Could the United States be invaded?

Bulletinmybrain

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A010110100101102 said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
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too few soldiers(not in training) in U.S., not including Retired military members.

You want to know why? Because the public disagrees with the peace-keeping being done.

They could easily get millions upon millions of soldiers to sign up if they wanted through propaganda.
i agree with you on that all i was saying was that there wouldn't be enough soldiers here to stop the invasion, with how many people are in the U.S. military currently.

Hehe. You still missed the point though, if we were painted as an enemy by everyone else, there would likely be 50 million applicants to bolster the already. Hell, we painted a few countries as evil and we went from 700,000 troops to a little over 12 million.

It is very costly to operate a huge standing army, which is why the army is currently low.
 

sallene

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As it was said earlier.

Any country can be invaded, now holding onto the terratory you gain in that initial invasion is an entirely different thing.


The US from any other country's perspective would be a hell to keep. With the exception of few other areas in the world the US would be so inundated with "insurgants" that any country/countries that did invade would quickly find that the invasion was the "easy" part and that occupying is far more difficult(much like the US is finding out now)

I can name 12 people who are friends who I am close with. out of those 12 nine of them have at least 3 guns each and the other 3 have at least one.

Not to mention the fact that there is historical precedent that we here in the US go batshit psycho insane whenever our authority or safety is challenged.


So yes, the US can be invaded.


Whether or not the invaders would deem it worth it after the initial invasion is another thing entirely.
 

ElephantGuts

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Maybe, but it wouldn't last long.

I'm not an overly-patriotic pro-America extremist or anything, but in all seriousness I can say that there is no country in existence currently capable of defeating the US armed forces in conventional warfare.

Maybe if every country in the world teamed up against them (well all the world's military powers atleast) they might be able to overwhelm the US, but since that is highly unlikely I would not suggest to anyone a conventional war against the US.
 

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Bulletinmybrain said:
A010110100101102 said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
A010110100101102 said:
too few soldiers(not in training) in U.S., not including Retired military members.

You want to know why? Because the public disagrees with the peace-keeping being done.

They could easily get millions upon millions of soldiers to sign up if they wanted through propaganda.
i agree with you on that all i was saying was that there wouldn't be enough soldiers here to stop the invasion, with how many people are in the U.S. military currently.

Hehe. You still missed the point though, if we were painted as an enemy by everyone else, there would likely be 50 million applicants to bolster the already. Hell, we painted a few countries as evil and we went from 700,000 troops to a little over 12 million.

It is very costly to operate a huge standing army, which is why the army is currently low.
i was thinking from a different perspective, yeah your right.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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ElephantGuts said:
Maybe, but it wouldn't last long.

I'm not an overly-patriotic pro-America extremist or anything, but in all seriousness I can say that there is no country in existence currently capable of defeating the US armed forces in conventional warfare.

Maybe if every country in the world teamed up against them (well all the world's military powers atleast) they might be able to overwhelm the US, but since that is highly unlikely I would not suggest to anyone a conventional war against the US.
Plus, I do believe they have military bases all over the world. If I am right, a super carrier has moved over to japan with the russians practically being our best friend.

Beaten to the punch, there supposedly about 750 military bases outside of the u.s.
 

Panzer_God

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No, they could destroy us but the only way we could be invaded is by a joint NATO/Chinese venture.
 

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Psychosocial said:
Well, I'll do it the way my ancestors did!

With longboats and axes!

Seriously, the vikings were in America too, y'know.
Idd :) hail the frozen wastes, brother! lets show them what scandinavian vikings and death metal are made of >:D
 

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Macksheath said:
Yes. When the White House hold a meeting of the mayor figures of America, bomb the place they meet at. Simple.

But the UK would be beaten with ease; simply set up a blockade.
The problem is, the American Leaders are the people you want in charge in a war time because they suck at crisis management.
 

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needausername said:
Go down through Canada, up throw Mexico. Squeeze in via Navy from the sides, and fly over head with RAF etc. It would be easier the UK me thinks, but still a daunting task.
I hate to tell you this but, the US Navy is the largest in the world. In fact, it's actually larger than the combined Navies of the rest of the world. Well, at least in terms of carriers. Ours are bigger too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces

The US has contingency plans for the five most likely invaders, but combined it could still be done. It would have to start with a lot of subtlety.

Sparrow Tag said:
I have a theory, that if we blew one nuke in America, it would cause a chain reaction.

IT COULD TOTALLY WORK.
Only on the areas where you actually get the weapons to go off. We don't really keep them in a bunch of lines all the way across the country. It prevents chain reactions like that. Provided that they all broke, well, Chernobyl would look like a picnic ground compared to some of those areas.

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Even though the US's army is on the other side of the globe, the country is still full of red-necks who have at least five guns in their homes. (Joking)(Maybe a little bit true, but still a joke).
You're close. Of a population of 300 million, there are enough legal firearms to be distributed to them based on already owned guns for 90% of the population. At least it was a few months ago.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2834893820070828

Sorry about the quotes.
 

sooperman

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Well I'm sure it's possible, but it would be quite the chore. What with the current state of the economy, I don't think the citizens would respond very well to a foreign nation(s) trying to take the place over. And they all have guns, so that would get difficult.

Cpt_Oblivious said:
If the rest of the world?
Fuck that We'll send in the SAS and you'll be taken over before you know it.
I don't mean to flame your armed forces, good as they may be, but from what I understand, the SAS are trained to invade countries but not take them over. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the SAS are going to sneak into the White House, kill the president, and fill in for him without anyone noticing. Also, there aren't enough SAS to launch a behind-the-scenes battle, either.
 

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TikiShades said:
Yeah, but I'd love to see anyone try. Even though we're in an econimic pit, we still have more money than almost anyone. Meaning more money for military. And if we had the mind to, we could make sure no one who stepped aggressively on out soil lived to tell the tale.
Well I'm not sure, isn't the US in massive debt, which is why they have to continually invade countries for oil to try and make good on the promises of 'future oil' that so much of their economy is made on?

Also how do you assume that you could kill anyone who was on US soil if the whole world was against them? I smell a little bit of jingoism here.
 

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The US would just send all their armed forces to the border and are more than capable of with standing an assualt from Mexico and Canada. As for an invasion by sea, well that's impossible; we have aircraft carriers, Raptors, and of course the near invincible B2 and F-11. Sure the US would be massively outnumbered, but most countries couldn't even get in the US. The only category where the US is not #1 as far as a military tech goes, is the best tank; which is the Leopard, The US's is a close second.

If the world were to throw everything they could at the US, all their armed forces would be destroyed and then the US would essentially control the world. The US is the only country that can afford 1.2 billion dollars on a single aircraft(B2) let alone 26.
 

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sooperman said:
Well I'm sure it's possible, but it would be quite the chore. What with the current state of the economy, I don't think the citizens would respond very well to a foreign nation(s) trying to take the place over. And they all have guns, so that would get difficult.

Cpt_Oblivious said:
If the rest of the world?
Fuck that We'll send in the SAS and you'll be taken over before you know it.
I don't mean to flame your armed forces, good as they may be, but from what I understand, the SAS are trained to invade countries but not take them over. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the SAS are going to sneak into the White House, kill the president, and fill in for him without anyone noticing. Also, there aren't enough SAS to launch a behind-the-scenes battle, either.
Didn't you know. One SAS regiment is supposedly able to take over the average-szed country. And not a 3rd world one, a developed country.
 

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george144 said:
So inspired by the can England be Invaded thread, I thought I'd do a similar one but replace the country in question with the US, if the rest of the world banded together without the aid of nuclear arms would they be able to successfully invade and hold the US?
Yes, but it would take most of the rest of the world to do it.

The only reason is because one nation has enough transports, but not enough troops.
Another has troops, but no transport.

And while they wouldn't use nukes, I can promise you if the US was about to fall and the nukes hadn't been taken yet we would launch every one of them.

Blackhol said:
th US army is on the other side of the globe, so ya i think so.
You seem to be forgetting that the US populace is better armed than most militaries.
 

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Oh, it's possible, but I dunno about successful.

The main areas people are talking about invading from are pro-2nd Amendment regions. And many of the states, notably Michigan, have well organized militias.