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JagermanXcell

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torno said:
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Well... I believe in most cryptids.

Not Nessie, that one just seems a little inconsistent.

But Bigfoot I buy. As someone who's lived in Oregon my whole life, I can tell you that those forests are fucking BIIIIG, and I totally buy that something could hide out there.

Also the Yeti, and Mokele Mbembe.

Chupacabra's bullshit, though.
I don't know if I'd call that a conspiracy theory, but maybe I'm wrong.
Mothman is a personal favorite of mine, by the way.
Real? Not real?
I don't know, never seen him myself (or of any other cryptid for that matter) but I'm open to the possibility.
Anyway.

Skip to 1:00. If JonTron is scared of Mothman, he has to be real.

OT: Ones I do believe in are more supernatural then political, also cause I hate politics.

Aliens, BigFoot, and recently Mermaids.
I don't exactly remember but there was a recent program that got footage of people in a submarine trying to find Mermaids.
During they got its attention with strange whale like noises they recorded to see if they can attract one.
It got quiet, an *BOOM* creepy webbed hand appearing on the side window. Oh yeah, then the government came in and tried to disprove the evidence.
I'm sorry but that sounds too real. :D

Edit: Found the recent mermaid vid, turns out it was taken near Greenland.
Chills. Everywhere.
 

TheDoctor455

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I don't think I've ever heard a single conspiracy theory and thought it was true. I find them stupid at best, and outright offensive at worst.

Or I could be a pedantic ass and refer to the actual criminal definition of a conspiracy, a plan by two or more people to do something unlawful in the future, and say I believe in something that actually happened, like the Gunpowder Plot or something. But then I'm totally not a pedantic ass :p
Oh trust me. When it comes to conspiracy theorists, you are FULLY justified in being an asshole to them. They really, really do deserve it.

Like this guy:

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/

Who claims that THE MOON is a hoax.
 

Westaway

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Jews are over represented in business. I am not saying that they run the United States, or that they are all zionists. I am only saying that Jewish people stick together, and their large representation in lofty positions in the USA governement is more than likely a factor in why the USA defends Israel so strongly. There are also other factors, such as right wing Christians and Jerusalem. I repeat, I am not antisemetic.

I also thoroughly believe that the United States Knew about Pearl Harbor and allowed it to happen.

Although the USA probably did not commit 9/11 themselves, I would not be surprised if they knew about the attack before hand but did nothing as an excuse to further their geopolitical agendas and create a huge fear of terrorism in the public.
 

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BrassButtons said:
Westaway said:
I also thoroughly believe that the United States Knew about Pearl Harbor and allowed it to happen.
And you think they did this because...?
I'm going to reply again tomorrow if I remember. It's late now and I was about to go to bed. I'll sum it up, though.

After WWI the American public had no stomach for war. The United States governement wanted to join the war for several reasons. They intercepted a Japanese radio transmission with information of the attack. If the United States were attacked, without warning, they woud appear like victims and the people would rally to fight their attackers.
Proof would be that there were no air craft carriers at Pearl Harbor during the attack, the most precious naval asset. They got them out of there before the attack.
 

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lechat said:
moon landing.
can't say i'm fully convinced either way but i do think that america would have and could have faked it if necessary and considering the political climate if there was even a shadow of a doubt they would have been beaten by the soviets they would have done it
then why did the Russians go along with it, there are so many people who tracked it on radar, also how did the mirrors they put on the moon to measure the exact distance get there, also how did they create the dust puffs around there feet while they walked?
 

BrassButtons

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Westaway said:
After WWI the American public had no stomach for war. The United States governement wanted to join the war for several reasons.
The American public doesn't actually need to be on board with a war for Congress to declare it. And there are more ways--better ways--to sway public opinion than by allowing a portion of your military to be killed. Propaganda was not an unknown thing.

They intercepted a Japanese radio transmission with information of the attack.
When?

If the United States were attacked, without warning, they woud appear like victims and the people would rally to fight their attackers.
The same would also happen if the US were actually attacked without warning.

Proof would be that there were no air craft carriers at Pearl Harbor during the attack, the most precious naval asset. They got them out of there before the attack.
That's not "proof". That's "interpreting the evidence to fit the conclusion".
 

Lilani

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Mycroft Holmes said:
Well I don't agree with the general conspiracy of Obama wasn't born in America. But Obama's birth certificate was definitely doctored. The term African American is a more recent addition to our vernacular. If you compare his certificate to other state documents at the time as well as handbook guidelines on how to fill out state documentation the term used in Hawaii is "negroid."
Not that I'm trying to argue with you on this point, but what are the possibilities that the term had to do with his lineage? His father was, after all, African and his mother was American.
 

BNguyen

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I don't know, every time now that I think of the term "conspiracy theory" I think back on the Venture Brothers and a funny little quote:
"As soon as God crapped out the third caveman a conspiracy theory was hatched against one of them."
 

Godhead

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I am of the firm belief that there are aliens. They hop over the border every damn day, and people still don't think they exist.
 

Mycroft Holmes

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Lilani said:
Not that I'm trying to argue with you on this point, but what are the possibilities that the term had to do with his lineage? His father was, after all, African and his mother was American.
Nearly impossible.

There has been a long held racist belief in the US as well as other societies that a single drop of non-white blood automatically makes you Black, Hispanic, Asian, ect. You can see it even today with Obama the first 'black' president; who happens to be more white than he is any other race(Arabic and Black being the two others.) And that is in todays society where we consider ourselves to not be racist; it would have been much worse in the 1960s when racism was still very much accepted. So the likelihood of their admitting he had even an ounce of white heritage would be completely out of character for the time period. And neither 'African' nor 'American' were used as racial indicators on Hawaiian state documents from the 60s.

As for natural born US citizenship though, McCain's birth certificate is actually more suspect.
 

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Vegosiux said:
Uncategorized, I do feel inclined to agree that some powerful corporations might be holding patents on innovations simply so that nobody can threaten their market positions.
That's not a conspiracy theory. I've seen the patent whoring in the cell phone/tablet world first hand. Large companies (Apple, Panasonic, Google, etc) are desperate to patent everything they can as quickly as possible, and then they sit on the patents and do nothing with them except charge their competitors royalties to use them. It's fucking disgusting and a clear reason why patent law needs to be revamped, but they absolutely do it.
 

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Nothing I can think of off hand but it baffles me when I hear some of them, Lunar landing hoax? Just a few reads or juts watch one episode of Mythbusters (the moon one) and that'll kill a chunk of the 'evidence'. If that's not enough there has been images of the site taken from earth and there's mirrors there that we use to calibrate telescopes. So if you subscribe to that you're just blinding yourself.

JFK has also been debunked in almost every way but people keep bringing up things that have already been solved, his head went toward the direction the bullet was shot? Yes that's what happens when a bullet enters from one side and blows out the other, pressure shoots your head in the other way. Magic bullet? JFK was raised up so the bullet that hit him and the guy in front was 1 bullet, the missing bullet? They have a strong case it hit the traffic light.

I won't even dive into 9/11 there's so many things I hear that stun me on how stupid you'd have to be to believe such a thing. The only one I'll bring up is; the people on the plane that was taken down by the passengers, were all taken by the government and hidden away while the plane had no one in it and was remotely detonated or some such nonsense.
 

Jux

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Don't believe in any conspiracy theories, though one of the more interesting one's I heard about was the Dr. Mary's Monkey conspiracy theory. It has some ties to the JFK conspiracy theory too I think.
 

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Mycroft Holmes said:
MetalDooley said:
- How Oswald was rather conveniently killed himself before he could stand trial also by someone supposedly acting alone
Now you're completely making up facts. Oswald didn't kill himself.
Read what he wrote again.

OT: Not really, I think that believing in things without irrefutable evidence is just dumb.
 

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Im inclined to believe the US might have had more then a big part in the Syrian uprisings and that Gaddafi was a much more popular leader in his country then we've been led to believe in the west.
In particular he is made out to be an eccentric cook so was rather easy to hate him, yet when you see him in african leaders summit the guy actually had some very brave and bold ideas. Heck the guy even predicted to an extent the arab spring revolt long before it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGwHOWUPKuo

Hardcore mode: im even inclined to believe reason he "had to go" was to do with the guys dream of making a new currency in africa based on gold (which the usa lacks) that would have been a massive threat to usa economical interests.

Source: some of my syrian friends observations and statements aswell as vids they linked to me that has caused me to somewhat doubt the story we've been sold in the west.
 

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Not as neat or as scary as the posts here, but for me there's a theory among a lot of the NBA fans that the game is rigged, mainly by having things like referees + other officials do some rather shady things to make sure the league earns the most money.

Personally I wish I can say for certain that it's 100% baloney, but every now and again the league will do some extremely questionable things that'll make me wonder.....
 

DanDanikov

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Conspiracy theories are a natural result of general skepticism, general ignorance and mass hysteria.

It's natural to doubt, we may be a pretty gullible species at times, but at least some of the time we have a bullshit filter trying to flag stuff up.

The problem is that, on top of that, we're also generally pretty stupid- we don't know much about most things but we like to pretend we do. I have no way to know what happens when something like a plane hits a building, I can't really give an informed opinion on that. So, sometimes our intuition will be plain wrong and we'll get false positives.

Add to that confirmation bias and charismatic people presenting their bad intuitions as 'fact' with hand-picked evidence that supports their point of view, you end up with a vicious cycle of hysteria over something that has no real basis, only a self-sustaining presupposed conclusion.

The problem with most conspiracy theories, in my mind, is usually intent- 'Don't attribute to malice what you can to stupidity'. Big organisations are stupid and slow. They can't do anything that well and it always takes a while to do them. Sometimes they will try to do malicious, cunning and evil things, but anything like that on a big scale there's a large potential for getting found out or slipping up. The more people involved, the more likely it's bull that they pulled off such a wide-reaching conspiracy and nobody said anything about it. Whistle-blowing seems to be cool these days, so you can bet your front teeth that if people could come forward about such things, they would be by now.