"Console gaming is better because it just works"... still a valid argument?

Sharkie668

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Lonely Swordsman said:
The three consoles are completely inferior in hardware to PC's built within the last two years.
Isn't that a bit unfair on the consoles because they were all released several years ago so obviously they're going to be inferior to the current hardware built for PCs today, yet they can still play games being developed today at fairly equal standards to PC games graphically and gameplay-wise as I haven't heard of any parts of a game cut from a console version of it simply because it was on a console and not a pc.
 

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If you don't want the BEST graphics all you really need is a decent video card and a big enough power supply. Any Dual Core Intel Processor with PCI-E slot in your motherboard will do. Then you get an NVidea 8800GT (Less than $100) and a power supply to fit the computer and then some and you can even run crysis smoothly.

So any old monitor $100
Decent computer $500 (Maybe even the one your using now)
Video Card and Power Supply $200
Laser Mouse and Keyboard $70

So lets say that with taxes somwhere around $1000 CAD and with only minor upgrades it can last quite a while. And PC games are also cheaper than console games so that ofsets the cost alittle too.
 

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David Bray said:
Console: No installs,
PS3 has to install a fair sized chunk of the game before you can play.

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immediate updates,
Steam has immediate updates and patches for other games take no longer to install than they would on consoles.

David Bray said:
controller,
Lots of PC games have controller support.

David Bray said:
always works,
My 360 red ringed after less than six months of reasonably light usage and my PS3 has frozen numerous times. So consoles don't always work.

David Bray said:
drop in-drop out without concerns,
Not quite sure what you are dropping in and out of so will have to let this one go.

David Bray said:
i can use my computer at the same time and multi-task.
PC users can run multiple tasks at the same time and can -usually- Alt-Tab between them. For example I am currently posting this reply, listening to music, talking to friends on ventrilo and downloading an update for TF2. Only using less than 10% of my CPU as well.

I now realise that I have been ninja'd but I'm going to post anyway.

By the way, for all you console users that complain about your PC not being able to handle new games: That's because YOUR PC isn't upto date enough to play those games. Similar to how you can't play Halo 3 on an original Xbox.
 

mattman106

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ninjapenguin981 said:
Well that's never been my argument against PC gaming. My argument (and this is only because I can't afford it, if I could I'd be a PC gamer) is that the PC required for modern day games costs a lot. For me it's just not an option, and I expect for many students/people who don't earn that much/spend that much on a PC it is the same. £1000-£2000 is a lot of money.
You're right £1000-2000 is a lot of money which is why you can build a good pc for £500-600m :/
 

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Plurralbles said:
just like the mac can't say that("It justworks")... consoles can't either anymore. Soon I hope they get rid of the idea of consoles so then there won't be any platform wars as there will be only one effective one- THe PC. Maybe Apple would make its own Dev department and we'd have it that way instead of the 360 V PS3 nonsense.

Games were made on computers, they should be played on them instead of ones tha tspecialize cuz'... what's the point? I dont' see it.

Just market different controls.
Because not everyone can afford a desktop or laptop and shell out the money to maintain it and the software that keeps viruses and spyware off the machine.
Consoles are far more portable and require very little maintenance, and a cheaper buy if you just want to play games and maybe don't have or can't afford the internet.

Even if they switched all gaming to computers, which I hope they don't, you would still have wars. They'd be brand and machine wars, which is just a different incarnation of the console wars.
 

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GBlair88 said:
David Bray said:
By the way, for all you console users that complain about your PC not being able to handle new games: That's because YOUR PC isn't upto date enough to play those games. Similar to how you can't play Halo 3 on an original Xbox.
You're right of course. The amount of people i have spoken to who say Oblivion wont work on their 2002 PC is ridiculous. However, the key thing with consoles is we dont have to.
While we sacrifice some of the big advances and the truly next gen stuff, we gain consistancy.

And i have been red-ringed and still believe Xbox is better. FOR ME.
 

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Zing said:
Who gives a shit? Play whatever you have and like whatever you want. Why care what others are doing?
Because people are insecure and afraid they bought the wrong system, and by threads such as these they are trying to justify their decision. That's why.

Now let's never get mad at each other again.
 

GBlair88

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crypt-creature said:
Because not everyone can afford a desktop or laptop and shell out the money to maintain it and the software that keeps viruses and spyware off the machine.
Consoles are far more portable
Are you trying to say a console is far more portable than a laptop? Because if you are, I would like you to have a good long think about that statement. If not then fine carry on.
 

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mattman106 said:
ninjapenguin981 said:
Well that's never been my argument against PC gaming. My argument (and this is only because I can't afford it, if I could I'd be a PC gamer) is that the PC required for modern day games costs a lot. For me it's just not an option, and I expect for many students/people who don't earn that much/spend that much on a PC it is the same. £1000-£2000 is a lot of money.
You're right £1000-2000 is a lot of money which is why you can build a good pc for £500-600m :/
But even that is expensive, plus I don't know how to build PCs :/
 

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ninjapenguin981 said:
But even that is expensive, plus I don't know how to build PCs :/
It's far easier to build a PC than people realize. Once you lock the motherboard into the case (simple enough, just a few screws) and put in the power supply, it really becomes "Insert object A into slot B." And as far as power cables go, all of them are labeled and all of them only fit one-way. It's not a complex process.
 

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ninjapenguin981 said:
mattman106 said:
ninjapenguin981 said:
Well that's never been my argument against PC gaming. My argument (and this is only because I can't afford it, if I could I'd be a PC gamer) is that the PC required for modern day games costs a lot. For me it's just not an option, and I expect for many students/people who don't earn that much/spend that much on a PC it is the same. £1000-£2000 is a lot of money.
You're right £1000-2000 is a lot of money which is why you can build a good pc for £500-600m :/
But even that is expensive, plus I don't know how to build PCs :/
I can accept that you may not know how to build a PC (it really isn't that hard though), but you must remember that for £500 you aren't just getting a gaming machine as you would be getting with a console, you are getting something you can work on, surf the web on etc; plus the fact that PC games are much cheaper offsets a large portion of the cost diffence between consoles and PCs.
 

mattman106

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JeanLuc761 said:
ninjapenguin981 said:
But even that is expensive, plus I don't know how to build PCs :/
It's far easier to build a PC than people realize. Once you lock the motherboard into the case (simple enough, just a few screws) and put in the power supply, it really becomes "Insert object A into slot B." And as far as power cables go, all of them are labeled and all of them only fit one-way. It's not a complex process.
Exactly, if you have the skills to hook a console/ DVD player up to a hometheatre system you have the ability to build a PC.
 

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Hubilub said:
I don't think it's really valid.

It all comes down to if you like to have a controller in hand or a keyboard
That's quite true. Also, generally, consoles are more powerful systems, but there are gaming PCs that have download times of mere seconds. (usually custom made)
 

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Zing said:
Who gives a shit? Play whatever you have and like whatever you want. Why care what others are doing?
Couldn't have said it any better ¬_¬
 

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GBlair88 said:
Are you trying to say a console is far more portable than a laptop? Because if you are, I would like you to have a good long think about that statement. If not then fine carry on.
In general laptops are very portable, with few exceptions. They do come with their own little quirks, but consoles do as well.
I was referring more to desktop units, which most people seem to prefer over laptops when it comes to gaming.
 

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I don't think it was ever a valid argument.

My favorite part about being a PC gamer? I don't need/want/have disks for my games. If the game's not available for digital download, I install and crack it. Viola! One install and I NEVER need the disks again!
The shelf space that my PS3 games takes up depresses me (not only because they sit right next to the Thermo textbook). They also have a tendency to collect dust during the exam periods, giving me more cleaning jobs to do. Hooray for terabyte hard drives and complete installations :D Now I can have my games, music, movies, and porn all in one neat little box.
 

Saul B

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I prefer consoles because I only have a laptop which couldn't run an emulator. And I'm not spending ~£1000 on a decent gaming PC so I can use a mouse and keyboard setup and mod my games. I'm just not that rich.