Damn is ME3 already out? I still haven't finished my hardest difficulty ME2 playthrough (from 2 years ago) yet.
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I'm saying a mid-range PC != a gaming PC. If you had spent $600, instead of $400, we wouldn't be having this discussion. For that matter, $400 isn't exactly "mid range," unless you built it yourself; that's dirt cheap for a modern computer, and way the heck on the low end for something pre-built.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Edit: Also, Oblivion came out in 2005, Fallout 3 came out a year or two after that. Was your PC capable of playing 2011 games in 2011 (assuming that's what you meant by "a year ago")? Because if so, you haven't listed one.
Hmmmmmm, my sister is the only person I know who owns a console. (Three actually, because she bought a PS3 a fortnight ago, before that it was just the Wii and GameCube) That isn't to say most of my friends are PC gamers, there are only a couple of us left, most have gone Mac. That said most of the Macs run XP in Boot Camp so we still get together and LAN games from GOG once in a blue moon. My experience is more and more with randoms these days is all I'm saying, and in Australia, on PC, randoms aren't that bad.
Personally, for some inexplicible reason, I stand up when the action mounts! Especially in first person... I find my shoulders sometimes turn too, when I am in combat and trying to turn... I must look like a right tool, but hey, at least im into the game!!rolfwesselius said:
OT: Good to see a PC gamer who can appreciate a console gamers way! I don't have the time or expertese to run half of the games, nor can I be bothered to try and get a gaming spec computer, and chose all the parts, and then spend what would be hours of trawling through the internet trying to work out how to install the game properly, eventually giving up and having no fun what so ever... and my xbox holds me at knife point if I so much as think about turning my laptop on in it's vicinity! :S
"mid-range" for $400?NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Excuse me, but if you chose the parts and paid someone to build it, it would be "mid range".
If you paid a brand to throw piss-poor components and expected that a simple upgrade could escape a "bottleneck" then you were wrong. Brands can shove cardboard inside their products and still charge top dollar for it.
If you bought it yourself from scratch, then you chose some kind of component that bottlenecked it. I made the mistake of trusting a cheap PSU brand and it didn't have enough power to let me play BF2. Which isn't exactly the most recent game available.
Unless you need a computer for things like word processing and internet browsing anyway, in which case the PC costs an extra $200 for high quality gaming, while the PS3 runs anywhere from $250-$600 depending on when in its lifecycle you buy/bought it. You might have had a case last gen, where the PS2 eventually dropped to $50-$100 at the end of its life cycle, but it's just not accurate anymore.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Welp, you're more than welcome to play with me and my group of bros. I can understand feeling excluded from a circle like this, but as a PC gamer, over my time in various communities for various games, I have made a bunch of very good online friends who I have a great time with and play with frequently. Since the death of the split screen experience, I don't think there's a lot of difference between making connections with like minded gamers online, and playing with your RL pals, each in your own living room. Spread your wings. Find good people, internationally if necessary. We exist, and we're great company.
Cheers!
Cheers!
(If you have a crappy 11 year old computer and a 103" mega-phallus TV, you're doing it wrong)trollpwner said:
I hate K+M, and I'm not a graphics whore. People can preach to me the powerful tools of a proper graphics card or an interface I hate for gaming, but I don't care. It's not even about my couch.
Never really got the problem, anyway: You can buy and play with friends, or stick to your moral high ground and game alone, aloof and superior. Or you can spend twice as much to try and split the difference. Something for everyone.
Never really got the problem, anyway: You can buy and play with friends, or stick to your moral high ground and game alone, aloof and superior. Or you can spend twice as much to try and split the difference. Something for everyone.
I'm now actually quite interested in the hardware you had in your pre-built system and what you 'upgraded' it with. An $80 GPU and a $125 CPU is still on the low-end of the spectrum in each of the respective hardware categories. It seems to me that you upgraded your low-end system with just more low-end parts. Also, free advice for everyone reading this, don't ever buy a pre-built PC unless you know for a fact that it has a clean or OEM version of Windows 7 64-bit on it. Powerspec and Sager are good examples of a companies that uses clean installations on their retail computers. Much of the bottleneck on name-brand computers will come from the 20-30 extra background processes and programs these companies install on the system combined with all the limitations a 32-bit OS now has for gaming.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
My system has cost me around 1,100 dollars last year after a few upgrades to the $800 base model I bought and I'd consider that a mid-range gaming computer. Even my 'mid-range' computer plays every game I throw at it on ultra-high settings with at least 4x AA on without a hit on FPS (this includes New Vegas, Skyrim high-res pack, Crysis and Deus Ex: HR to name a few). But of course I don't just game on it as I also use it as a media server, for web-browsing, business, and Video/Audio Editing (of which the first editing job paid for the cost of the original unit). Computers are like cars, spend a little more on quality components and you'll more than make up the cost in the added longevity of the product.
I'm quite the opposite. The 360 controller is uncomfortable for me and I just know the Gamecube controller has seen the last of it's usability for me. I don't even own a Wii. Keyboard and precision mouse control FTW!TimeLord said:
My thoughts on tablets can be explained elsewhere.
Way to make a completely irrelevant post. I was referring to people who enjoyed ME1 and 2 but are opting to boycott ME3 for some bullshit unrelated to the game. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy a game series I happen to enjoy.ElPatron said:
You're free to not like the games and I never said otherwise.
Gods, I wanted to just hug Erin with how miserable she looked in the last panel. :<
As for PC vs Console.. I spent many years as a console gamer and I still prefer it for a lot of reasons. However, I do not like doing multiplayer on consoles because of split-screen hurting my eyes (and the resolution hasn't helped). Unfortunately, my computer isn't the most up-to-date piece of hardware there is and I wouldn't even be able to conceive of running ME3, Skyrim, or even Portal 2. In those situations I often have to either give it us (as with Skyrim), or play it on my Xbox (as with Portal 2).
Also, as has been said a few times, I refuse to pay extra money to play console games with other people. I also hate having to pay 3 times more for a game on XBL than I do on Steam, but if it won't run on my computer.. I'm at an impasse.
EDIT: Someone said "what about when you hunch over while playing an FPS as the action gets heavy?" And I thought, why the hell DO people do that? The only thing I can think of is that as it gets more intense they have to lean in closer to get a better look at the screen since everything is often so many shades of grey and brown or dimly lit corridors. With a PC, the screen is naturally much closer.
In my case, I lean in while playing console games these days anyway cause my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be (damage by Diabetes Type 2), and as said, a lot of these modern games have graphics where it's hard to make out anything. I can hardly see the enemies in stuff like Gears of War half the time.
As for PC vs Console.. I spent many years as a console gamer and I still prefer it for a lot of reasons. However, I do not like doing multiplayer on consoles because of split-screen hurting my eyes (and the resolution hasn't helped). Unfortunately, my computer isn't the most up-to-date piece of hardware there is and I wouldn't even be able to conceive of running ME3, Skyrim, or even Portal 2. In those situations I often have to either give it us (as with Skyrim), or play it on my Xbox (as with Portal 2).
Also, as has been said a few times, I refuse to pay extra money to play console games with other people. I also hate having to pay 3 times more for a game on XBL than I do on Steam, but if it won't run on my computer.. I'm at an impasse.
EDIT: Someone said "what about when you hunch over while playing an FPS as the action gets heavy?" And I thought, why the hell DO people do that? The only thing I can think of is that as it gets more intense they have to lean in closer to get a better look at the screen since everything is often so many shades of grey and brown or dimly lit corridors. With a PC, the screen is naturally much closer.
In my case, I lean in while playing console games these days anyway cause my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be (damage by Diabetes Type 2), and as said, a lot of these modern games have graphics where it's hard to make out anything. I can hardly see the enemies in stuff like Gears of War half the time.
PC vs Console?
Really? That's still a debate?
There is -nothing- absolutely nothing a console can do that a PC cannot.
Installing games?
That'll take you at most 3-4 minutes these days with up to date hardware. (Which is nothing compared to the length of time it takes to install games on the consoles, I might add.)
There's a big difference between "I can't figure out how to do that" and "It can't do that".
Really? That's still a debate?
There is -nothing- absolutely nothing a console can do that a PC cannot.
Installing games?
That'll take you at most 3-4 minutes these days with up to date hardware. (Which is nothing compared to the length of time it takes to install games on the consoles, I might add.)
There's a big difference between "I can't figure out how to do that" and "It can't do that".
It was not irrelevant. I'll explain it again.Kermi said:
You can to love a game to death and still not "buy" it (ie: by not buying new or just pirating it).
Now seriously, what is wrong with me loving, say, Ninjustu but not be willing to pay for overpriced classes because there are no cheaper dojos around? I might like it a lot. And still refuse to go. Therefore I won't reach that belt I wanted and my progress will end halfway.
People feel good about sticking to their principles. I guess that the majority of the players who are really going to boycott it actually feel good about it. And probably it feels better than actually playing the game. I don't know, I could not name any game that made me feel better than "real life accomplishment" (although a few are pretty close). That would be just wrong.
So they probably will feel more satisfaction than you. Specially those who pirate/buy a used copy. They will feel good twice.
Just confront someone saying that.The Lunatic said:
They will usually admit they are just too stupid to figure out how to google or just call you a "nerd".
Hilarity ensures.
I would love to be a pc gamer only...absolutely love it...but i make 10 dollars a week currently....i cant ever get a gaming pc at that rate...once i get a job i could..but i dont want to throw my first 5 paychecks away to upgrade my gaming computer... on the other hand i already have a ps3...so all i need to do is buy the game i want to play...
looking at my post the only thing a pc cant do is cost under 300 dollars and run brand new games great. but thats a moot point since most people have jobs that can afford it.
The Lunatic said:
looking at my post the only thing a pc cant do is cost under 300 dollars and run brand new games great. but thats a moot point since most people have jobs that can afford it.
how about 7gen J-RPGs haven't seen many on PCThe Lunatic said:
it's pretty big factor for some people, like me. So yeah PC cannot do j-rpgs that's why i'm not PC player, consoles have pretty much all AAA games PC have AND have j-RPGs + console exclusive games (halo,uncharted,gears and many others) .For PS2 emulation you have to have console bios so you have to own console OR be a pirate.