about having control over your media, your data, your information. I tend to be less trusting of any system that isn't open enough to allow the average person to easily write and compile code on it, and then share that code with others.

Plus, most people already have a PC in the home. Might as well play games on it.

 

[Doom972]

A hope you realize how much of an exaggeration that is. You have countless of guides (one page, so no tl;dr) available on how to pick a gaming computer. It's not rocket (or computer) science.
I know that for some people having to invest a few minutes to learn something new is considered a waste of time, but I don't know how such gamers can play games that don't have hand-holding tutorials.

No it really isn't. I'm planning on building my own P.C. for the first time and it's going to take weeks of going through articles, watching videos and practicing on old computers before I can get close to doing it for real.

That's great, but I wasn't talking about actually building one.
I was talking about picking parts and get a computer built for you or picking an already built computer with the right parts. That's what I was talking about when I said it's not complicated.

 

[z121231211]

What's with so many people thinking that if you play on PC, it must be with a keyboard and mouse on a desk with you sitting 2'-3' away from the screen? It's not hard to play a PC like a console and vice-versa.

Is there some horrible social fear people have with using things differently? Like avoiding bringing your laptop to a coffee shop in order to not be labeled a hipster? It's a laptop, take it and use it anywhere you want like it was meant to be used. It's a PC, just a box of potential that you can put anywhere and hook up whatever you want to it. Whether that be at a desk with a monitor, keyboard and mouse, or in a living room with a wireless controller, HDMI TV, and surround sound.

 

[Neferius]

GG

Sometimes I wonder if, by making Multiplayer more available to consoles and hand-helds, the Industry-developers aren't secretly taking their revenge for all those LAN Parties they didn't get invited to.

 

[Sneaklemming]

I know this thread is long over - but I just wanted to say that I played me3 on my couch with my laptop hooked up with a HDMI cable to my TV, using an xbox360 controller.

Best of both worlds.

 

[Adultism]

Oh. Big screen TV, Computer, Couch

Perfect mix.

 

[taltamir]

It may be inferior hardware, but it is much more fun to play on my 103" mega-fallus television.

The PC is equally easy to plug in to your TV or projector.
A few years back I hooked mine up to a 720p projector on a 150 inch clear wall with 7.1 surrounded (mounted on walls in strategic locations). Used it for entertainment center as well as video games.

2:sitting on a comfortable couch with your controller in your hand's.(better comfort)

Controllers are horrible unergonomic things that hurt your hands... but if you must, it costs 15$ to get a USB to wireless xbox360 controller adapter. (or PS3 controller if you swing that way.) I own one to use on console ports games where the developers did such a horrible job of porting keyboard and mouse support that I am forced to resort to a controller.

Put the disk in and it works

Don't you mean "put the disk in and wait one hour for the mandatory install, then another hour for the mandatory patch, then it sorta works but still buggy since QA went the way of the dodo the moment online patching was introduced"?
Because with the PS2 and earlier this was a good point for consoles... But really not with the current gen.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

Wow, I did not expect to get a quote from this old thread. As such, I'll actually respond to it.

It may be inferior hardware, but it is much more fun to play on my 103" mega-fallus television.

The PC is equally easy to plug in to your TV or projector.
A few years back I hooked mine up to a 720p projector on a 150 inch clear wall with 7.1 surrounded (mounted on walls in strategic locations). Used it for entertainment center as well as video games.

This was a joke aimed mainly at Futurama fans (see "into the wild green yonder"). My secondary monitor for the past four years is actually a television and I spent time as an A/V guy for years doing this kind of stuff. The catch is that actually setting up a PC to run on a large television is more a problem of cables (especially if you use a corded keyboard and mouse) and maintaining a reasonable distance from the screen to keep the field of vision reasonable. The larger the screen, the farther back you have to be situated.

On a side note, I'm not a huge fan of projectors. Between their expense (yes, they're cheaper now, but it's still not worth it), the pain of proper installation, complex sound systems you have to buy additionally to have any good audio, and lighting concerns (a dark room is pretty much completely required and that still doesn't guarantee a good picture), it's easier to just use a television.

2:sitting on a comfortable couch with your controller in your hand's.(better comfort)

Controllers are horrible unergonomic things that hurt your hands... but if you must, it costs 15$ to get a USB to wireless xbox360 controller adapter. (or PS3 controller if you swing that way.) I own one to use on console ports games where the developers did such a horrible job of porting keyboard and mouse support that I am forced to resort to a controller.

Compared to a keyboard? Controllers are better to hold and a tad more intuitive. Plus, you don't need a surface to set a keyboard and mouse on in order to play and carpal tunnel is a tad harder to get via a controller.

Put the disk in and it works

Don't you mean "put the disk in and wait one hour for the mandatory install, then another hour for the mandatory patch, then it sorta works but still buggy since QA went the way of the dodo the moment online patching was introduced"?
Because with the PS2 and earlier this was a good point for consoles... But really not with the current gen.

Only the PS3 has bad loading times. Both the 360 and Wii load faster than my up-to-date PC tower (which is mainly used for MMOs, strategy games, and work) and do not require installation onto the console unless you want it to. Besides, the amount of bugs I've had when I was mainly a PC gamer far outweighs the number of bugs I've had on the consoles, Fallout New Vegas included.

Plus, auto-patching is quite nice for those of us that are a tad too lazy to pull up the install-wizard on the PC.