Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

[Silvanus]

‘No rules’: Gaza’s doctors say they were tortured, beaten and humiliated in Israeli detention

Healthcare workers are protected under international law yet hundreds were detained during the war. Now, some of Gaza’s most senior doctors have spoken of the violence and abuse they say they faced

www.theguardian.com

Gazan doctors provide testimony of torture they experienced in Israel's prisons.

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I mean, I don't blame Oklahoma for the Trail of Tears. Do you blame them for taking the refugees they've already taken?

Well that specifically would be weird as Oklahoma wasn't a state when the trail of tears happened. But for the spirit of your question, if Oklahoma had offered to take all forcibly displaced people with no limit, allowing for the ethnic cleansing of the native Americans, I would blame them. When we talk about Egypt and Jordan, they take very limited scopes of people. Jordan for example have taken a couple thousand sick children, but they took a specific number of a specific class of person for obvious humanitarian reasons alone.

 

[Silvanus]

Well that specifically would be weird as Oklahoma wasn't a state when the trail of tears happened. But for the spirit of your question, if Oklahoma had offered to take all forcibly displaced people with no limit, allowing for the ethnic cleansing of the native Americans, I would blame them. When we talk about Egypt and Jordan, they take very limited scopes of people. Jordan for example have taken a couple thousand sick children, but they took a specific number of a specific class of person for obvious humanitarian reasons alone.

There's an interesting question here that I don't think this answer got to the bottom of.

Do you believe that countries have a moral obligation to refuse or strictly limit refugees? That refugees should essentially be forced to remain in their home country, even if it's an active danger zone, because allowing them to leave may assist the perpetrator?

 

[crimson5pheonix]

There's an interesting question here that I don't think this answer got to the bottom of.

Do you believe that countries have a moral obligation to refuse or strictly limit refugees? That refugees should essentially be forced to remain in their home country, even if it's an active danger zone, because allowing them to leave may assist the perpetrator?

Of a broad movement, yes. It's pretty case by case. The Biden/Trump corridor would be assisting in ethnic cleansing because the people setting it up are trying to cleanse the area. But contrasting Syria during it's civil war, for example, most refugees were simply in the crossfire, and if it were say the UN setting up a corridor, a broadly 3rd party faction that might reasonably try to return people post conflict, no.

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

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[tippy2k2]

I'm guessing people have seen this but in case you haven't...

Trump Is Coming After Legal Residents. Are Citizens Next?

Green card holder arrested; 25 million living in U.S. now subject to deportation

www.kenklippenstein.com

The United States government has fucking DISAPPEARED a legal green card holder for the crime of being outspoken against Israel. At least as of now, no one will say where he is and the guy's lawyer has no idea where his client is. They just came into his student housing and snatched his ass into an unmarked van and drove off into the night...

 

[Gergar12]

Yeah, I am going to stay away from protests. It may not be the best idea to get near them.

 

[Silvanus]

At least as of now, no one will say where he is and the guy's lawyer has no idea where his client is.

There's been update on this; he's held at La Salle in Louisiana.

La Salle was one of 9 Louisiana detention facilities that were exposed as sites of physical & sexual abuse, denial of medicine, & terrible hygiene and nutrition standards last year.