Corporal punishment

[darkless]

Just for schools this should be brought back.

For perspective i would ask you to excuse my bad grammar i will fix it when i sober up, i just got in from a wedding.

Anyway my point is that kids these day's are violent simply because they dont know the pain of being hit, if parent's where aloud hit there kids even just once i believe that the children of today would be more civilized. Thy would be less likely to strike out at someone because they know how it feels.

What do you think?

EDIT: Crap that should be corporal punishment, not capital punishment.

 

[black lincon]

what when did it go away? Oh wait I'm from the US thats right. I wasn't aware they didn't have it in Italy, I guess I learn something new every day.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

I think you mean corporal punishment...

 

[darkless]

I think you mean corporal punishment...

What he said, I meant corporal punishment I'm sorry for the title i'll change when i figure out how.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Yeah, I'd edit the topic title mate, but I think a small amount of controlled smacking is ok.

We need to keep tabs on parent's who beat their kids out of anger and frustration, not criminalise every parent who's ever given a kid a gentle swat.

As Dylan Moran said about the UK ruling:

'I now hear you can't even ..physically educate your own child now? How rubbish is that? I used to skip home from work, looking forward to smacking my kids for no reason at all!'

Ok, maybe not the best supporting quote for my stance, but I like him anyways.

Oh also, I got spanked and it never did me any *TWITCH* harm.

That's got that tired old line out of the way early in this thread.

 

[Ken Korda]

I have always opposed the torture is children to force them to behave

 

[darkless]

Yeah, I'd edit the topic title mate, but I think a small amount of controlled smacking is ok.

We need to keep tabs on parent's who beat their kids out of anger and frustration, not criminalise every parent who's ever given a kid a gentle swat.

As Dylan Moran said about the UK ruling:

'I now hear you can't even ..physically educate your own child now? How rubbish is that? I used to skip home from work, looking forward to smacking my kids for no reason at all!'

Ok, maybe not the best supporting quote for my stance, but I like him anyways.

Oh also, I got spanked and it never did me any *TWITCH* harm.

That's got that tired old line out of the way early in this thread.

Changed it, sorry about that.

I know what you mean parents who beat there kids for no reason need to be watched.

But the fact is hitting a kid once or twice teaches it a valuable lesson in behavior, the child doesn't like being hit it is less likely yo be violent when it grows up.

I wasn't spanked as a child but i was always warned one more wrong msitake i would be and i stopped misbehaving i didn't want to be hit.

 

[Trivun]

I think you mean corporal punishment...

What he said, I meant corporal punishment I'm sorry for the title i'll change when i figure out how.

Just do the same as if you were editing the post, the title will be right there for you to change where it was when you first posted, if that makes sense.

I'm fairly certain you meant "corporal" punishment. Capital punishment is execution, I believe. As for corporal punishment, I don't know. My parents used to spank me when I misbehaved badly. They always threatened first with taking away television privileges, but if I persisted or simply did something inexcusable, it was physical right off.

As a result, I very rarely misbehaved badly as a child. Honestly, spanking and such are necessary for keeping young children in line. Otherwise, you are left to purely psychological threats, which are much less immediate and obvious to children.

Damn, Ninja'd. Basically, this. I was treated the exact same way when I was a kid, and I feel that we've let the nanny state have control for too long. Fine, you shouldn't hit kids, but that should be restricted so that parents can hit their own children for purely disciplinary reasons. Plus, make it so that parents who do hit their kids don't use things like a punch or whatever, a good slap round the back of the head or on the thighs/arms is enough, that's what my parents did and by God it hurt... Usually I learned my lesson after that.

Just for the record, I also agree that we should bring back the cane. Children in schools aren't getting proper discipline either, and teachers are the adults who kids see the most of save for parents, so it is their responsibility as well to make sure the children grow up properly with a sense of right and wrong and don't end up as juvenile delingquents hanging around city centres smoking weed and looking threatening (fine, a stereotype, but the point is still valid overall). As another record, I'm referring to the UK in this post, since that's where I'm from, so I know our own policies much better than those of Ireland or the USA.

 

[Pimppeter2]

I agree, as long is its not actually all out brawling.

Smacking your child because he called you a ***** is punishable by smacking

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I think I was smacked about 3 times in my childhood, but I was warned I was gonna get one a LOT more times, proving that the fear of a smack was far more effective than the smack, but then the smack probably has to show up at least once to make the threat effective.

 

[darkless]

I think you mean corporal punishment...

What he said, I meant corporal punishment I'm sorry for the title i'll change when i figure out how.

Just do the same as if you were editing the post, the title will be right there for you to change where it was when you first posted, if that makes sense.

I'm fairly certain you meant "corporal" punishment. Capital punishment is execution, I believe. As for corporal punishment, I don't know. My parents used to spank me when I misbehaved badly. They always threatened first with taking away television privileges, but if I persisted or simply did something inexcusable, it was physical right off.

As a result, I very rarely misbehaved badly as a child. Honestly, spanking and such are necessary for keeping young children in line. Otherwise, you are left to purely psychological threats, which are much less immediate and obvious to children.

Damn, Ninja'd. Basically, this. I was treated the exact same way when I was a kid, and I feel that we've let the nanny state have control for too long. Fine, you shouldn't hit kids, but that should be restricted so that parents can hit their own children for purely disciplinary reasons. Plus, make it so that parents who do hit their kids don't use things like a punch or whatever, a good slap round the back of the head or on the thighs/arms is enough, that's what my parents did and by God it hurt... Usually I learned my lesson after that.

Just for the record, I also agree that we should bring back the cane. Children in schools aren't getting proper discipline either, and teachers are the adults who kids see the most of save for parents, so it is their responsibility as well to make sure the children grow up properly with a sense of right and wrong and don't end up as juvenile delingquents hanging around city centres smoking weed and looking threatening (fine, a stereotype, but the point is still valid overall). As another record, I'm referring to the UK in this post, since that's where I'm from, so I know our own policies much better than those of Ireland or the USA.

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yes thank you it has gotten to a point where kids have more rights than adults do and it really isnt fair the right to punish one's children physically was necessary it teaches children more than one lesson.

I'm a cub leader the kids i watch are animals but i cant touch them because it's against the law and god help me if i put these kids in there place the parents think there angels and god forbid someone disagrees with them most of the kids just need a good smack and they will stop.

 

[Dr. UBAR]

It NEEDS to be allowed, look at the current generation of kids, most of them are fuckwits. When I was a litttle **** my dad hit me with an ivory cane. Only happened twice mind you. I learnt my lesson. Corporal punishment in schools would also help, just the other day a fight broke out in the classroom and the teacher could only yell at them to stop; there not allowed to touch.

 

[Gamine]

Almost all the Kids in the UK these days are spoilt . .ew, where i come from, a good smacking is good now and then,

Corporal Punishment in schools..yeh sure as long as it is to teach a lesson, not an avenue for a sadist to whip the living daylights out of my kids

 

[darkless]

It NEEDS to be allowed, look at the current generation of kids, most of them are fuckwits. When I was a litttle **** my dad hit me with an ivory cane. Only happened twice mind you. I learn't my lesson. Corporal punishment in schools would also help, just the other day a fight broke out in the classroom and the teacher could only yell at them to stop; there not allowed to touch.

I know when i was bad my mam gt out the wooden spoon she never hit me with it but i was cautious enough to not tempt her. And teachers need to be able to punish students teachers get an unholy amount of abuse and there's not a thing they can do about it.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Of course, if your response to being called a ***** by your kid is to yell 'Why, you little fucking shit!' as you take a swing at him or her, you might want to analyse why he acts and talks that way.

Just my opinion from research, and by research I mean being on buses and in stores with parents of kids. Was the law 'no smacking of children unless you have an audience?' Is that why parents take their kids to supermarkets to beat em?

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Hell, I'd give each student a collar that sent a nice big shock thru it when the teacher decided they are misbehaving, or not paying attention, or if the teacher is just bored.

But then I've had to share a bus with about 200 schoolchildren before. (ok, it was when I was at school, but most of em were fuckers then too.)

 

[Deadman Walkin]

Just for schools this should be brought back.

For perspective i would ask you to excuse my bad grammar i will fix it when i sober up, i just got in from a wedding.

Anyway my point is that kids these day's are violent simply because they dont know the pain of being hit, if parent's where aloud hit there kids even just once i believe that the children of today would be more civilized. Thy would be less likely to strike out at someone because they know how it feels.

What do you think?

EDIT: Crap that should be corporal punishment, not capital punishment.

I believe you are right. My sister went about doing whatever she pleased (including swearing, running off and crying when she "couldn't go out at 12:00 at night on a school night.) There are too many kids like that who have no respect, and I am surrounded by them every single day. I think kids need to be punished so they don't run off free lance like that.

 

[Frizzle]

Now, I don't have kids, but am I to understand that you're not allowed to beat your own kids for acting up? Or is this just in reference to school?

As for what I take from the OP, I think giving corporal punishment authority to teachers is touchy. On one hand, I want someone to continue the discipline I've instilled in my own demon spawn. On the other, some of them are angry and vengefull and will end up beating kids for too little, or no reason at all.

If teachers were given something like that, there'd need to be a committee set up to regulate the amount of abuse teachers can give. That said, I really wish I was allowed to smack other peoples hell spawn in public when they won't do anything. Those kids drive me nuts.

 

[seidlet]

corporal punishment has been shown, repeatedly, to be all but completely useless. the best way to enforce civil behavior is to acknowledge children when they behave the way you'd like them to, and ignore them when they behave poorly.

 

[Jumplion]

Oh please, the fear of disappointing your parents and hearing the dreaded "I expected better from you" is much worse that Corporal Punishment.

On a serious note, it could go one of two or three ways;

1. The kid learns to not do stupid stuff and not get smacked
2. The kid ends up hating his parents and does even more stupid stuff.
or 3. The kid becomes a Masochist.

And eventually, the kid would grow out of being smacked on the behind. It's not an ideal solution to every kid's problems, but it VERY controlled amounts (you know, like not child abuse amounts) it can be effective I believe.