Yeah but DOA combines titties with raw violence, in other words pure testosterone.Kahunaburger said:
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I have a question.
This is for the ladies (not men who like men, because it's a different situation with you guys).
For the vast majority of heterosexual men, the less a woman wears, the sexier he might find her to be. A lot of heterosexual men feel this way, as which when women go 'why are women hypersexualized', men go '... there are a ton of dudes with their shirts off'.
Ok. So... how would you guys design a man to make him hypersexualized? I don't think a bouncing bulge would really do it, so what will?
This is for the ladies (not men who like men, because it's a different situation with you guys).
For the vast majority of heterosexual men, the less a woman wears, the sexier he might find her to be. A lot of heterosexual men feel this way, as which when women go 'why are women hypersexualized', men go '... there are a ton of dudes with their shirts off'.
Ok. So... how would you guys design a man to make him hypersexualized? I don't think a bouncing bulge would really do it, so what will?
lol ....Daystar Clarion said:
glad you said that, cause there's no way i could say that with out breaking into laughter.
cause you know this is what people are talking about when they talk about 'moving the industry forward'
It's less about hypersexualization and more about objectification. The super-sexy buxom girls fighting in heels is a male power fantasy. The shirtless ripping-muscle brawny dudes is... also a male powerfantasy. Guys want both; it's not female service as it is a different kind of male fanservice.ObsidianJones said:
For female fanservice? I don't know, it depends on the lady. But rippling beefcake isn't necessarily it.
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Thing is, for every time I hear someone--ears bleeding, throat hoarse--bring themselves to repeat that, I do hear of someone who's attracted to men who finds the penis, the crotch bulge, and the swingin' cod to be erotic fixtures. Granted, there are more people who find erection sexy than flaccid junk, but there are people perfectly into both.Paragon Fury said:
It's an interestingly divisive issue. One lady will say, "Dick doesn't matter. I can look at penises all day and not really give a shit. Muscles, maybe. Buttocks, sure. Penis? Meh."
Another won't be able to get that sentence out because she'll be too busy looking at penises.
Which I'm fully aware. I haven't even touched the Team Ninja or even the DOA part of it.John Funk said:
I simply feel it's much easier to give those who like the female form fanservice. Low-cut shirts and jiggle jiggle. But I'd like to know how to create females-who-are-attracted-to-males fanservice.
Captcha: Have an inkling.
you know what? Captcha becoming sentient, I can almost accept. The purposefully spooky font just doesn't have to occur.
And for the record, Captcha, I really don't have an inkling. I don't know what women would consider fanservice.
The problem with obsessive sexualization of women isn't in a single game. The problem is that every damn game with a mammary somewhere in it has to be bloated to grotesque proportions. If your average shooter contained realistically proportioned gals, then DOA could do their thing and earn praise for its open, unashamed, refreshing sex appeal. Fantasies arn't bad. But with the average bosom ceasing to bear any resemblance to human biology, it ceases to be appealing. Nowadays, the hottest female characters, even before factoring in non shallow traits like personality, have comparatively tiny breasts.
Of course, you can't put the weight of the entire industry on one set of shoulders. And frankly, Team Ninja called dibs on the world of boob love long ago, and I don't want to dismiss there obvious greatest love. I want more reasonable titties sure, but Team Ninja seems like the last place to look.
Can I suggest starting with Soul Calibur? Honestly Kasumi would look better with some breast reduction surgery, sure, but she does still look very aestetically appealing. But Ivy these days is creepier then Voldo, and shes about a cup size away from being a Silent Hill monster. If games cut back a bit on the boobs then 14 year old boys will quickly not even notice the difference, and I won't vomit a little in my mouth every time a females chest looks like an exotic parasite victims picture in an obscure medical journal.
Of course, you can't put the weight of the entire industry on one set of shoulders. And frankly, Team Ninja called dibs on the world of boob love long ago, and I don't want to dismiss there obvious greatest love. I want more reasonable titties sure, but Team Ninja seems like the last place to look.
Can I suggest starting with Soul Calibur? Honestly Kasumi would look better with some breast reduction surgery, sure, but she does still look very aestetically appealing. But Ivy these days is creepier then Voldo, and shes about a cup size away from being a Silent Hill monster. If games cut back a bit on the boobs then 14 year old boys will quickly not even notice the difference, and I won't vomit a little in my mouth every time a females chest looks like an exotic parasite victims picture in an obscure medical journal.
Also, I totally said this was for the ladies. Bad form for answering*ObsidianJones said:
*this is the Obsidian Jones' attempt at this 'humor' thing he keeps hearing about. Would appreciate feedback on how he's done.
You know... I don't get why they don't have the guts to just flat out have them go nude, or at best an option to have them nude.
I'm not gonna lie. I love tits. I have no problem with this. It's not trying to be something it's not. It's just lots of kick ass and fanservice. If some devs wanna make a game like this to cater to women or gay guys, be my guest. Just bring on the boobs.
I'm thinking that this article was really put out just to see how many different words for "boobs" could be fit into a single article.
An admirable attempt Mr. Funk. But I shall beat it!
Now onto the sweater-meat of the matter. Team Ninja's practically famous at this pointies for their gratuitous use of baby-feeders. It's their thingamabobs, and nobody's gonna change it now. And even if you don't approve, you have to admire the amount of effort they put into making their melon physics as accurate as humanly possible, or at least as accurate as they would be if those boobs could actually exist in this world.
And as mammary serves, the first DOA game was actually influential beyond the physics of its jumping jigglypuffs, it's just that's what caught the public's eye and that's how it started marketing itself.
Although, with today's highmounded society, it is easy to see how something like DOA could be viewed as little more than crass exploitation (much like this post), a relic of by-gone era, breast left buried in the sands of time.
And uh... that's all I got for boob puns.
In seriousness: I don't think DOA is going to be changing its strategy any time soon, however we might feel about it, it's entire identitty is based in boobs, and if it got rid of them we'd be left with just another fighting game. Even if it is probably the closest thing gaming has to an exploitation film, or possibly not given that a lot of other games out there are like that too.
The only consolation that can be given for that is to hope that maybe someday a developer will make a wang-centric fighting game, with properly fine tuned dick-jiggling physics and shlongs that are as cartoonishly huge as the boobs in DOA are. Not sure it'll happenis though, it's an lead-pipe dream at best, or is it an iron-rod dream? But, if anythingamajig it'd be a chance to level the playing field, and right the dongs that DOA hath wrought. Plus it'd just be pretty damn amusing, to play as a bunch of nearly naked guys with huge flopping dongs, beating the hell out of each other. I'd lay down 60 bucks for that.
An admirable attempt Mr. Funk. But I shall beat it!
Now onto the sweater-meat of the matter. Team Ninja's practically famous at this pointies for their gratuitous use of baby-feeders. It's their thingamabobs, and nobody's gonna change it now. And even if you don't approve, you have to admire the amount of effort they put into making their melon physics as accurate as humanly possible, or at least as accurate as they would be if those boobs could actually exist in this world.
And as mammary serves, the first DOA game was actually influential beyond the physics of its jumping jigglypuffs, it's just that's what caught the public's eye and that's how it started marketing itself.
Although, with today's highmounded society, it is easy to see how something like DOA could be viewed as little more than crass exploitation (much like this post), a relic of by-gone era, breast left buried in the sands of time.
And uh... that's all I got for boob puns.
In seriousness: I don't think DOA is going to be changing its strategy any time soon, however we might feel about it, it's entire identitty is based in boobs, and if it got rid of them we'd be left with just another fighting game. Even if it is probably the closest thing gaming has to an exploitation film, or possibly not given that a lot of other games out there are like that too.
The only consolation that can be given for that is to hope that maybe someday a developer will make a wang-centric fighting game, with properly fine tuned dick-jiggling physics and shlongs that are as cartoonishly huge as the boobs in DOA are. Not sure it'll happenis though, it's an lead-pipe dream at best, or is it an iron-rod dream? But, if anythingamajig it'd be a chance to level the playing field, and right the dongs that DOA hath wrought. Plus it'd just be pretty damn amusing, to play as a bunch of nearly naked guys with huge flopping dongs, beating the hell out of each other. I'd lay down 60 bucks for that.
Well, at least the characters don't look like plastic dolls anymore. There's progress in that if nothing else.
Thank you. This is pretty much where I stand on the issue... to a point. I'd also like to see more realistic movements of hair, clothing and flesh other than T&A now that we've got skeletal animations down-pat.Xanadu84 said:
But then, I doubt TN is going for realistic movement even in their favorite subject. Probably just more exaggerations.
Also, I think Soul Calibur is beyond help now. They've only gotten progressively more ridiculous since Soul Edge/Blade, and it hit critical mass in SC4.