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Dear Escapist members who are skeptical about motion controls:
Dance games are fun. Dance Central is some of the most fun I've had with my non-gaming wife and sister in years.
Why are you so critical of a $130 peripheral that could essentially be used only for the games you deem acceptable as motion controlled (driving sim, sword fighting, rail shooters, dance games, etc), and yet you profess your undying love for something like Guitar Hero or Rock Band. Wasn't Rock Band just a $200 motion controller peripheral for pretending to be in a band? Why can't the Kinect and Move fill a similar niche?
I think that the gaming market has vastly expanded in the past decade, and like the hipster who whines about their favorite band becoming popular old school gamers are whining that their hobby is no longer as exclusive. Great AAA titles are still being made every year (Arkham Asylum, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, Alan Wake, etc) alongside the silly motion games like Dance Central or a Move capable Killzone 3.
Not only that, but the indie market has never been more accessible and available than it is right now. Thanks to digital distribution people who would never have even considered playing indie games are pouring money into titles like Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Emberwind, Shank, and Limbo.
You are all taking on an overly negative view of gaming because you don't like the fact that its become mainstream, and our formerly exclusive-to-nerds hobby has become marketable.
I say bring on the casual gamers and the teeming masses, stop looking at the past with nostalgia tinted glasses, and realize that gaming now is at the best that its ever been. I feel privileged to be a part of the industry as it is today.
Dance games are fun. Dance Central is some of the most fun I've had with my non-gaming wife and sister in years.
Why are you so critical of a $130 peripheral that could essentially be used only for the games you deem acceptable as motion controlled (driving sim, sword fighting, rail shooters, dance games, etc), and yet you profess your undying love for something like Guitar Hero or Rock Band. Wasn't Rock Band just a $200 motion controller peripheral for pretending to be in a band? Why can't the Kinect and Move fill a similar niche?
I think that the gaming market has vastly expanded in the past decade, and like the hipster who whines about their favorite band becoming popular old school gamers are whining that their hobby is no longer as exclusive. Great AAA titles are still being made every year (Arkham Asylum, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, Alan Wake, etc) alongside the silly motion games like Dance Central or a Move capable Killzone 3.
Not only that, but the indie market has never been more accessible and available than it is right now. Thanks to digital distribution people who would never have even considered playing indie games are pouring money into titles like Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Emberwind, Shank, and Limbo.
You are all taking on an overly negative view of gaming because you don't like the fact that its become mainstream, and our formerly exclusive-to-nerds hobby has become marketable.
I say bring on the casual gamers and the teeming masses, stop looking at the past with nostalgia tinted glasses, and realize that gaming now is at the best that its ever been. I feel privileged to be a part of the industry as it is today.
I agree 100% with Yahtzee about motion/gesture controls.... IMO they are a STEP-down for gamers in general... I mean just look at all the games that have been produced with them? Those games can't compare at all to games that were made with traditional controls. Would I be able to ever play a game like HL2/TF2/RTS/MMO on a motion/gesture control.. no way in hell.
I will agree that motion/gesture controls are a STEP-up for casual/non-gamers. Pretty much gamers who have no clue what a good game really is and only play in social settings with other non-gamers.
The only thing I don't agree with Yahtzee on is the Star Trek Holodeck..... I would love to have that.
I will agree that motion/gesture controls are a STEP-up for casual/non-gamers. Pretty much gamers who have no clue what a good game really is and only play in social settings with other non-gamers.
The only thing I don't agree with Yahtzee on is the Star Trek Holodeck..... I would love to have that.
This...might be the most brilliant idea you guys have ever had.
Though like what the others have said, this really would be much better in video format, and if cast members were alternated between different contributors of the Escapist.
It's perfectly fine if it stays in this way though. It's good enough to have Bob, Yahtzee and James conversing over something. Maybe they just need a more controversial topic.
Though like what the others have said, this really would be much better in video format, and if cast members were alternated between different contributors of the Escapist.
It's perfectly fine if it stays in this way though. It's good enough to have Bob, Yahtzee and James conversing over something. Maybe they just need a more controversial topic.
Cracking read, I really hope this becomes a permanent article.
I'm not sure I agree with James re the active participation deal - if I want to play football I'll go and play football. The reason I'm playing FIFA is because I do not want to/am not able to play football. I find myself agreeing most with Yahtzee along the basis of less thought = more immersion, but (as much as I dislike motion controls) I find myself hoping Bob is right with the 'rifle-butt smash' control allocation, that would make FPS games far more satisfying (espescially when irritating gob-shites are screaming down the mic). I might even buy into motion controls just for the ability to do that.
I'm not sure I agree with James re the active participation deal - if I want to play football I'll go and play football. The reason I'm playing FIFA is because I do not want to/am not able to play football. I find myself agreeing most with Yahtzee along the basis of less thought = more immersion, but (as much as I dislike motion controls) I find myself hoping Bob is right with the 'rifle-butt smash' control allocation, that would make FPS games far more satisfying (espescially when irritating gob-shites are screaming down the mic). I might even buy into motion controls just for the ability to do that.
good call, i'd love to see something like that too. there's alot of knowledge in that room and answering reader's questions would be great!Tactical Fugitive said:
Just amazing. This website already had so many insightful and awesome things, and now the best of it is in one place. Bravo Escapist.
Now if we can weaponize these three and fire them into the heart of the gaming industry, all the things they've been screaming for years might actually happen.
Now if we can weaponize these three and fire them into the heart of the gaming industry, all the things they've been screaming for years might actually happen.
Best new concept for a (hopefully) weekly/fortnightly piece in a long time.
Torn between the sides of for and against.
1. Actually doing things ala hollow-deck would be amazing.
2. I agree that the immersion is often hampered by the motion in most current titles (thus we need some fresh thought in the motion department IP development. Immersion has to be possible imo)
3.Games are for fun. Not always immersion. I have, albeit few times, had as much or more fun with some Wii Sports than I have with some objectively superior triple A title. So I'm all for motion in moderation.
Torn between the sides of for and against.
1. Actually doing things ala hollow-deck would be amazing.
2. I agree that the immersion is often hampered by the motion in most current titles (thus we need some fresh thought in the motion department IP development. Immersion has to be possible imo)
3.Games are for fun. Not always immersion. I have, albeit few times, had as much or more fun with some Wii Sports than I have with some objectively superior triple A title. So I'm all for motion in moderation.