Consoles Are a "Massive Barrier" for Crysis 3 Development
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My grandfather is a very good carpenter and he'd complain about being given hopelessly indaquete tools. It isn't a case of blaming the hardware, the hardware is out dated by nearly a decade now and it must be very difficulty to smush down high end focused PC games onto consoles.bafrali said:
This is why I'm getting my new rig :3
Also fuck installs and updates onc onsoles, and overpriced digital distribution. No more says I.
Shit even then man plenty of places will build it for you for fuck all. I'm buying one built from Scan for around £1300, know how much I'm paying them total for build, delivery and onsite wrranty? £80. Because I feel lazy.Dr. McD said:
I've given up on consoles now, all the same problems as a PC with none of the benefits.
It's difficult to get solid numbers for PC sales as the likes of VGchartz don't count digital sales at all, as far as I'm aware.Marik Bentusi said:
For example, Valve claimed that Portal 2 sold better on PC than on console. VGChartz lists the total PC sales for the game as 0.61 mil and the Xbox 360 sales as 1.55 mil.
Most of the PC gamers I know primarily buy games from Steam.
Still, it's probably fair to say that console games do outsell their PC versions. More people own consoles than gaming PCs, after all.
A company that wants to make money by tapping into the vastly larger group of gamers that don't have super high end hardware and make more money? Yep, must be greed. Why do companies even want to make a profit, they should all be non-profit or operate in the red!ResonanceSD said:
It's a company, it's goal is to make money and expand and this huge untapped demographic is an easy way to do that. Aside from not being exclusive to super high end stuff and upsetting some people who think they are going to replace their engine rather then having two versions I don't see how this upsets anyone.
Your post might actually be valid if Crysis didn't clearly outsell Crysis 2.Twilight_guy said:
So yes, in fact, they should have stuck to their guns of "only people with kickass computers can run this" because they would have made more money.
LOL. I think it's kind of like this b/c it's pretty much Crytec VS everyoneWaitWHAT said:We're 3 pages in, and no console war? It's....it's....
PC gamers are shouting 'this is what you get for being sell outs'
and console gamers are shouting 'stop whining about our hardware'
I'd rather they use them resources to make a game that is more fun/ has a better story. As long as they do that, and FPS is at a solid 60 throughout, I don't care if the game looks like it was made using the same engine as a CoD game.
At the moment it's more like PC elitists releasing their anger. There are some civil comments in there, but for the most part, yeah...sammysoso said:
He can however blame his materials. You can't make a chair out of rotted wood, well you can but it creaks, smells and will collapse soon.el_kabong said:
Sometimes it boils down between attempt to gain more profit or attempt to make it to the history books. Cash versus vision and if the vision can be that big, sometimes certain plans to garner demographics have to be removed or postponed.Twilight_guy said:
Based on what a lot of gamers are saying, Crytek ultimately failed with it's 2nd outing of a certain game (not to mention apparently selling less too despite being in 2 other outlets).
Well this "carpenter" isn't making the game with a console now is he? He's making it on a PC for a console. It be more like a carpenter making a really bad ass piece of furniture, but then it not fitting in your room.el_kabong said:
OT: Crytek is stupid. Like many have already said, then made the decision to go multiplatform for teh moenyzzz. If they really cared about making the best possible experience ever, they would have stayed solely on PC. However, a company has to make business decisions, and so going multiplatform probably brought them more cash. But when you make the decision to go multiplatfrom, you can't complain about the associated limitations. Regardless, I don't like Crysis that much although I kinda want to get the first one to test my rig.
They could've waited for the next console gen before giving it a console release. They would've made their PC money in the meantime, and then had the tasty influx of money from being a release game for the new generation.
That seems sensible to me, but ehh, EA are very focussed on grabbing as much money as possible in the short term, rather than considering the long term.
That seems sensible to me, but ehh, EA are very focussed on grabbing as much money as possible in the short term, rather than considering the long term.
Do we still like Crytek anymore? I just need to know so I can say this is a great point in why we need a new generation of consoles or if I should be blaming them for not being good at making games.
With all parody of the immature nature of hating individual studios and developers for little to no adequate reason aside, its true that we need new consoles because current ones are holding us back. The tech is 7 years old now and that is a long time now. Look at a 7 year old desktop and compare it to a new one. They are terrible by comparison. Hell, look at a PS2 compared to a PS3! This whole idea of having consoles for 10 years is ridiculous, we need them and we need them soon. It isn't even just about graphics, these processing power is so weak now that it is essential that we upgrade soon if we hope to see our games get better mechanically.
With all parody of the immature nature of hating individual studios and developers for little to no adequate reason aside, its true that we need new consoles because current ones are holding us back. The tech is 7 years old now and that is a long time now. Look at a 7 year old desktop and compare it to a new one. They are terrible by comparison. Hell, look at a PS2 compared to a PS3! This whole idea of having consoles for 10 years is ridiculous, we need them and we need them soon. It isn't even just about graphics, these processing power is so weak now that it is essential that we upgrade soon if we hope to see our games get better mechanically.
This. If they want to target the larger market of the console generation that has dragged on for seven years, they should expect to burn money and lowering visual quality on a game that prides itself on such.GoaThief said:Cry me a river.Encaen said:
Abandoning PC as the lead (or only) platform and switching to consoles... you only have yourselves to blame. Yes, you're right the hardware is holding you back but this is a given and you wanted to go for the money. Put up with it and be quiet, really.
Personally I'd wait until the third one comes out, see if it actually does better than the first at stressing your rig, and if not move to something like TW2 or BF3.clippen05 said:
Any real mid range computer these days can max out Crysis 1 with around 60FPS at 1080p, so its not that great at seeing if your rig is amazing just because it can run it. If you're going to try and get some high benchmarks with Crysis, as opposed to just running it, then disregard everything I said because that still works as a relative comparison of your rig's power in certain areas compared to other peoples.