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Satinavian

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Not many good allies. But they need to figure out something fast, and my analysis is that Israel knows the window of opportunity to enjoy support from the US is closing due to younger demographics not liking them. But that is likely the only good news; this is the reality.
They can't solve this. They are in a shity situation and utterly powerless. There is no "oh, if only the Palestinians did this or that it would stop the genozide, land stealing and give them a chance for a state". There is no such option. When they try to oppose, they get killed like in Gaza. When they don't, they get killed like in the West Bank. They tried their best to find allies for decades, they can't look even more for allies.

They basically can only wait and hope something changes for the better.
 

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:ROFLMAO:

That would be more interesting coming from someone who wasn't so overconfident in his own rationalised knowledge.
On the contrary, I am aware of my own limitations. I am better at academics than anyone else you will ever interact with. I'm the guy with the perfect score on the math SAT. I once chose a 300 level literature class as my random freshman year elective, and for a paper where the prompt was to compare the use of metaphors in some of the works we discussed, I explicitly chose works of non-fiction and got an A. Twice in my time in college, I stumbled into the classroom late not realizing there was a test (once in organic chemistry, once in fluid dynamics), in both cases open note exams of which I brought none, and in both cases I beat the curve handily. This sort of thing is my most natural talent, and that lets me tell you with confidence that it is a useless talent that does not deserve any of the respect or honors it receives.
 

Agema

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On the contrary, I am aware of my own limitations. I am better at academics than anyone else you will ever interact with. I'm the guy with the perfect score on the math SAT. I once chose a 300 level literature class as my random freshman year elective, and for a paper where the prompt was to compare the use of metaphors in some of the works we discussed, I explicitly chose works of non-fiction and got an A. Twice in my time in college, I stumbled into the classroom late not realizing there was a test (once in organic chemistry, once in fluid dynamics), in both cases open note exams of which I brought none, and in both cases I beat the curve handily. This sort of thing is my most natural talent, and that lets me tell you with confidence that it is a useless talent that does not deserve any of the respect or honors it receives.
You clearly aren't aware of your limitations, because you don't seem to realise that acing a maths exam, getting a good mark at a low-level university English essay and above average scores in tests you didn't revise for means that the only thing you're probably very good at is maths.
 
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Rationalized knowledge is suspicious. Conclusions drawn not from observation but from pure intellectual exercise have no more reason to believe than random guesses by a hobo. Nothing is as unobservable as history, you cannot go back, you can only see the records of it, and those are (without unearthing lost records) almost entirely unchanging. Yet academic fields require people to write something new to contribute to their field in order to reach the highest positions, incentivizing people to reason things beyond what is stated in the records, and a sharp mind can reason its way to falsehoods at least as easily as it can ascertain the truth.

In essence, all professional historians are fanfic writers.
You seem to have a very limited view of how the field actually works.

Most importantly sources aren’t static. New ones often emerge and advances in technology gives us better ways to verify sources.

Historians compiling already existing sources also isn’t particularly frowned upon. A historian lying through his teeth that Buchanan was secretly a capable president just to get noticed(as you allege they’d do) would be frowned upon though.

And sometimes the passage of time simply calls for a reevaluation. Without the bitter memories of the depression and without Roosevelts charisma the view of Hoover is bound to get a bit more positive. I recall you yourself very much being a revisionist in this regard(and with LJB in the opposite direction). Was this just you “trying to be noticed”?

One can concede that history is a very human domain and that this comes with limitations but that’s not what you said. You seemed to argue the limitations stem from ignorance or even bad faith. Kinda offensive actually
 

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You clearly aren't aware of your limitations, because you don't seem to realise that acing a maths exam, getting a good mark at a low-level university English essay and above average scores in tests you didn't revise for means that the only thing you're probably very good at is maths.
No, I'm very good at all of it. Friends in totally unrelated majors would ask me for help and opinions. Two of my siblings have doctorates, they would tell you (unhappily) that I'm better at these things, and also (much more happily) inform you that it doesn't matter.
Most importantly sources aren’t static. New ones often emerge and advances in technology gives us better ways to verify sources.

And sometimes the passage of time simply calls for a reevaluation. Without the bitter memories of the depression and without Roosevelts charisma the view of Hoover is bound to get a bit more positive. I recall you yourself very much being a revisionist in this regard(and with LJB in the opposite direction). Was this just you “trying to be noticed”?
All of that is fair, none of it leads to "MLK would have failed without Malcolm X". That's fanfiction.
 

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No, I'm very good at all of it.
Where's the evidence? The actual evidence we have to go on here, what you write on this forum, broadly suggests that you are unremarkable. You may well be good at maths, but given recent statements I don't think you understand psychology, and numerous other subjects. Your logic is frequently leaky. And much more.

Thing is, intelligence (if we assume a narrow sense of information processing, as intelligence is poorly defined) only goes so far. Much of what determines output is knowledge, research, application, memory, clarity, dedication, perception, insight, creativity, etc. Mere intelligence can be outperformed by hard work, or practice, or originality, etc. The world is full of blandly clever people spouting banality, because for all their intelligence, they're talking about stuff they don't really know much about and so inherently ill-equipped to offer great insights.

That's what it is to be aware of one's limitations.
 

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Thing is, intelligence (if we assume a narrow sense of information processing, as intelligence is poorly defined) only goes so far. Much of what determines output is knowledge, research, application, memory, clarity, dedication, perception, insight, creativity, etc. Mere intelligence can be outperformed by hard work, or practice, or originality, etc. The world is full of blandly clever people spouting banality, because for all their intelligence, they're talking about stuff they don't really know much about and so inherently ill-equipped to offer great insights.

That's what it is to be aware of one's limitations.
Yup, pretty much. Thank you for just agreeing.
 

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Phil Gordon said:
Hard to overstate the damage to US-Israel relations done by the sense of entitlement and ingratitude reflected in comments like these and Netanyahu's own recent statements. Baseless misdirection to suggest that Israeli soldiers' deaths in Gaza were caused by some phantom US "embargo" (when in fact Biden resisted enormous pressure to condition aid, as required by U.S. law, even as Israel rebuffed calls to facilitate more humanitarian assistance and reduce civilian casualties), and insulting to suggest that U.S. concern for people of Gaza was driven by "Michigan," as if no other possible basis for concern comes to mind. If goal of Netanyahu and his partisans is to accelerate the sharp decline in U.S. public support for Israel, and to further undermine the bipartisan character of that support, this seems like good way to go about it.
Ingratitude, the crime of all crimes.
 
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This is not new, but widely established media reporting on it is kind of new.

Minor quibble, but I don't think that thermobaric weapons are prohibited. Murdering civilians is prohibited, and those weapons are good at that, but the IDF has been murdering people with bullets as well. Possibly prohibitions on using them in areas where there are civilians, but that's much the same.
 

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Minor quibble, but I don't think that thermobaric weapons are prohibited. Murdering civilians is prohibited, and those weapons are good at that, but the IDF has been murdering people with bullets as well. Possibly prohibitions on using them in areas where there are civilians, but that's much the same.
They arguably count as incendiary weapons, which would make them subject to Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons, Article 2 Section 2 of which states: "It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by air-delivered incendiary weapons."

So this would make it explicitly unacceptable to use in Gaza even if someone argues that there is a tunnel somewhere in the vicinity.
 
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israel, once again, seems to be engaging in the public relations strategy of resembling an antisemitic trope.

 
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